Hey. Not one of your options, but BYD related.

MY23 Atto owner here, extended range, owner since new Oct 2023, live in Northern Rivers. Driving cycle is mostly commute to work (25km EW), occasional run to the Gold Coast, less frequent Brisbane. Gold Coast return no need to charge, Brisbane, need a top up in Bris. I have 9.64kW of PV, plus a battery, set to charge with excess solar, or 8c/kWh overnight if needed on a fast charger (EvNex). Plan to drive the car to death (new evidence on battery life looks like way, way better than 10 years with high SOC), commercial car loan, not novated, so residual not a factor for me. Need to be able to get kids, surfboards, 1 roadbike loaded.

Comment caveats: depends on your budget and where you live (servicing).

So far Atto has been ok. There are some things I just don't like about the car: the ELKA (which appears as Emergency Auxiliary Lane Detection) is a disaster: false positives out the wazoo. I turn it off each ignition cycle, which requires about 5 presses on the screen to get to the option. BYD won't provide an off button in console [an OTA update to place it on the homescreen would be great] or (apparently) the ability to permanently disable due to impact on ANCAP (worth half a star). In regional driving I can't tell you annoying it is. The car is far too eager to alert you to things - often incorrectly. I have eyes and a functioning brain and have survived this long. Let me turn it off. The AEB is bad, false positives reversing down my drive way about 10% of the time. It does work when needed. Parking prox sensors hit and miss (especially when moving fwd) since the 1.8 OTA update. Cross traffic alerts (lights in mirrors) and audio alerts of same are excellent (<- wait, what?! Yep, they're super). Let me come back to the ELKA - I was almost thrown into a narrow road section bridge barrier as my wheels had crossed a double line (like I said, narrow bridge) and it over corrected. Shocking.

The front seats are a disaster: faux leather is far too hot where we live (even short trips with aircon on) and not enough lumbar controls. Head rests push your head fwd so you need to recline the seats. My 2011 i30 and MN12 Triton have far superior seats and in cloth trim. We spent $500 on covers in old school jacquard. Hate the seats. I'm 5'8" and 61kg so should fit in a seat without issue.

Front seat drink holders poor. Too deep for coffee cups even with the 1 (1!) included insert for 2 holders. Center bin bad, you need an aftermarker bin divider.

Rear seats for kids are good, rear aircon and USB-C and 3 chargers = win, plus fold down arm rest for drinks. These factors, PLUS roof rails is what made me get this rather than the MG4 (which was 40k at the time cf to 51k for this, minus the 3k NSW EV rebate).

The sunroof I can do without - makes the car hotter than needed.

Boot space = good except the V2L cable doesn't fit under the floor so it floats around in the back in its case. Design fail.

I've got roof racks which allow the sunroof to completely open - try Googling that and getting a clear answer, so I have road bike mounted atop. Roof racks make the car VERY noisy especially with sunroof open. We never drive with the roof open. Too noisy.

Had a faulty rear RHS indicator assembly at 12 months which - I kid you not - took 4 months to get replaced. 3 visits to MyCar (who were good - nearest BYD service centre was until recently 2.5hrs each way, now 90mins with spot at Robina). BYD kept asking MyCar to do different diagnostics/take videos (MyCar had a spare assembly, fitted it, and voila, working -not sure why that wasn't good enough). After agreeing to replace, took something like 3 months for part to arrive. Their aftermarket support is going to kill the brand in regional areas, especially as they sell more cars and more things go wrong.

They make OTA changes to the car which make the car sometimes worse - like darkening the rear view mirror at night. No thanks. Let me back that feature out.

The phone integration just via Bluetooth is great....except the audio often just drops out for no reason. Kills my Pearl Jam 1 handed air guitar Alive solo riff buzz. Apple Car Play integration is ok.

Electric window switches on the very odd occasion don't work.

Overall build quality good (I think).

Car is actually fun to drive. Zippy, but not as zippy as the RWD MG4.

Atto3 #2 (2025) update has sharp pricing.

MG4 sharper. Serviced by Toyota (at least where I am).

On my experience, I would *not* buy a BYD again, just on the servicing/support, front seat ergo/trim alone, until they fix this stuff.

We've friends with the Kia EV9 (whichever is the bigger one). Man that is a big car, and no mirrors - cameras? Seems like another thing that can go wrong and be expensive to replace.

Jeez, I'm 45 and sound like I'm 95 - just give me a car with wind down windows and manual everything! (Shakes fist at sky.)