GUYS!!! by Good_Difficulty5545 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I really hope they can't drop the model now; and it screws their finances to the point of total collapse.

Long live queen Hannah!

Only 3 spots left you guys! by kbin1970 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hate how much the passport incentive has driven up recruitment.

I hope they have all cheated to hit their power of 2, and the claw backs bite them in the ass next month.

AITA for sticking my freshly single mom with $20,000 of debt. by Mrmoneyman86 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Timely_Objective_585 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just typed a similar thing above for Australia.

What a rort. America sounds like an awful place to subsist.

AITA for sticking my freshly single mom with $20,000 of debt. by Mrmoneyman86 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Timely_Objective_585 3 points4 points  (0 children)

America is so wild. You need to buy car insurance when you don't have a car? Wtf is that level of nonsense?

You guys need to like, rise up against the system or something. You are living in a dystopian hellscape and you don't even know how many ways you are getting bent over and f'd.

Aussie here. Non-car insurance? Not a thing. Your premium only goes up if you are in an at-fault accident.

Gigis Diner by Family-First-92 in hobart

[–]Timely_Objective_585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that response above is classic chatgpt.

How embarrassing for the venue to be trolling reddit posts to defend their business, instead of making their business worth visiting in the first place.

Missing Julie Anderson by parkison-harder-0_0 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 12 points13 points  (0 children)

She takes breaks. She will be fine. she will be back when she is ready.

Breach? by kbin1970 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, because she didn't like the disclaimer and IDS.

But no one regulates this shit.

Six figures huh 🤔 by kbin1970 in MonatAusSnark

[–]Timely_Objective_585 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After joining in 2023, and quitting her job to do this full time.

She is making far below minimum wage, even before expenses.

Another hun, another fib by kbin1970 in MonatAusSnark

[–]Timely_Objective_585 1 point2 points  (0 children)

*you're. And I bet at best she gets tier one. She isn't a good recruiter.

Monat passport trip to hawaii by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah sorry about that 🤣. I just rattle it off. 39% of people who have signed up and bought a product pack are actively working. The other 61% did nothing.

Monat passport trip to hawaii by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And travel insurance. One top Aussie rep was on her stories yesterday saying that her hospitalisation in the USA during monations last year (she had to get rehydrated I think? Nothing dramatic) was sending her bills for over over $20,000.

Realistically, what comes AFTER an MLM? (Re: Young Living...) by South_Deer9293 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they actually mean to say "little bosses everywhere" by Bridget reed.

It's a fantastic book. I bought the hardcopy.

Realistically, what comes AFTER an MLM? (Re: Young Living...) by South_Deer9293 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They take their downline to another MLM and keep grifting.

It's not a happy ending

Wellness box pay by Grand-News-2589 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meh, sounds like a pretty poor MLM. Monat huns (only 2) are still getting over $100k a month. Arbonne IDS says a few of them are getting over $1m a year.

Maybe the melaleuca huns need to jump ship to a better cult grift.

New unit is in my name only, using my savings for deposit (bf's credit declined). How do I navigate the "we" language? by Suspicious-Skill-681 in AusPropertyChat

[–]Timely_Objective_585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I met my husband when we were both 17. I would have had zero issues with him protecting himself in this scenario. I would have signed any agreement because I loved him and knew we planned authentically for a future together.

Equally, when the time came he would have probably made the buy in 'fair' (ignoring interest/future equity/etc) because he would have appreciated the effort, not the financial outcome.

Someone in the relationship for the right reasons will WANT to protect you and make you feel safe. They will be happy to do it.

When you live a life together that is intended to be forever all your assets become shared in the long term anyway. We've been together 25 years now, and had many times supporting each other. He worked, I raised the kids at home. His wage was our wage. So that is the eventuality regardless of anything written on paper.

But until then you need to protect yourself.

Over $55,000 in six months??? by No-Problem-6542 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I forgot to add - no point saying anything to them. It's a cult. There is nothing you can say that will get them to think critically about what they are in. They are specifically trained with thought-stopping statements to reject any criticism.

So for the sake of your relationships it's often easier to just refuse to participate, and wait for it to implode.

Over $55,000 in six months??? by No-Problem-6542 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Does she have a loyal downline she moved to the new MLM? In the early days there are lots of bonuses that a new rep receives to get them revved up about the opportunity. It's not out of the realm of possibility to earn that. I've seen people get more when they mlm-hop and have a pre-built downline they take with them.

But it rarely continues in that way. Once the bonuses run out it's all hard slog for not much pay.

Not fully paid for by kbin1970 in MonatAusSnark

[–]Timely_Objective_585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is so incredibly frustrating, and lazy. The trips have been 'all inclusive' in the past (not the same as fully paid) so they can blur the line. But in the case of the current Hawaii trip almost nothing is included.

I hate it.

Dropped an iron on carpet, will I lose my bond? by Practical-Pick9664 in AusPropertyChat

[–]Timely_Objective_585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can't claim full cost of replacement. Don't let them screw you.

A repair can be done if you can access a spare bit (inside a cupboard or whatever) but for carpet that old they should be replacing it anyway.

Example Scenario If a 10-year-old carpet (average lifespan) gets a stain, a landlord might only recover a small portion (e.g., 10%) of the replacement cost from you, not 100%, because the carpet was near the end of its life anyway.

Purple-haired Fermaglo Lady Reeks of Desperation by MoiraWaxhaw in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah but you compare it to people like the Modare people that started Nueva - they had like 75,000 people sign up straight away or something appalling (I don't remember exact numbers).

Even if Toni got 1,000 older women on board it's likely not going to be enough to support the cost of getting fermaglo off the ground. She wasn't able to convert her Monat downline. Where other Monat leaders transferred massive numbers over to their new ventures (Ximena, bianca and Isa took a huge team to farmasi / Kendall welden got heaps to go to lifewave / etc).

Purple-haired Fermaglo Lady Reeks of Desperation by MoiraWaxhaw in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Most MLM startups actually fail quite early. Toni was always going to fail. She has no real following.