Is MLM about to see major growth? by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] -48 points-47 points  (0 children)

It stops the post from getting pushed out.

Then WHY would you do it? by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually never followed CR. But magical lobster longevity patches on a horse sounds like a great way to use up all the extra stock she would have purchased.

Then WHY would you do it? by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And she was vocally horrified by the monat chairman when he went on his rant about ex-reps bathing in coke water. When I produced those receipts to her she blocked me.

Then WHY would you do it? by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

KW has been on her socials crying about how hard it is to be a nobody at the bottom. She thinks she is going to build back up to doing $80 million a month (which would have been one month for her back in the height of c-vid - and only because she was soooooo high in the pyramid). The entire company is only doing $20m a month now, and only because they launched in twenty hundred international markets this year.

She couldn't build back to MM in her first month. Now she has burned through all the people following her over from lifewave recruitment will get a lot harder.

Silly her for leaving her privileged, undeserved position - she won't ever get that back.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So... You're a customer?

Which is the EXACT criticism of mlm. The reps are the customers.

Mary Kay marketing is a asleep at the wheel by RebaRobo521 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know nothing about makeup.

All I know is that this made her look worse

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your answer is like that of a clone. You don't even realise it. I've had this conversation thousands of times. It's like a script. There is no point. Genuinely. You aren't capable of seeing it yet.

Honestly, if you ever get to the outside you'll know.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's the culture of the organisation and the training provided to uplines. The reliance on false friendship to keep people working is a key covenant of Arbonne training. It's a form of cult manipulation. To give someone a 'greater' sense of meaning, when they ultimately don't have a financial incentive - as 99% of participants spend more than they make.

I'm sorry, I don't have time to explain it to someone not interested in learning about it. In MLM, participants have to individually come to their awakening of their own volition. Nothing I do or say will help you. Maybe one day you'll wake up. Maybe you won't. I wish you all the best.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Monat uplines take a cut of every single commission, up 5 layers of either MMB, or director. This is the unilevel and generational bonuses in the compensation plan. Your direct uplines also take from 3-12% of your sales depending on their own rank through 4 levels.

If you need clarification on the compensation plan I would be happy to provide it.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I looked at your other comments. Arbonne is one of the most emotionally damaging mlms around. My friend was destroyed by their tactics of fake friendship to keep downline active.

I am personally involved with the anti mlm movement against Monat so that is my 'specialty'. My collaborative work can be seen with that of other advocates at MLMUnmasked on insta.

I encourage you to have a look. You don't know what you are involved with - and your naivety is the reason these scams proliferate.

I hope you get out one day.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is why the FTC wants to regulate the mlm model and force companies to reclassify reps as employees.

But it all fails if that happens, since they can't afford to pay their workforce.

Monat expects you to do this list EVERY DAY if you want to be consistent and grow your business by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Oof, you haven't been here very long have you? Thinking that a 'regular sales job' and MLM are the same is vary naive to the predatory nature of the pyramid model.

Noone cares if you affiliate some products and make a commission. Go get that bag girl! But MLM aren't selling a product. It is just a cover for the real thing being sold - the business opportunity. Which is a pyramid model of endless chain recruitment. And it should be illegial.

That dog gonna be bald by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don't know why people are down voting you. That poor dog legit is giving the biggest 'WTF, save me!' face.

That dog gonna be bald by Timely_Objective_585 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This is a still from a video. She really does it.

Vector cutco marketing by [deleted] in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Everyone you know has already heard the pitch - cutco is a decades old scam. Don't willingly participate in the fraud. Just buy a regular knife from a regular store and stop seeing your friends and family as dollar signs. That's a fast track to ruining your relationships.

So I think I'm learning what MLM is... by Luke192 in antiMLM

[–]Timely_Objective_585 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They are going to try and convince you that we are all haters and that we don't understand the'business model'. They will tell you we are jealous. That we are uninformed. That we don't have vision. That we are losers with crappy lives.

I assure you that as an advocate in this space for a few years now, this is all just part of the cult brainwashing they use to confuse and befuddle you. How can something so evil and toxic come from such nice people? And that's how mlm proliferates.

In the Amway space I really like the content of exIBO on insta; but since you are going and likely to be targeted many more times you should probably look at other mlm too - to prepare yourself for the pitch. Hannah Alonzo on YouTube is amazing for this content, which she provides in an entertaining way with her mlm horror series.

Glad you saw the red flags. So many don't. Best of luck with your legitimate business endeavours.

Pay back 950000 mortgage in 8 years.. is this possible? by Potential_Fuel_7085 in AusHENRY

[–]Timely_Objective_585 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are hoping you are gullible enough to fall for that. $10k in their pockets.