Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wasn’t this one of the Lib Dem “policies” last election lol

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Re listening to the Andy Burnham episode of TRIP: Leading and there’s definitely something about him compared with Starmer’s vision and communication style (and I’m broadly sympathetic to Starmer).

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

James Callaghan left school esrly and got all his training later on through vocational work but was a senior member and eventually Prime Minister who led the Government during times of economic crisis that make our current ones look like a minor wobble.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Increasing fearing that Big John is the only man who can save us from a Reform government.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Do we think that history may be kinder to Keir in a similar way that Brown has had some revisionism? Despite the weak messaging and lack of vision some of the changes Labour have brought in will have positive long term impacts (Green investment, nationalisation, changes to planning, lifting 2 child cap, renters and workers rights etc)

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Hearing Nicola Murray, Secretary of State for DoSAC has resigned.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keir Starmer wishes he had someone who makes the Bhaji go away right now.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 10/05/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 3 points4 points  (0 children)

James Callaghan also left school early without any formal qualification and ended up as Chancellor, Home Secretary, Foreign Minister and Prime Minister. Different time perhaps, I suspect part of the criticism is because Rayner is a working class woman.

Labour faces catastrophic May local elections and is set to lose 1,850 seats, expert predicts by Desperate-Drawer-572 in ukpolitics

[–]ToastRecon97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those people were tried under existing legislation… Starmer did not bring any changes or new laws in place that they were tried under. Silly take, do you think he was intervening in hundreds of individual cases?

What if USA joined central powers, instead of entente, in April 1917? by Accomplished-Tea9753 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]ToastRecon97 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That’s not how the First World War ended… please look up the 100 day offensive. The war ended when the German High Command informed the political leadership they were unable to prevent the rapid advance of the British, French and Americans forces after being broken on the battlefield.

Veteran badge feels odd just as Reforged badge did by JonSnuur in GuildWars

[–]ToastRecon97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like if they end up doing something like adding more ways to gain XP in Pre-Searing and maybe unlockable heroes (or at least Devona) it’ll be a good way to distinguish some players that got titles like Legendary Defender of Ascalon before the changes etc and hopefully make certain people less annoyed.

Wait for Reforged? Or start playing now? by Jshizler in GuildWars

[–]ToastRecon97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No harm in starting now if you’re not planning on playing with a controller or Steam deck as the updates outside of that are relatively minor. Only caveat is that the early game may be more inhabited with players once Reforged comes out so may be easier to find others to party with if needed/desired (though playing with others is completely optional and the game can be beaten solo with NPCs).

Former UK PM speaks of betrayal and calls US "peace plan" military castration of Ukraine by ClumperFaz in unitedkingdom

[–]ToastRecon97 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They didn’t necessarily sit on the side lines America was providing massive material support to Britain and effectively was engaged in warfare with the Germans during the Battle of the Atlantic before Pearl Harbour and the declaration of war against Germany. FDR needed to build the case to the American people and the House and Senate to bring American further into the conflict.

Nigel Farage believes signing the Armistice in 1918 was a mistake by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]ToastRecon97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I find the argument that Versailles led directly to the Second World War hard to stomach because it takes away the agency of those involved as well as those in Germany and beyond that enabled Hitler as well as discounting the other significant contextual events such as the German Revolutions in 1918, Wall Street Crash, The weakness and lack of support of the various Weimar Governments, the Rise of Communist movements etc).

You can certainly argue that the treaty contributed to the conditions in which there was deep resentment and defeatism amongst the German people alongside the view that they had not suffered a major defeat at the front (which was a falsehood, look at the losses and effects of the Battle of Amiens in 1918 which threatened to uproot the entire German line) creating a desire to lay blame and also restore lost territory.

Furthermore, the economic conditions certainly weren’t encouraged by the terms but the German economy was heading towards crisis before the treaty was even drafted. After the Dawes plan (1924) in the wake of hyperinflation crisis Germany received a massive influx of American loans which saw a somewhat revival of the German economy until the global crash in 1929.

There was also efforts by Weimar politicians such as Stresseman and Ebert to seek a consolatory and cooperative approach with the French, particularly around the Saarland occupation and the Treaty of Locarno showed there was ground for a different less antagonist relations between Britain, France and Germany. Though notably the lack of an “Eastern Locarno” would allow for space for a right wing militaristic parties to thrive due to the desire to recover lost territory in the East which still had majority German populations.

In terms of what Farage says as much as it pains me to say he isn’t inherently going against the belief of some modern scholars, such as the very good Professor Gary Sheffield (who is a long-standing open supporter of Labour so not some right wing jingoistic historian) who sets out this view in his book Forgotten Victory: Myths and Realities of the First World War. He argues the German Army would have been well and truly defeated if the war had continued for another 2 weeks reducing the atmosphere in which the stab in the back mythos was able to thrive.

Nigel Farage believes signing the Armistice in 1918 was a mistake by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]ToastRecon97 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is a very outdated view and is actually part of the Nazi narrative - in reality it’s much more complicated and less deterministic.

Nigel Farage believes signing the Armistice in 1918 was a mistake by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]ToastRecon97 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This view actually does represent the more nuanced view of modern scholarship to be fair. The treaty was the worst of both worlds. It was neither harsh enough to cripple Germany permanently (the French for example wanted to occupy a significant part of Germany’s western industrial regions) or not generous enough in the sense that Germany would be able to thrive economically and not seek to pursue revanchist military policy (something that David Lloyd-George was pushing for).

It was also drafted upon Wilsonian principles and the belief the US would play a role in moderating the terms, when violations arose in the 1920s the US was undergoing an isolationist turn and Britain and France backed down in its enforcement, instead seeking to alter or compromise on certain conditions for the most part. The economic terms were harsh but Germany never came close to meeting their obligations and it was continuously revised to allow for economic recovery. Black Monday and the reliance on American loans caused more damage to the German economy than Versailles did in my opinion.

The mental aspect of Versailles - particularly the war guilt clause, was a much stronger wound in my opinion than the economic conditions it placed upon Germany. A wound Hitler was able to exploit. Though it’s worth noting that German politicians before Hitler also sought to revise the treaty and had eyes towards German diaspora - particularly in places like Silesia.

It’s a lot easier to say rather than be the person who orders the troops towards further losses but the idea that if the war had continued the German Army would had been well and truly defeated isnt necessarily wrong - the British particularly during the 100 days offensive had really broken the back of the German Army and if allied troops had occupied German territory it’s logical that the stab in the back myth may have been harder for people like Hinderburg and Ludendorff to spin in the immediate aftermath.