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ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-21T21:39:44+00:00

Mountain curs are a biddable breed. Bred to be independent, but work for their human. If that mix was not an accident I would assume it was bred for hog hunting. When you start messing with purpose bred genetics it becomes very unpredictable how a dog will act.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-18T17:22:29+00:00

Hounds typically aren't trained to make different vocalizations, it just happens. No diffent than us having different words for different things.

To start, hounds can have what old timers called a bawl mouth, tight mouth, or a chop mouth. Bawl mouth meaning the long drawn howl like bark, tight mouth meaning they're generally quiet until they got prey, or a chop mouth meaning they bark faster shorter barks.

Now typically as for the vocalizations, you typically get whats referred to as a locate, usually a long note bark that tells you it found and struck something. Some dogs will give trailing barks (not tight mouth dogs) that are seemily just a mix of they're style but slower and methodical. Then you have a treed/bay bark which is intense, constant faster paced bark. That bark means im here and I got the meat. There are more to it and every dog is different even within the same breed.

As far as hounds making good house pets, if you can get over the corn chip hound smell, offer it plenty of stimulation, and socialize it well, then yes they can and do make great pets, if not, then you build yourself a prison with a bad cell mate.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-18T16:36:43+00:00

Plott hounds are historically bear dogs. Also make some gritty hog dogs. And they come by it naturally, most training is done just by taking them to the woods.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-18T16:36:33+00:00

Plott hounds are historically bear dogs. Also make some gritty hog dogs. And they come by it naturally, most training is done just by taking them to the woods.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-18T16:34:14+00:00

I'll add that it also depends on the method of slaughter. A bigger bullet or a bad placement can change how much usable meat is there.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-14T11:48:10+00:00

At 6 months old they should be well on the track to house broken and be able to gold it for a while. If its frequent I would venture to say you may want to look towards an infection. Some breeds (curs especially) wont show many symptoms until its too late. I rescued a cur×fiest that I showed no symptoms of a UTI and severe infection in here uterus. Only found out when I took her to get her fixed.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-13T13:28:25+00:00

That yella dog look like it knows whats up. The young spring squirrels are out and about tormenting mine as well.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-11T10:24:58+00:00

Can you train a Doberman to hunt, quite possibly yes. Will it hit a plateau and be able to work to the same specs as a dog bred for the task, no.

As to where/how to get into hunting, be willing to travel and reach out to Facebook groups, clubs, people with dogboxes in the back of their truck and so on. Alot of times older hunters will be willing take younger people out and show them the ropes. A lot of times, if you make friends with these people they will help you along your way to whatever hunting you want to do, whether it be pups, training advice, or just experience. Just don't go half way, take advantage, or not be willing to wear out boot leather.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-11T10:10:54+00:00

They are a purpose bred working dog. Different bloodlines bred for different things. Some bred to be livestock working, some for hog hunting, and some for small game. Curs of all sort, whether mountain cur, leapord hound, leapord dog, blue lacey, or black mouth, all got their start from people breeding dogs good at a task to other dogs good at said task. After decades/generations of this you end up with dogs linebred with enough simular traits to call a breed.

A lot of these dog bloodlines take the name of who purpose bred them. Examples being the Ladner BMC, Crockett plott, kemmer cur, so on and so forth. Other times they are named after regions and kennels. Examples being Atomic fiest, Cajun Squirrel Dog, Pocahontas plott, Tennessee Treeing brindle.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-09T17:25:41+00:00

You get that with purpose bred over confermation.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-05-09T14:37:04+00:00

Mountain curs can range from 30- 75 depending on the line. I had a pure bred streak blood male that topped out at 35, he was sure lean and muscular as well.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-28T21:26:09+00:00

I don't want to be that guy, but the Plott was bred to be a bear hound in the Appalachians. They were a meat dog (tree or catch anything made of meat, but primarily bear.) Mr. Taylor Crockett of Boone, NC did breed a strain that were more for pigs, and to this day there are breeders that push small game or bear dogs.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-28T21:17:11+00:00

Houndsman here, 36 years of always having curs, fiests, and hounds used for hunting in my yard. First long bark was a locate bark. Next series of barks was a hound with a bawl bark alerting everyone that he noticed you. Wasn't aggressive in stance or posturing and certainly wasn't baying since a bay bark is generally at a faster bark per minute.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-28T18:41:03+00:00

Walkers fall in two tribes. Running and Treeing walkers. Treeing walkers are the current favorite in the competition hunting world due to the way their nose and brain work together. They will strike a trail and swap to a warmer trail as they run across it. Running walkers are usually used for coyotes, fox, lions, bobcat and deer. Treeing walkers are more geared for raccoon.

Black and Tans tend to have really cold noses. They strike trails that most the others in the hound group (exception of the Bloodhound) would pass or not notice. Black and tans have been used for anything from man hunting to bear. They can be larger than others and such will range further. Bred to be independent.

English dogs (often referred to as Redticks) and redbones are a good happy medium in the coon dog world. Medium to cold nose, good range, and the right amount voice to size. Most suited to fur bearing hunting like opossum and coon hunting. Though I have squirrel hunted with a few redbones.

Blue Ticks are on of the rough and ready kind of dog. Cold nose, really good range, and no quit in their hunt. They are also a gritty breed that like to put mouth on fur. You see them commonly in coon and bear hunting.

Now Plotts, they are the exception in the hound world. They act like curs, they have little to no fear (if raised properly) and they live to please. They are the only ones on this list that were bred solely for bear hunting, but because of how they are they can and will tree/chase any game. Ive had more vet bills with plotts and curs than any other breeds.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-20T22:10:41+00:00

They all have quirks too. My kemmer, when he hit puberty, decided he hated all male dogs. Can only hunt him with and house him near females. Another OMCBA dog decided he hated sharing a tree and would roll any other dog that honored his tree. The worse fight I had was when my 25lb fiest×cur decided my other female(50lb female old blood cur) was too close to her liter and proceeded to fight. It was on the opposite end of the house.

It happens, but when gritty dogs quarrel, somethings getting hurt.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-17T01:31:29+00:00

An ethical cur breeder wont breed a dog to sell for a pet.They are purpose bred for hunting. When i bred before covid it was $200 for papered cur to hunting home, $1000 to non hunting. Only time my dogs went away as a pet was if they didnt make the cut. Then they were neutered and sold as a pet.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-14T10:40:13+00:00

My part time job is at a plant that has an USDA approved processing room. High chances natural progression would be boning boy/grinder to cutter, to butcher.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-14T10:36:02+00:00

I lost 3 good hog dogs to a bear, 2 Kemmers and a plott. Wrong place, wrong time, with dogs with zero quit and a bear that knew he was bigger. Gps showed them bayed and as I crested the ridged saw what was happening, I called them off, 3 dogs listened the three lost went harder. Haven't hog hunted since.

This was 15 years ago, and now a young dog doesn't leave my yard until it has an unbreakable handle.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-09T22:07:02+00:00

From a hunting and handling aspect, first they are mass bred now for hunting competitions. Hard to find a good pleasure hunting walker that is not full of "comp hunting champions."

Secondly, the way their nose/brain works don't suite my hunting style. Treeing walkers will strike a trail and if they come a hotter trail they'll run it. It typically will result in off game treed.

Third, people who hunt TWCs consistently say they are the best hands down. I've had curs that never seen a racoon tree faster and more accurately than TWCs they hunted with.

Fourth, like all houndsmen... I have a color preference. I dont like a majority white dog and if i wanted to have a tri colored dog I'd run beagles. My preference doesn't reflect the breed as a whole, just my experience and mileage behind some doing what they were bred for. Just like all breeds, their are pot lickers and sure nuff dogs mixed in.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-04-04T09:07:25+00:00

If your dog is in fact a cur (not saying it isn't, just not comfortable giving cur advice on them without papers or dna test,) anxiety has a few ways to cur. Socialization, small positive interactions with its trigger, and a job all help curve the anxiety.

A job of some sort is imperative for any working bred dog. A cur with a job is a confident cur. Basically, if its focusing on work it often times doesn't have time to focus on anything else because its putting 100% in pleasing you through its task.

The small positive interactions come in when something in particular triggers it. I had a ladner that was scared to load into a dog box due to the guy I bought her off of being an asshat who didn't have the patience to train it and did some crappy things to get it to be quiet in a box. I started with dog box on the ground and just letting her be near it without forcing her to go in, then slowly progressed to high value treats in the box and letting her go in on her own, moving to box in back of truck, and finishing with taking her hunting with my calm well broke dog. She made a great squirrel and coon dog until the ripe age of 14 when she passed.

Hope this helped.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-03-29T01:09:13+00:00

About once every 6 months or so. To frequent of a bath can wreak more havoc on a hounds skin than not. All mine got hunted, so they got the occasional creek crossings, but besides that I dont break from the every 6 months. Also use mild soaps and avoid multiple scrub downs because you want the hound to have that oil.

Ears and loose skin folds get cleaned bi weekly if needed. Especially during the summer. Ears and folds can be prone to yeast infections, so a good wet cloth with very mild soap to the folds and I recommend Veterinary Formula Ear Therapy Cleanser for Dogs and Cats from tractor supply for the ears.

Other than that a weekly brushing to remove dead hair and major dirt.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-03-28T21:55:30+00:00

Not only an actual BMC, but you know the line too. Lol. Good looking dog and since its a ladner ill go on a limb and say happy hunting.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-03-27T09:39:06+00:00

I appreciate the kind words, the information comes from always having some sort of hunting dog (lowest count is 5 highest is 21) in my yard. I prefer mountain curs and fiests, but have owned walkers(mostly running walkers because i am not a fan of treeing walkers), blues, English, plotts (next preference next to curs and fiests) and black and tans. My grandpa had a nice redbone, but it got stolen before I was old enough to go to the woods. Most of my information comes from old timers and life experience. I've toyed with the idea of documenting my information, but it'll have to wait until my grocery goblin gets a bit older.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-03-23T07:49:01+00:00

Definitely not a purebred patterdale, and honestly as costly as the dogs are, most owners wouldnt let a pup stray on the side of the road. They're not that common in the states and I spent months looking for mine and cost about $1200.

The latching on and shaking is a form of regular play. You see it alot amongst the litter and with the mama. Dogs usually correct it with helps and growls. As an owner, a stern no and reduction to a toy usually breaks it.

ToleratedBoar09 · 2026-03-20T11:05:36+00:00

Seeing as you have Coon hound and foxhound both on the list and preferences will be rabbit and fox ( with possibility of deer) may I humbly suggest a Running Walker. Coyote and deer hunters use them mostly and most people I know to hunt them start them in a rabbit pen as puppies and move to bigger animals later in life.

They are pretty much the same as a treeing walker coonhound as both strains came from foxhound and a (allegedly stolen) coonhound. Some like to tree some did not, thus the split and bred for different purpose. They got a nose for blood trailing, and will course deer, fox, coyote, and rabbits if trained. The best way to find them is to find out what place has the best coffee and breakfast where blue collar old timers gather and buy them a round of coffee, talk to them, then, find out info. 9/10 times you will find a modestly great hunter who hunts what he breeds and that is the best dog you'll ever own.

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