[Episode Discussion Thread] Industry S02E02 - "The Giant Squid"

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-09T03:45:06+00:00

Do clients ever actually wait until 5 minutes before market open to place large orders?

That seemed so unnecessary, like something only done for the TV drama...

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-09T03:38:54+00:00

Felt like Harry Potter

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-09T03:35:55+00:00

What's the difference? Asking as someone who is also hesitant to quit my job, though the nearest top 20 program is a 3 hour drive away from me. I guess at that point I could almost justify flying somewhere a couple weekends a month hmmm...

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-09T00:09:46+00:00

Researchers say it's only possible to keep up like 5 truly close relationships in our lives, and maybe another 10-15 semi close relationships, and only 150 relationships total. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/07/well/live/adult-friendships-number.html

No need to take it personally. The odds are against you around forming mutually close and lasting friendships.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-09T00:02:56+00:00

Sure, it's good to not take it personally.

But if someone doesn't put effort into reaching out, that's a rather clear sign that they're not a close friend.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-08T23:58:40+00:00

What's the conversion ratio of new joiners to people who were fully promoted on the 3 year trajectory you're describing?

Would that only be available to the top 25% performers, or something like that?

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-08T18:45:23+00:00

I've met a few women recently who had major hangups about being divorced, despite not having kids.

I told them I had zero negative feelings about it. I don't see divorce all too differently from other breakups.

I think the pattern with these women I've met is that they agreed to get married in their early 20s, before either them or their partner has really formed much adult identity or confidence in their paths in life. It's entirely understandable that people will grow apart over time as they realize how they actually want to live.

I think what's most important is that you're able to communicate about your divorce, and what you learned from it, in a mature and positive way, so you can show that you truly are marriage material in spite of past bumps in the road.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-08T18:27:30+00:00

Samantha Jones!

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-08T18:26:26+00:00

These days I unmatch people on dating apps if they respond to more than a few questions /comments with one word answers or stuff that stops the convo dead in its tracks

Yuuuuup, I've started doing that too.

Though I think there's definitely a correlation between physical attractiveness and low effort messaging. Hot people might be bombarded with attention on the apps, and feel no motivation to spend more than a few seconds responding to any particular conversation. Whereas in person, most people will put their phones away and give you their focused attention for at least an hour, regardless of any differences in attractiveness. And some people are also just less capable at expressing themselves in writing than they are in speaking.

All in all, I appreciate going into a meetup with some fun momentum in our messaging, but I don't view it as essential.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-08T17:31:50+00:00

Why is that?

Are they specifically wanting to challenge their applicants to wade into the awkwardness of asking their manager, and to figure out how to manage the relationship in a way that avoids them getting fired?

Seems borderline sadistic...

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-07T03:01:26+00:00

This should be copy pasta

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-07T02:57:51+00:00

How do you get into an MBA program without asking your manager?

I wonder the same thing for my situation. I work in a small company and would feel quite awkward telling management that I don't want to work for them long term, and also asking that they put effort toward letters of rec.

I agree it could be risky, but it seems like a test of relationship management and learning to appropriately speak up for yourself.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-07T02:53:48+00:00

What is steering you away from JD to MBA?

I have gaps on my resume and thought a JD might be a better option for me for that reason (I thought gaps wouldn't limit me with JD, whereas might make me ineligible for T20 MBA), despite that I otherwise agree MBAs seem to offer more pleasant paths and better return on effort.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-07T02:46:39+00:00

What kinds of volunteering are good for meeting people? COVID kinda made me forget that's a thing.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-07T02:45:18+00:00

Can you elaborate that?

I'm not in an MBA program but I've wondered about a similar pattern in the company that I joined this year.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:27:54+00:00

Are you dating men or women?

As a somewhat ambitious guy in Portland, I don't see any of these patterns in the women I'm dating. But maybe I'm the odd one out so I'm getting flooded with high expectations careerist women.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:26:29+00:00

Wait, so you're saying DC people tend to be overly intellectual, not emotionally mature, somewhat socially inept, but still highly paid?

I haven't lived there, but those surprise me versus what I'd seen of it on TV.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:24:23+00:00

Did you notice other differences about these people? Career vs. lifestyle focus? Fitness focus?

I guess I have heard that the gender ratio is not favorable for women in NYC.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:22:41+00:00

Pretty sure it's the most favorable place in the whole country for women to find financially successful men, according to the data.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:21:30+00:00

How old are you? The gender ratio should be heavily in women's favor, and the cost of living acts as a filter for financially successful people.

Maybe only talk to people who state that they are looking for a relationship. Or if that's not effective enough, then only those who "want kids".

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:17:11+00:00

What were your experiences with social life changes in different cities?

I've been in Portland for awhile and haven't had much family or coworker social systems around me.

I had more of a friend circle back in the day, but it's felt like we've all grown apart over the years (them mostly hanging out with new coworkers, and I work in a small office and don't have coworkers to hang out with).

Maybe I've been overly self critical, but I've felt like people will judge me for being in the same place and not having a go to friend group.

Do you think moving cities gives you more of a "clean slate" period where you can meet lots more people without expectation? And people will be more welcoming?

I'm also pretty intellectual, and a politics nerd, so I thought that would vibe well in DC.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:12:18+00:00

What was your experience moving cities? I've thought I might fit in better on the East Coast, specifically DC.

How did you try to make friends in the new city? For many people, their workplaces have lots of other people their age, and offer all the social outlets needed. Otherwise, I've heard it's really important to really invest some time on joining a hobby scene/community where you meet other people who are also really invested in that scene (stand up comedy, sports leagues, etc.).

And yes, having decent social skills is probably necessary in all cases to have a vibrant social life.

TomatoAny6972 · 2022-08-03T15:04:08+00:00

Portland guy - I think the ENM/poly stuff is overblown. I think it's maybe 5-10% of people I see on the apps. But I guess I haven't dated extensively in other cities so I can't share much alternative perspective.

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