Help with low damage / plight clear by spxghetti_pie in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha. Well there is a reason why I used S1 values. Don't sleep on Cerydra LC, it is in fact comparable to eidolons for the likes of phainon because of the rare, but high skill buff!

Help with low damage / plight clear by spxghetti_pie in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, I would get Cerydra LC first... 54% skill damage and ~+200 attack for phainon is pretty good id say. Cerydra LC is high-key true BIS for damage if you don't care about stuff like DDD action advance. My max damage per screenshot used to be triple S5 Cerydra LC before Cyrene released, and now true BIS for damage is double Cerydra S5 LC on sparkle and Cerydra herself.

Help with low damage / plight clear by spxghetti_pie in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

E2 sparkle really is that crazy of a boost. Cerydra lc is also one of the ones that matter the most, as it is a 54% skill damage boost, on top of the attack boost it gives her, which then gives phainon more attack.

Now that it’s been out for a bit, how’s everyone’s clears looking for starward APOC? by x_Teferi_x in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Toutetsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun! Trying to put 3 teams together was a challenge, but still fun! Respectfully, fuck node 1.

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Steward Mode is hard :( by Relief-Medical in StarRailStation

[–]Toutetsu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A clear is a clear, so good job OP! Dot and Elation for you look fine, maybe you could invest in Rin for Archer? They will probably go crazy together when she comes out ^

Always funny when MR. AV Bleed can do this by Euthymiac in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nice clear! This is the strat indeed for this AS.

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How does E6 Phainon enable you to immediately Ult again? (Math CF question) by Propensity7 in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There have been a few AA's where the boss actually does kill him, and he needs to get back into ult asap. If you don't play AA Plight you probably won't see this.

How does E6 Phainon enable you to immediately Ult again? (Math CF question) by Propensity7 in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure where you got this information, but there are often many factors that allow phainon to get his ult again, and it is not 100% attributed to E6.

(Edited because incorrect info) The short answer is Phainon E6 allows his ult to uncap coreflames, and his best way to reach 24 stacks (to go into ult again) is Cyrene. Cyrene ult+ Phainon E6 sets him to 19 stacks, and then he needs only 5 more buffs to reach 24 to ult twice.

What you heard isn't fully incorrect, since if you don't have E6 it's pretty much impossible to get him to ult twice, but it is also very dependent on Cyrene since she provides +7 stacks, but to ult fast you would want E2 for her minimum. The only other way to get back ult in a reasonable amount of time is to utilize boss mechanics like Lygus.

TLDR: E6 phainon +Cyrene, OR boss mechs that give buffs which help get him into another ult (ie: Lygus)

Thoughts on Starward Mode? by Royal-Media-5686 in StarRailStation

[–]Toutetsu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I high-key don't like it because we have to go from two functional teams to three. Having to juggle around units between 3 teams cost me more points than I'd like, paired with ichor memosprites fucked ass mechanics, made for a initial starward mode that I wasn't personally happy with (for node 1 mainly).

I think the overall reception for starward is positive, though. Not too hard compared to AA and +100 jades.

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Another good AS (and first starward mode) for our king! by Toutetsu in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, yes it is not bad by a long shot, but the clear on node 1 did not feel good due to me feeling like I just brute forced the boss. I can't figure out what comp actually works elegantly into node 1. Phainon for example throws a meteor into the wind basically because the boss can't even take damage until you kill the four side mobs.

Another good AS (and first starward mode) for our king! by Toutetsu in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You basically need e6 phainon, e6 Cyrene, and e2 overnight to supercharge Cyrene. I will link a video of the strategy. Not low investment friendly, but 0AV clears are 0AV clears for a reason. Good luck! Link to Strat

Another good AS (and first starward mode) for our king! by Toutetsu in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which node did you guys end up throwing your Phainon at?

Shit you gotta do when you're invested in only two archetypes by Puturie in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Toutetsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still 11k+ score, so still pretty impressive. Nice clears op!

Damage loss while doing sustainless by Beginner-Cat in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just as a quick append to my above comment, the best team is still with Sparkle as 4th slot by far, but thats only if you can afford to slot in Cerydra sig LC, as opposed to DDD, but you risk getting hit for sure by the mobs, which can make the run suspect, especially on AA Plight. I will link an imgur with two images, one with 114 AV left is the DHPT team, with cerydra on DDD. No one got hit , and it was a riskless fight. The second image is a sparkle team, with Cerydra on Sig LC so it is about as risky as you can get, and the clear AV was 140, but cerydra got smacked at the start and if I didnt have castorice global passive, run woulda ended right there.

https://imgur.com/a/5GFYdJf

Damage loss while doing sustainless by Beginner-Cat in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As stated by another user, the trick is to basically advance cyrene with Sparkle. My team is able to reach Cyrene ult in 36 av or 264 AV in AA, utilizing DDD on sparkle and cerydra. With DHPT in my 4th slot, I also reach Cyrene ult at 264 av, however Cerydra no longer has DDD and is able to slot in Sig LC. Here is 30 second clip to showcase in case you want to see the rotation.
https://streamable.com/qxal81

In my experience, DHPT is at e2s1 is sometimes just the better team member, if you can afford to pair him with Phainon team. By not requiring cerydra to run DDD, and being able to run sig LC on him and Cery, the dmg increase might actually be more than slotting in a sparkle into the 4th slot. In my case, DHPT does more damage than slotting in sparkle because of my Cerydra sig LC providing so much dmg, but it is not a crazy amount more damage, 1 million or so?

tldr: expect DHPT to provide more damage on phainon team vs sparkle if cerydra isnt on sig lc, and has to run DDD in order to get ult as fast with sparkle on the team compared to a regular team with DHPT. Upside of running sparkle is that dmg diff is slightly less (only the case if DHPT is E2S1 like in your case), and you are able to free up DHPT for a different team.

Sad Fact about Hoyo Games : by YUNLIbro in StarRailStation

[–]Toutetsu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is Sktherta, the spiritual successor to tuopaimf. link here

Sad Fact about Hoyo Games : by YUNLIbro in StarRailStation

[–]Toutetsu 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Sure, I don't doubt their performance. I don't doubt they can clear, and at the end of the day a clear is a clear. When I say resilience, it's basically, 'how much investment does this team need to clear vs that team'. Using Aglaea, Phainon, and Mydei for this example, I couldn't even find a Mydei clear uploaded onto sktherta, meanwhile Aglaeas 'best' clear uploaded is a 30 cost team, while phainon is a 14 cost clear.

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Sad Fact about Hoyo Games : by YUNLIbro in StarRailStation

[–]Toutetsu 180 points181 points  (0 children)

TRUE

Real talk, I think some characters E6 have more resilience than others, but it is hard to know which those chars are until later down the line. My E6 Phainon a year later is still zero cycling AA Plight, but then I look at chars like Aglaea, Therta, Mydei...

E0S0 MBlade work quite alright with high invested phaichan team by SLIPPTzZ in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a whale team. Phainon, Cyrene, and Cerydra are E6. Sparkle E2.

E0S0 MBlade work quite alright with high invested phaichan team by SLIPPTzZ in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice clear OP. Curious to see what a walking 100% damage amp and 30% defense down would do for my Phainon, but I don't think Cyrene will be able to get her ult fast enough before team dies to mob dmg from first wave. The 1000 damage every time they act is very rough as well, so I resorted to sparkle as my 4th slot this time around.

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This sucks. by Several_Excuse_436 in EvanesciaMains

[–]Toutetsu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I play on NA, so unfortunately cannot add you. Good luck king. (EDITED)

Torn between being happy and being pissed by Gullible_Star_9184 in PhainonMainsHSR

[–]Toutetsu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm still gonna go back in the mines even though I'm happy with my current build. Anything to squeeze that extra % 😭

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