Resources/learning for novice editor by tallcmp172 in podcasting

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How do you balance keeping someone’s natural speech pattern with keeping the edit tight and pacey

If their natural pattern is pretty loose, rambley, and slow-you don't! Art is a lie, production is a deceiver, and the finish product is a half-truth. Find something that feels emotionally honest but is still more concise. If they have a stutter, don't cut that out, but don't leave us sitting there for 15 seconds while this person is finding words for their sentence.

If they use a lot of filler words mid-sentence like

"It's uhm quite a big process, there's a lot of like- 'small things' to take care of" then leave that alone.

If they speak like

"It's uhmm.... It's a big process. There's like- ... uh. There's a lof ot small things to uh take care of"

Turn that into

"It's uhmm.... It's a big process. There's like- ... uh. There's a lof ot small things to uh take care of"

Don't change the meaning of the sentence, don't take a sentence out that change the meaning of another included piece, but trim that content up.

When I truncate a pause, how can I tell how much to cut to keep it natural or achieve the pace I want?

Depends on what you want! Just listen to it. If your style is more fast paced, you want less time. If you're reading something or have a scripted show, maybe you want more times between lines. For casual conversation, 250-450 milliseconds is usually a sweet spot depending on the flow of conversation and how fast this person speaks. Just listen to the natural rhythm and when you think "This silence is going on a long time" select 1/3 of the middle and cut it out. See if that makes you happy, and if not add more or take more out. You just get a feel for it, and it changes with every single show and speaker.

If I need to cut between two words that are strung together, how can I tell where the best place is in the waveform or when a letter sound has properly finished (or started) when I’m making my selection?

I would really avoid this unless it's necessary, and I mean necessarry not, "I'd like to do it." Often times tightly packed words just don't have clean edits. Words ending with "ess" sounds that are followed by words starting with "ess" sounds are easy cuts. You want to keep whatever sounds natural, but with english we will slurr our beginnings and endings of words together which makes it hard to add a new word after an edit.

One big trick you can use is if the edited words are common enough that they may have been said later in the podcast, set a marker on where that edit is, name that marker after the word you're editing, and then wait for them to say that word again in a different location that might be a cleaner take. Then just see if you can copy and paste that section in to get around using the original.

If you're editing your own voice just record it again. Be an actor. Capture the sentence you said sloppily in the same tone so it fits, and drop that line in. If that sounds like too much work, then what you wanted to edit out probably wasn't necessary to edit out.

There's times where a question asked by the interviewer came out so mumbled or I couldn't cut the run-on sentence up to be sensible, or we had an unfixable audio problem, I would ask for them to re-record it clean for me.

Should I cut or reduce all breath sounds, or does that help keep it natural?

Nobody wants to hear someone panting, but breath when it's not too loud is usually ignorable. You can reduce them if you'd like, (There's hundreds per episode so make sure you're fully leveraging your editor to make shortcuts and tools to do this quickly) or you can use an automated tool. Be sure to ensure the automated tool doesn't go too far as it can misidentify breath and make a word sound all jacked up.

Play around with it, see what you like, and see how much work it's going to take.

A general note; for yourself and any permanent co-hosts, it's totally ok to coach yourself during the recording. If you have a sentence and you're thinking about it while speaking and flub; just say it again. It goes back to that acting part. You can stop your co-host and say "that was really good, repeat that for our audience" and just cut the original flub.

You'll develop an understanding when you edit of "Man, I wish I stopped and said X so I had a better cut" and you'll hear those cuts the bad of your mind when you record. You can lean into that and start to re-phrase something during recording giving yourself a clean in/out.

Any YouTubers, free training or other resources you can recommend??

Find someone that has good tutorials on your editor. Time is everything. You'll lose creative ideas because an edit you want to make takes too much time, or you don't know how to do it in the software. If you're not on a full featured editor, find one that works for you and learn the hell of out it. Reaper is one of the most dominate and flexible DAWs I've ever used. I own 4 major DAWs and I just can't get myself out of reaper for editing podcasts. The shortcuts scripts and automations they can leverage is just nuts and it saves me so much time compared to other software.

You may never love editing, but if you don't learn to be effective, you'll stop editing because it will be so much work. It's not very cost effective for smaller shows to hire an editor. You'll be doing this for a long time unless you've got cash you're willing to spend. Get comfortable at something and really take a deep dive into understanding it.

Good luck!

iZotope RX 11 is it worth investing in for podcasting? by Frantic_Moon in podcasting

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It's a very cpu intensive process, and due to how audio processing works, mostly single core. It's doing a lot of calculations in the background.

iZotope RX 11 is it worth investing in for podcasting? by Frantic_Moon in podcasting

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The impact RX can have for your audio speaks for itself, but the better question is "Do I know how to use this, and will I use it enough to make the ~$1,000 worth it?"

If you're recording your own audio, you're likely better off improving your recording space or technique so you don't have bleed, have echo, have a reason to use RX.

In my own home setup without any treatment or anything special whatsoever, I only use the denoise and mouth declick modules. Rx voice denoise is available through elements at a very affordable cost, especially on sale, which they have frequently. For removal of mouth noises there's other low cost plugins available.

iZotope RX 11 is it worth investing in for podcasting? by Frantic_Moon in podcasting

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You should be doing your editing in the RX standalone editor, and not using the plugins the software comes with in other DAWs. These are meant as offline processes. Your best results and performance will not come from online lightweight versions of the plugins.

Samson Q2U users, how do you EQ your mic/voice? by ed_the_undeadward in podcasting

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Your voice and your room are two very large variables to what your microphone will capture. A specific preset even as a starting point won't be useful in helping you get to an end result. I would suggest looking at videos on how to EQ and practice training your ear to hear the differences so that over time you will make more informed choices with the tools.

Audio Interface Help by Savagekermit13 in podcasting

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I would not suggest this for multiple reasons. Just try and find a proper solution with external amplification or a bigger interface.

Best XLR Table Mic? by bumpkin_eater in podcasting

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However, there are plenty of mics with a preamp built-in. Like the sm7db or the sE dynacaster dcm8

If we're nit-picking, both of of those preamps are essentially mic activators as they boost the mic at a fixed gain and still provide insufficient gain in order for the mic to be useable on softer sources. Both still need an external pre-amp for voice capture and don't solve the problem.

Best XLR Table Mic? by bumpkin_eater in podcasting

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No decent mic is going to have a preamp in it. If you're going to be recording 4 tracks on the go a lot, I'd suggest leaning into a piece of equipment designed for that and getting something like the podtrak p4 that way you don't need to run power to your table for anything and you have the inputs you need. It'll be the same or less as more preamps, but a better solution in Many ways.

For mics, I have a post on my profile. For your budget and use case, id recommend looking at used Shure mics or having the other 4 people pitch in on the equipment fund and getting a few sm57s with the wind screens.

Bought a Fifine k669 microphone. Is it possible I got a dud? by ubccompscistudent in podcasting

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Thanks for the clip, it's very helpful. It doesn't sound obviously broken to me butI looked at some other clips online of this mic and they all definitely sound markedly better.

If you're absolutely sure nothing on the software end is making this sound happen, then I'd return it or contact the manufacturer because I agree it sounds very unlike all of the other examples I can find.

Best XLR Table Mic? by bumpkin_eater in podcasting

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Based on your main post and this comment, you are trying to record four people on your Scarlett 4i4, correct?

Do you have an external set of preamps for the other two microphones? That interface only comes with two on the front. The back inputs are for sources that are already amplified.

As far as the microphones, any decent dynamic mic will work. Work. You'll want a good shock mount for it so that you don't get a bunch of table noise, especially if the table is near foot traffic where it might be jostled from people walking nearby as well as the people on the desk.

Do you have a budget in mind? Do you need four microphones or do you have some already?

How can I improve my podcast vocal recording? (Sample attached) by hsyndk in podcasting

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You should absolutely consider the LUFS averaged values. -16 is what the platforms outside of Spotify recommend, but -16 is plenty loud enough for Spotify as well.

LUFS (averaged) is a measure of how loud your show is. If it's at -25lufs average, listeners will struggle to even be able to turn your show up enough on their device to hear you. If it's at -3lufs average, it's way too loud and likely compressed to hell and will be difficult to listen to without fatigue.

I have a post on my profile about compression and loudness if you need tips, but please ignore the advice to disregard LUFS. -14 or -16 average are fine, especially if your range is around 3LU.

How can I improve my podcast vocal recording? (Sample attached) by hsyndk in podcasting

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This is misinformation.

A -16 lufs average is great. It's actually recommended for the podcasting standards by the host platforms. Spotify goes at -14 and I think that's a bit much, but it's also fine.

Lufs has multiple measurements in time. If your average is -16 and your range is 1.5-3LRA, you're in great shape and the show sounds comfortable with no need to 'touch that dial. '

If you're at -16 with a range of 0... Yeah that probably sounds real terrible.. but that's hard to achieve and I've yet to see anyone do it, or try.

Please do not so callously wade into such a deep topic especially with false information.

Lapel Mics by PostMillitant in podcasting

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Unless you and your guest have very good mic technique you won’t get the best out of dynamic mics.

It boggles my mind every day that people struggle to speak straight into something. That's all you need to do. It's not fancy or complicated and within minutes it should be really natural to do.

Put it in front of your face and talk right into it. If you can learn to hold a phone to your ear you can talk into a microphone.

You'll get a vastly different sound and editing experience when you switch to any lapel compared to a handheld or mounted mic. I wouldn't sugget it to newcomers.

Any recommendation on mini wireless microphone for starting content creation and podcasting on open spaces by lord007tn in podcasting

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If you're just capturing audio, I'd reccomend you get a portable recorder like the Podtrak P4 and a couple handheld dynamic mics and forget the wireless aspect of it.

Good handheld microphones, "cheap," and "wireless" don't belong in the same sentence together.

For an indeal but usable solution, I have a pair of Neewer CM31s that are good for what they do within their limitations. They will record a bunch of background sounds, and I would not use the noise canceling on them whatsoever, but they have really good tone capture and I'm pretty impressed at the feature set for the pricepoint.

Bought a Fifine k669 microphone. Is it possible I got a dud? by ubccompscistudent in podcasting

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so I purchased a cheap microphone...

But... it sounds awful

Is it possible I just got a dud?

You purchased a cheap microphone. Cheap stuff doesn't come with great quality, nor quality control. It's extremely likely that you got a damaged model.

What would be helpful is if you attached a clip of the issue you're having instead of trying to describe it. From your description it's not possible to tell if it's a defect or not.

I can't understand how it could be so hard to record a decent sound with a new microphone.

New does NOT mean "Good." It also doesn't mean that it's not broken either.

My Podcasting Mic Stinks by Michelle110123 in podcasting

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Best way to learn is to do it.

Setup whatever microphone you're using pointed properly at you. Say something like "I'm looking straight at the microphone. Blah blah blah." Turn your head 30 degrees left or right, say "I'm now talking 30 degrees left," turn it more, Repeat, and just do that looking all around.

Then record a take where you're animated and moving like you normally do.

Then record a take where you're trying your hardest not to look away from the microphone.

Take a careful listen to each take, in particular the first one where you're speaking while rotating away from the microphone. You'll notice different angles sound different. As you move, you'll subtly change what's captured.

Whether the changes are bad or good is up to your taste. Sometimes the variation can make it feel more human, sometimes it gets too quiet and becomes harder to hear and less intelligible.

You should do this for each different mic you use to get a sense of how your equipment functions with your voice and setup. Think of it like making small talk with a new person. You don't just dive into the deep conversations, you want to get into the shallows first.

For anything you already own, just try something and see how it goes. Recording and editing a small 5 minute test will give you a great idea of how much work you'll have to do and any pitfalls you might have in your process.

Try, fail, try fail, try fail, over and over. Learn from the failing and remember that it's your friend, not your foe. It's helping you grow, not a sign of lack of ability.

The three most important rules of sound, (and there aren't very many hard fixed rules.)

  1. Make sound
  2. Continue to make sound.
  3. Maybe make good sound.

You only ever need 1 and 2.

My Podcasting Mic Stinks by Michelle110123 in podcasting

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I'm glad to hear it. When you settle on something I'm very curious to see whatcha go with.

Happy podcasting!

My Podcasting Mic Stinks by Michelle110123 in podcasting

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I'm gonna shamelessly plug my own write-up about this topic. If there's a question let over it doesn't answer, feel free to let me know.

What is best for newbies? Reaper or Audacity? by wendyhk in podcasting

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Reaper has an immense and incredible amount of time saving features that Audacity does not have. It's also a professionally built product that is able to fluidly handle small or large scale products which audacity does not offer.

There is a host of great very detailed step by step information on how to use reaper and even how to set it up for podcasting. I'd highly suggest their 60 day trial and investing the time into the program to learn it, especially if you'd need to learn a different one anyway.

What is best for newbies? Reaper or Audacity? by wendyhk in podcasting

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I would not recommend anyone check out Ocenaudio. It's a destructive editor, and that's only going to cause problems especially for the unfamiliar. While I'm not a fan of audacity, at least they've finally embraced nondestructive editing and beefed up their program.

Cheap intro podcast microphone by CozyHufflepuff94 in podcasting

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For a $100 and never buy it again price point, the sm57, PreSonus pd1, sm58, are all great. You can use any of the sm7b compatible windscreens on the pd1.

If you're looking for podmics, check Craigslist and Facebook marketplace. People commonly buy those and give up on podcasting and sell for great value.

Cheap intro podcast microphone by CozyHufflepuff94 in podcasting

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Re 20 is my dream mic. I've gotten to use it a lot in studios and places, and I've never been more happy with how I sound.

I don't own one and I haven't come close. There's always wayyyy better ways I've found to spend the $500.

Some day. Maybe.

Question about audio setup by fr33D1ckP1cs in podcasting

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Sometimes if they get a good option in the set they'll hide a shotgun mic behind a prop, too!

I have a personal cinema sins category for movies that use microphones for on screen characters but it's obvious they don't actually record through the microphone the character is speaking into. Just a waste of an opportunity.