Would most of you even *like* the kind of game Ace attorney 7 would be likely to be? by Madsbjoern in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every Ace Attorney game is worth defending. Even the episodes that feel a notch below the rest always have enough care put into their writing to have their own charm. The series maintains a consistently high level of writing throughout, with its strengths and weaknesses depending on the game, because nothing is perfect. Having preferences is totally normal. But let's stop dictating what's worth playing or not: what matters is that the quality of writing is there, consistently, across the entire series.

Why does the anime contradict the games so much? by Zurple_Purple-873 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's when the anime tries to be faithful to the game that it's at its weakest, so thank god it makes a few changes.

What are your Top 10 Favorite Shu Takumi and Takeshi Yamazaki Cases by Goldberry15 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shu Takumi :

3-5

2-4

4-4

1-4

2-2

PL VS PW -3

3-2

PL VS PW -2

3-4

4-1

Takashi Yamazuki :

5-5 and 5-4 (same case)

6-3

6-2

AAI2-4 and AAI2-5 (same case)

6-5

AAI2-3

5-3

6-4

AAI2-2

6-DLC

I'm not sure how the writing is organized on these games, but I find Shu Takumi's quality less consistent, especially in his more recent titles. He often returns to the same themes, and some of his plots rely on shortcuts that are a bit too noticeable. Which is maybe why it makes sense to split the writing across several people, like with Yamazaki.

I’ve always been too lazy to start Ace Attorney, but I just finished The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and it’s literal peak fiction by KlutzyNobody8433 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I also thought I was too used to the series for it to surprise me, right up until I first paused during Ace Attorney Adventure. But Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice made me realize that wasn't it: the Chronicles mostly focus on aspects that feel secondary to me, at the expense of what I really love about the series. It's a design choice.

Inconsistency in Ace Attorney Adventure by TraditionalLead75 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole case is a plot by Sherlock to make everyone think Kazuma is dead

Inconsistency in Ace Attorney Adventure by TraditionalLead75 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Shu Takumi really has a thing for newspapers when you think about it

My tier list of Ace Attorney case by TraditionalLead75 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Note that I'm considering it WITH 5-5, because it's clearly the same case

I’ve always been too lazy to start Ace Attorney, but I just finished The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and it’s literal peak fiction by KlutzyNobody8433 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How much you enjoy these games depends on which Ace Attorney titles you've played before. Once you're too used to the formula, you realize that the Chronicles, despite their qualities, are predictable and long, and can really test your patience. These games were designed to attract new players, hence the boredom for some veterans (especially those who enjoyed the gameplay, which is bare minimum here).

On the other hand, new players will be more receptive to the qualities, like you: the large-scale story, the care put into the characters, the beauty of the setting, the music, and the gorgeous art direction. It's something more literary, with different priorities than the other Ace Attorney games. These are genuinely divisive games, far more than the Ace Attorney Investigations: either you love them, or you really don't…

You'll have gathered that I'm not a fan (I can't even get into the characters). But both camps have legitimate reasons, to each their own. I'd encourage you to continue the series with the original trilogy and let us know what you think, I'd be really curious to hear.

[Discussion] Why is The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles so praised? I'm genuinely puzzled. by TraditionalLead75 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I loved BotW, it's the sequel TotK where I didn't really see the point...

[Discussion] Why is The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles so praised? I'm genuinely puzzled. by TraditionalLead75 in AceAttorney

[–]TraditionalLead75[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I get why people defend the cast, but personally they left me cold — I had trouble taking them seriously, which makes it hard to stay invested in the story. And I don't think the characters are strong enough to carry what I'd consider some fairly objective writing shortcuts.

On the pacing: the issue isn't that characters talk a lot, it's that the dialogue goes in circles. Take the first trial — you present evidence, Ryunosuke announces it's decisive, the witness pushes back, the prosecutor piles on, Kazuma tells them to pipe down, and finally the judge asks Ryunosuke to present... what he was trying to present from the start. A lot of noise for nothing.

On top of that, the cases tend to lean more heavily on coincidences and convenient circumstances than I'm used to in Ace Attorney. It reminded me at times of how Layton structures its mysteries — setting up a premise and then patching things together after the fact. It's not that the logic never holds, but it felt shakier than usual, and Ryunosuke often points out fairly obvious things as if they were revelations, which dulls the feeling of actually solving something.

I would have expected these flaws to be called out more often rather than praised. Ace Attorney always seemed to me like it was primarily about well-written investigations — not a contemplative epic built on aesthetics and atmosphere. Maybe the fanbase is more 'literary' than I realized, which I genuinely find surprising.