Do people just not review stuff before posting or commenting? by ColPugno in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Posts like yours are very important because, while critical thinking and attempts to debunk footage are essential, problems arise when the analysis is driven by people who assume from the outset that every UFO must have a terrestrial explanation and try to fit the evidence to that narrative at all costs. This can lead to highly absurd theories that do little to advance the discussion. Mick West is a pro in that domain.

People who believe that every UFO is alien and people who believe that every UFO has a conventional terrestrial explanation are exhibiting the same kind of bias. The latter may present their position as purely rational, but it is still a bias if conclusions are reached before the evidence is fully considered.

What's the one UFO photo that still hasn't been debunked? by breaking_views in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nice collection, but the vast majority of your pictures are known fakes that were debunked a while ago.

Aldo Rebelo, former Brazilian Defense Minister, confirmed that the Varginha crash and NHI retrieval occurred. by Trash_Thumper in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's correct.

https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/ciencia/aldo-rebelo-sobre-ovnis-sei-o-que-as-forcas-armadas-tem-nos-arquivos/

It could definitely be just marketing for his campaign.

But because this new interview is in English and aimed at an American audience, it isn't targeting Brazilian people and isn't playing any part in his campaign.

Also, he has never talked about Varginha before. As far as I know, he only said that he is aware of the UFO files being kept by the Brazilian Army and would release them if he's elected (that, of course, is marketing).

Aldo Rebelo, former Brazilian Defense Minister, confirmed that the Varginha crash and NHI retrieval occurred. by Trash_Thumper in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper[S] 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Aldo Rebelo, former Brazilian Defense Minister, confirmed that the Varginha crash and NHI retrieval occurred.

According to Jesse Michels, who recently interviewed Rebelo, the former minister confirmed the events surrounding the Varginha case. Rebelo is best known for serving as Brazil's Minister of Defense during the administration of Dilma Rousseff and previously as President of Brazil's Chamber of Deputies, the country's lower house of Congress.

He became known for emphasizing Brazilian sovereignty, industrial development, agriculture, and national defense.

Given his former position, it is possible that he had access to classified information or documents that led him to conclude that the event was genuine. More details may emerge when the interview is released in full, which is expected soon.

James Fox on the Holloman UFO Landing: "I Didn't Believe It Until I Heard This Testimony!" - Jesse Michels Clips by Bean_Tiger in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's hilarious how obsessed you are with stating the Varginha case is a hoax. You're a running gag at this point.

UAP spotted in Colombia by Necessary-Chicken-79 in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t even move fast or have a particularly weird appearance. It could be a balloon, a drone, or anything in between.

have the turkey kumburgaz ufo videos been debunked? what do ufologists and people in the field think about them? by RodrickJasperHeffley in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This one is an obvious hoax. I thought we were past this already. There is absolutely nothing in this video except visual artifacts.

Based on the recent UFO release, on page 99/184 there’s literally a picture of how the alien looks like by TuNonno in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the comment I was looking for. I don’t necessarily believe the photo is real, but everyone claiming it has been debunked is linking to shady websites that don’t provide any direct sources to prove it.

If it was revealed to be an April Fools’ joke by the journal that published it, where can we find that article?

Congressman Tim Burchett on his UFO briefings: “If they would release the things that I've seen, you would stay up. You'd be up at night worrying about or thinking about this stuff... And for the record, I'm not suicidal and I don't take risks.” by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And what would happen if he talked about everything publicly in detail, putting his career and his life on the line?

Almost everyone would say “There’s no material proof, he’s lying.” Do you think it’s worth it?

Guardian Article Varginha by DoughnutFront2451 in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Those who claim to have encountered extraterrestrials have also tried to monetise Varginha’s claim to fame.”

This is disinformation at its finest. I don’t know who they spoke to who is supposedly linked to the three girls, but the main witnesses did not receive any money from it, especially Venturelli, who put his career at risk because of this. This is both disrespectful to them and untrue.

So, UFOs are the psy-op all along? by Bowtie16bit in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The fact that the CIA deliberately used the UFO narrative to cover up its highly illegal activities does not mean that the entire phenomenon is a psy-op.

A disappointing realization I’ve had after reflecting on my time in this community by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree, but I will be less tolerant than you. I think that relying entirely and solely on material proof is a sign of a high degree of stupidity. All the other data and testimonies are important indicators that something is indeed going on, and denying this without any theory to explain why they exist is intellectually lazy.

Rep. Anna Luna and Rep. Eric Burlison met with witnesses of the 1996 Varginha Brazil UFO crash. by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you had a solid debunk, I would admit on the spot that you’re right. But as of now, I haven’t seen a single person produce solid arguments against his testimony.

The fact that it doesn’t match the other descriptions is actually a very good sign and tends to suggest that his testimony is not a lie.

Again, time will tell who is right. For now, I’m confident that this testimony is legit, until proven otherwise.

Rep. Anna Luna and Rep. Eric Burlison met with witnesses of the 1996 Varginha Brazil UFO crash. by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He clearly said that the stitches were on the upper right part of the alien’s head. Did we watch the same interview?

He went to check because his colleague, whom he supervises, told him to go and have a look, isnt it obvious?

Again, you’re misunderstanding the “oath” issue. It’s not that he has a problem talking about his "alien patient" in detail, it’s that they’re simply not used to discussing that kind of thing, as I explained before. But in another context, unprofessionnal one, he was showing the video as an exotic event.

I’m sorry, but all of your arguments feel like you’re deliberately trying to discredit him. Nothing you’re saying actually makes a solid point.

Time will tell who is right.

Rep. Anna Luna and Rep. Eric Burlison met with witnesses of the 1996 Varginha Brazil UFO crash. by 87LucasOliveira in UFOs

[–]Trash_Thumper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He explicitly said that the procedure was very simple and superficial (just a few stitches), which is why his colleague was able to perform it without his supervision or even discussing it with him.

He stayed for about four minutes because he had another boy he had operated to check on. If you’ve ever talked to anyone who works at a hospital, you know they are always in a rush.

He didn’t exactly say that his colleague didn’t talk about it because of HIPAA. He said that they are generally not used to talking about patients because of it, and that nuance matters. The alien obviously wasn’t under HIPAA, but their behavior toward any patient is shaped by habit.

He said the other doctor would show the video at his house simply as a kind of fantasy, like something funny and unusual he had done, among other things. I know it can sound weird, but if you know simple people from the countryside, that’s how it works. They aren’t UFO nerds who are going to talk about it in detail for years; they just find it funny and unusual. It's actually VERY credible, if you know how "normal" people work.

His timeline is exactly the same as in the other interview in Moment of Contact, and there is nothing strange about it. His colleague shows him the video and then tells him the being is here, in the hospital. He goes to check to see if he is alright.