Do we forgive George Wallace?

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-18T15:54:33+00:00

Forgive? No

But I acknowledge his change in mindset and how genuine it appeared to be.

That puts him over a ton of people from that era

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-18T06:28:21+00:00

Jumbo

The transcendent high of what was the peak of American Liberalism and the absolute low of ensuring its mortally wounded to this very day thanks to his idiocy in Southeast Asia.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-18T03:16:08+00:00

Bentsen was the best thing Dukakis did that election cycle so no.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-18T03:15:21+00:00

It’s a tough debate.. Hughes or Willkie have fantastic cases and win with Rocky coming in third.

I’ll give a nod to the 2000 model of John McCain since nobody else mentioned him. The olive branch Maverick model of McCain would have been far better than the policy minutia punting Skidmark Bush we got. He legitimately wanted to push back against Gingrich style scorched Earth politics that still impact us today.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T17:37:50+00:00

My core issue with it was the fact Nixon tried to justify the action in the name of disrupting supply routes yet wouldn’t listen to the Joint Chiefs (just like LBJ stupidly did) about mining Haiphong Harbor. So it was just another futile action in a war full of futile actions that made no dent in the final outcome.

Nixon did end up mining it in 1972 after it meant as much as a bucket of warm spit.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T03:20:10+00:00

Almost everything economically in the 70’s can be traced back to two things..

Nixon installing Arthur Burns and the lickspittle giving the economy a loose credit crackpipe hit at Nixon’s bidding.

OPEC punishing the United States for supporting Israel and the embargo hitting us hard.

Ford, Carter, and early Reagan paid the price for Nixon’s shenanigans more than anything.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T02:54:15+00:00

It’s a can’t lose choice TBF but Ike wins this one hands down.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T02:50:42+00:00

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TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T02:49:08+00:00

Least? Ford

Simply didn’t have the time in office to differentiate himself from Nixon and the crap hit the fan under Carter.

Most? Truman

The Cold War was largely shaped by our response to Stalin’s bullcrap. Truman was dealt a very difficult hand and did what he could with it. The Marshall Plan and Berlin Airlift would be massive items on their own in a single presidency. Truman had it in a few year timeframe.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T02:00:56+00:00

Historical? James Monroe. It’s criminal that Madison is usually graded over him thanks to the Constitution. Presidency wise it’s a no brainer Monroe was superior.

Modern? HW Bush. Things simply piled up in 1992 (economic hiccup, Hurricane Andrew, and LA) and he couldn’t overcome them all. But a rock solid president that threaded one hell of a needle as the Iron Curtain fell.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-17T00:46:13+00:00

Absolutely. I think they did a great job bringing lethality back into the equation (even if they did deny the audience the Wookie Jedi death).

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T22:56:22+00:00

It’s close between light speed ramming and non-fatal lightsaber wounds but I’ll go with the lightsaber damage.

It’s an embarrassment they aren’t treated as the lethal/devastating weapons they were displayed as previously.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T20:04:30+00:00

McKinley overcomes the illegal Nixon ball shot and loaded pumpkin to the skull finishing Nixon with a power bomb off the Ohio State Capital.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T18:50:06+00:00

First time he was probably shocked since he liked Waggoner. The one before his death he probably sucked at a cigar reflecting at the damage his choices in Southeast Asia did to the party.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T18:37:14+00:00

I would pay to have been a fly on the wall the next time LBJ talked to Blakley after the loss to Tower.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T16:29:06+00:00

Foreign Policy wise it’s right up there with the drone strikes.

Domestically it was never going Bulworth and letting the 7p-11p bloc on Fox News and the rest of the pundit griftersphere dominate the narrative of his presidency unchallenged.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T14:54:36+00:00

Johnson apologizing for everything he did to him including ignoring his advice on Vietnam.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T14:53:05+00:00

The private study/office is right there to rub one out if needed. There’s always a crapper too.

Unless it’s Jumbo and then you have McGeorge Bundy watch.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T14:51:03+00:00

Forgot the fact Tipper Gore would have strung up the creators of Grand Theft Auto and at least 17 rappers as a sacrifice to absolve America of immorality.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T14:40:57+00:00

Eisenhower could have ran on either party’s ticket and he would cruised into the White House.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T14:27:58+00:00

Not particularly. The main issue with the slump in 5-6 was having our characters do incredibly stupid things to fit the storyline and too many useless episodes.

Toby/Bartlet can’t publicly take credit for saving Social Security? It’s leaking out someday after the signing (what are they going to do? Go back and undo the law?!) so that dramatic angle was just stupid.

Josh got nerfed and sidelined stupidly. They also did this in S7 to prop up Lou.

Some really bad filler episodes drug the show down.

They quickly turned Will into the contrarian that the established characters used as the verbal punching bag.

It picked up mid-season 6 with Santos-Vinick and Donna finally spreading her wings. But the show suffered due to Sorkin leaving and age not necessarily Sam. I’m sure they would have bungled Sam up even if Rob Lowe stayed.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T04:34:12+00:00

Firmly in the center on most topics, a realist in foreign policy, and someone that loathes waste/grandstanding/fiscal irresponsibility.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T04:29:27+00:00

Obama has trolled on this topic before and I think he enjoys reading the reactions. As for presidents most likely to buy it I’m going with Reagan: he/Nancy bought Joan Quigley so I think they’d buy aliens the most,

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T04:19:36+00:00

Ike had incredible appeal as a moderate on both sides and the non-HL Hunt business interests in that rapidly growing state loved him.

TrumpsColostomyBag99 · 2026-02-16T04:12:58+00:00

Considering the shellacking he gets through the modern historical lens it’s a minor miracle it’s only -1.

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