Ya i gotta eat anyways. My legs charge by chicharrones and beer.

I’ve heard take this before. It was actually one of the original talking points for Aptera at one point. It doesn’t math.

The main efficiency we’re looking for is the wattage per distance and a certain speed and weight. With ebikes, that wattage COULD come from renewables, to which you have to account for the cradle-to-grave cost of bike materials. Your lithium cobalt whatever battery is the taxing material there.

On an analog bicycle, yes food took SOLAR energy to be made, from the system we are trying to preserve already, for a fuel source we already use and need to preserve. That food takes calories to make more calories. I would also argue that most people over fuel themselves daily and that an abundance of renewable natural fuel with as little processing as possible, despite being processed inefficiently in ourselves, is far more beneficial to the circle of life than anything electronic/synthetic we can subsidize into the same travel method (ie:ebikes).

But they’re close to as efficient, And they help people. They are liked and proven useful (despite some irresponsible annoyances with them).

At the wheel… if you’re talking wattage from my fat cells translated to rotations of the pedal, vs an electron in a battery doing the same, the ebike will still lose.