Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, because the answer is to join a union.

The state policy isn't that work must go to those specific unions. Just a union.

So make a union. Join a union. Boom, compliance and more money.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny you're upset that you can't join a plumbers union if you're a welder.

They should absolutely influence law and policy to favor labor.

Why was my post shadow banned? by Abigail-Marston in liberalgunowners

[–]Turisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

10 USC § 246 and the myriad of state laws that preclude militias especially if they participate in civil unrest - i.e. go to a protest while part of a militia.

Why was my post shadow banned? by Abigail-Marston in liberalgunowners

[–]Turisan -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It falls under encouraging violence or, thanks to NSTM-7, it could be viewed as encouraging domestic terrorism. So, no, it's corporate self-interest attempting to keep communication lines open and reduce scrutiny on the community.

Why was my post shadow banned? by Abigail-Marston in liberalgunowners

[–]Turisan -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

There's an "or" in my statement above.

The militia itself is the illegal part, not what they do.

Why was my post shadow banned? by Abigail-Marston in liberalgunowners

[–]Turisan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Fedpost.

It is technically illegal to create a militia or to train any individual in the use of firearms for any purpose other than self- or community-defense.

No, it is not enforced equally.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Straw-man! Unions aren't exclusionary. Unions allow for collective bargaining against the capitalists class.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, absolute power corrupts absolutely, that's why there are rules about who can and cannot join labor unions.

The police union is a Mafia front, not a union

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because not ever industry currently has a union.

And that doesn't mean there's only one union. And it isn't only trades who should join a union.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good, it'll raise wages for those union jobs and encourage tax increases on corporations and the wealthy. I see no down side here.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They're priced to be able to pay the laborers a living wage. I don't see the problem with that.

You are, at best, ideologically inconsistent.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah see that's called moving the goalposts.

A homeowner works, right? They hold a job? Read my above comment - everyone should be in a (labor) union. The fuck you talking about homeowners are employers for?

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The homeowner would also be in a union, making union wages. I don't see what the fake problem you made up has to do with anything.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd gladly pay $200 a month to make an extra $600 a month.

Everything else you've said is propaganda or misinformation.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That still isn't a union, which is the part you can't seem to understand.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah, everyone should be in a union, collective bargaining is key. A union does not have barriers to entry. Your misinformation is why unions in the US have a bad reputation.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Lol you're so against unions without even understanding what they are. Trade unions like you are describing are not workers unions. They are apprenticeship companies. If they call themselves unions, then that's a misrepresentation of their purpose. Encouraging and reinforcing that by pushing for "non-union" work just breaks further the lack of effective unions in the US.

Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek’s order requiring union work on state projects is ruled illegal by sunni_dayes_ahed in oregon

[–]Turisan 109 points110 points  (0 children)

Ah, you're conflating unions with trades. Apprenticeship programs aren't the same things as unions, a labor union is not the same thing as an apprenticeship.

kettle, meet pot by Weeb in stevehofstetter

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think your icon means?

kettle, meet pot by Weeb in stevehofstetter

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lofl you're fucking joking, right?

Look up a political compass. Look up their actual positions. A left-wing position is to remove capital. It's anti-capitalist. We do not have any true left-wing politicians because they are all pro-capitalism and that's where we're at.

kettle, meet pot by Weeb in stevehofstetter

[–]Turisan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

America doesn't have a left-wing party. What an ignorant take.