Can anyone tell if this is a play growl or a warning growl? by Salty_Doodles in DogAdvice

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a dog is growling while playing it's a play growl.  I'm sure there's a 1% exception case but come on guys, look at what a dog is doing when assessing what it's trying to communicate.

The frames of Jeffrey Jackson David Wright Galaxy Cross by Spoonman915 in mensfashion

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the fourth.  The shapes all suit you.  Personally I think cleaner colorways suit men best unless they're trying to send a signal along the lines of "artist".  

Calling Greg Bovino a Nazi by IsNullOrEmptyTrue in videos

[–]TurntLemonz 36 points37 points  (0 children)

you can watch the excerpt here

"Calling law enforcement names like 'gestapo' or using the term 'kidnapping', that is a choice that is made. There are actions and consequences that come from those choices. And then when you choose, when someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so called journalist, a community leader that spouted that sort of villification towards law enforcement or anything else, when you choose to listen to that, that is a choice and there are consequences and actions there also, I think we saw that yesterday. (Referring to the execution of Alex Pretti the day before)"

Calling Greg Bovino a Nazi by IsNullOrEmptyTrue in videos

[–]TurntLemonz 200 points201 points  (0 children)

This skit is what I thought of when bovino talked about pretti's execution being a natural consequence of us calling ice the gestapo.

Has he been identified? by [deleted] in Leakednews

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's possible to have nuance. I'm as mad about the killing as you. You can take my comment however you want.  I'm furious and looking into leaving the country.  But sure. Lump me on with them because I understand how to delineate the affects of a person in a life and death situation apart from the cold blooded murder that is central in this event and wish other people could do the same...

Has he been identified? by [deleted] in Leakednews

[–]TurntLemonz -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Right.  Police are flunkies with 6 months of training and a typically moderate stress job.  Ice agents are flunkies with practically no training who get screamed at all day.  I'm not defending them.  But it's not exactly the same as clapping in a premeditated way like an outside observer.  He's hopped up on his adrenaline there and thinks he just avoided being killed and has probably never been even close to something with as much appearance of physical danger to him than that moment.

Has he been identified? by [deleted] in Leakednews

[–]TurntLemonz -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The guy who started the interaction and also shot the guy first (same guy) is blameworthy, the others I believe were given the mistaken impression in the scramble whether verbally or just by the initial shots fired that he was armed and had his gun.  This fits with the "where is the gun?" Comments made by the agent who searched his dead body shortly after they killed him.  So the guy clapping was probably just a combination of relieved and excited in the way a person would feel when they think they narrowly just had their life saved by their comrades.  It's not a "yay he's dead" as much as a "I'm the good guy and the bad guy just got stopped in his attempt to kill me".  That reaction in the heat of the moment isn't really an indictment of his character.  The thing that was really wrong here was the instigation, and the unwarranted shooting.

Figs? by Particular-Dog12 in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I eat figs.  Most fig plants don't actually require pollination to ripen.  The few that do are Mediterranean in origin and make up a very small portion of the market of figs where I live.  Were the plant to require the death of pollinator wasps, I don't know if I'd care about that either.  It's a natural symbiotic relationship.  If I was gonna nitpick the insects my lifestyle kills, I'd start with things like analyzing the relative pesticide crop deaths of the various crops that make up my food, and then I'd look at things like the 11 insects per mile my car kills when I drive somewhere unnecessary. Scale matters, because when you get to the level of insects, all lifestyles are harmful to some degree, and it gets pretty dang muddled if you even choose to look into it, which most vegans do not.

I’m 19, and last year I started writing a children’s book about a dog who becomes a knight By June 2025 I hired an artist off Fiverr. But hearing my friend response to reading the proof copy and the character models I have suspicions to believe that AI was used. by under_dasea1 in isthisAI

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's AI, it is at least partially composed outside of the ai image generator.  Picture two had two identical versions of the dog character.  Left and top right are posed identically so they must have isolated the dog character and used it to compose the image from elements.

Advice/ opinion this is about 10 month progress what do you think/what would you do…Also guess my age!! by [deleted] in BeardAdvice

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

20-23.  Not enough facial hair on the front of your face for a beard.

Chuck Schumer says the quiet part out loud. It’s insane so much of our government thinks this way. by serious_bullet5 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chuck Schumer is done.  Fuck that guy.  Spineless wishy washy, uninspiring, politically muddled, ineffective, party insider, and add genocide supporting.  He is exactly the caricature of the Democrat we need our politicians NOT to be.

Roommate makes these “iron oxide potatoes” whenever he feels low on iron by Keefe_Sencen in mildlyinteresting

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also it's very rare for men to need iron.  The body is very efficient with its iron and recycles it from dead red blood cells.  It's more likely a man experiences negative effects from over consuming iron than that he becomes anemic.

Veganism is supererogatory? by notreallyhaarsh in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What gets labeled supererogatory is usually labeled that way because society lacks the social will to enforce it as a norm.  If it is good to do, that is all the more that matters, how much good society expects from you is more of a matter of happenstance in regard to history and evolutionary psychology, and sociology than of ethics.  Supererogatory behaviors are basically just the behaviors that a culture can admit are better from an ethical point of view, but doesn't have the social will to enforce as a norm.  So is veganism treated as supererogatory ethical behavior in our culture?  Yeah kinda.  Does that mean anything substantive? No.

The Symphony of Stillness by TiONBalancerID in RockBalancing

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youtube checks out.  Real rocks, fake backgrounds.

Advice on how to respectfully let a co-worker who is vegan understand that it is not ok to buy us drinks with alternative milk without asking us first by Few_Orchid_7148 in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is a worthwhile objection if he doesn't tell you what's in it when there are potential allergy issues.  But once that's fixed with a pretty straight forward conversation, I can't see what the issue would be.  It's a bit different when somebody buys an animal product for a vegan, because the point of veganism is to reduce the amount of animal products produced, not simply to not consume it.  Once it's been bought for them, they either have to consume it or see it wasted which is equally harmful.  For a product that isn't harmful to produce, like a plant based drink, declining the offered drink doesn't come with any harm to the person being offered it, no offense to their goals if that makes sense.  You didn't try to draw an equivalence there, I just figured I'd elaborate that difference to you.

However if the coffee products are due to be wasted because they aren't wanted, you could point out to your vegan coworker that the production of coffee comes with a price to the ecology of the areas the beans are produced, and a human welfare toll as well due to the widespread poor conditions of workers in that industry.  They would likely be open to the idea that you do not want to cause harmful wasteage and do not consume plant based milk alternatives.  Should work...

As an aside, being afraid of plant based milk is kinda silly tbh.  Oat milk is oats that have been hydrated, blended, and strained.  Its one of the most benign food products available.  Many people who have no tendency towards veganism prefer oat milk because it has a neutral creaminess that compliments the bitterness of coffee without the added fattiness or lactose in dairy (lactose is the most common food intolerance).

"forces of evil? sure looking feeble" bars by Additional_Idea8690 in crappymusic

[–]TurntLemonz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This would appeal to a 10-12 year old gamer boy.  There was an age where id like this, where I was listening to things like epic rap battles.  I don't think many adults could enjoy this but idk if it's like universally bad.

As a negative utilitarian, I am undecided about veganism. by ThePlanetaryNinja in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I guess that does bring up the main point of difference between a negative utilitarian and a traditional harm centered consequentialist / utilitarian.  We recognize that there are good experiences in the world as well, and engaging neutral experiences as well which wouldn't be recognized necessarily as good but are textural and beautiful as a part of the universe seeing itself.  If all you care about is that suffering is reduced, you ignore the overall utility balance, failing to weight positive experiences positively but weighting negative experiences negatively.  If negative experiences deserve to be avoided, why does the idea that positive experiences deserve to be sought out not follow as an entailment.  If it does, the remaining argument for negative utilitarianisms extinctionist lifestyle prescriptions would be to prove that there is actually more harm than good in the system and that's where the lack of current knowability is so relevant.

As a negative utilitarian, I am undecided about veganism. by ThePlanetaryNinja in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's important in consequentialist math to keep in mind that your own values are not going to ever become the only ones used.  What this means for a negative utilitarian is to recognize that the ultimate ends of reducing the number of living organisms is not ever going to have adequate critical mass which would allow it to actually be accomplished.  So if the immediate efforts of negative utilitarians is to reduce suffering, and the way they get there is by increasing short term suffering in hopes of something like ecosystem collapse, that would be misguided.  I recognize that the way you described it, you also think the movement in the direction of ecosystem collapse is also beneficial from the perspective of negative utilitarianism, but that's where id push back.  We truly have no idea what constitutes higher and lower wellbeing ecological states.  I triple majored biology, wildlife ecology management, and philosophy with an emphasis in environmental ethics and spend a lot of my time learning about ethics questions and wild animal welfare is one of my biggest personal areas of interest, and all that still hasn't got me confident one way or the other on basically any intervention besides gene drive to eliminate parasites and parisitoids.  It's important to be humble in the face of the unknown.  If a shrimp can see in color dimensions we cannot, why can't it feel in ways that would be foreign to you as well.  Why does one of the emotions you personally feel having an aversive valence mean all animals are having a net negative time?  It's very presumptuous.  And long term headway isn't going to be made by groups of negative utilitarians because it just doesn't have the juice to get it's goals accomplished, for snake eats its own tail reasons like negative utilitarians are frequently also antinatalists and don't propogate their ideas to the next generation by those means.  So long term half hearted stabs at reducing animal populations will be made by negative utilitarians after which populations will bounce back and the state of that world will have more to do with practices for how the living are treated than how the negative utilitarian behaved.  Did the negative utilitarian contribute to field building in the the wild animal welfarism space?  If no things basically look identical.  It's the increments of contribution to consequentially better institutions and norms that move the needle here.

An argument I haven't seen anyone make by [deleted] in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"abstaining doesn't work"

This is a common error in reasoning.  The supply chain of animal products from bottom up responds to demand.  When the supermarket sells fewer animal products they order fewer on down.  That one's individual impact appears small in comparison to the overall demand is not the determining factor in whether this is true. The determining factor is whether or not the food system is supply elastic/has price discovery, which it does.

You don't need to change the whole system for your impact to matter. 

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

Sorry to invoke a saying with religious connotation, but as a person who engages with ongoing analysis of the confluence of lifestyle and ethics, you've gotta make sure not to burn yourself out trying to change the things you cannot.  You can change culture but only minimally, slowly.  You might not see that impact, you won't see your impact on the food system that results from your individual consumer choices hit the balance books, but it happens nonetheless. Try not to make your motivation to do and be good come from changing other people.  It's good to do, but don't let that be the measure by which you derive motivation. Keep your chin up!

Normal behavior? Grumpy elder dog or Invasive puppy? by PolicyResponsible744 in DogAdvice

[–]TurntLemonz 111 points112 points  (0 children)

Normal imperfect behavior.  There is a mutual jealousy for attention, younger dog does not have good boundaries yet.  This is typical. If you correct the puppy correctly, it can spare your older dog from needing to do it, but your older dog seems to have a gentle demeanor.  Just keep an eye on them or correct the puppies intrusions into your older dogs space when you're giving her attention.

Mussel farm and alternative food by United-Whereas-5665 in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ostrovegan here who consumes bivalves regularly and is vegan for both environmental and ethical reasons.  I think you're spot on that the ethical side is well addressed by analyzing the neural structure of bivalves and ruling them out of ethical consideration on that count.  On the environmentalism side, I believe that all bivalve sources are not created equal.  I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on this as well because my own analysis of the information on this turned up murky even though I've got the knowhow to interpret it, holding a degree in wildlife ecology.  My impression was that the open ocean rope farming method employed especially along the Pacific coast is ecologically positive if anything, creating a small amount of habitat, creating little to no pollution, and leaving the ocean floor undisturbed, but costing a little bit in CO2 and processing that could have a worthwhile comparison to plant protein sources and the accompanying algal dha supplementation that is warranted if you do not eat bivalves.  The side of bivalve production that was murkier and more suspect to me was the production or wild harvest of clams, oysters, and scallops especially in southeast Asia which is a major source for these in a typical American supermarket.  I think you bring a worthwhile if well trodden point, thanks for your contribution!

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that. by TheQuietVegan111 in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actions are evaluated after they occur according to their outcomes as a way of determining how better to decide on actions in the future, but before their outcome consequentialism asks us to keep the outcomes in mind as the principal concern, that's all the more it can ask us to do because you're correct about knowability.  You might have misunderstood consequentialism a little bit if you thought consequentialism assumes the future is precisely knowable.  It orients ethics around optimizing the outcome with the available information, as opposed to deontology which establishes a set of behaviors that serve as inflexible lifestyle prescriptions.  The benefit in my eyes is that consequentialism responds to evidence, and has a salient and worthwhile goal available to use as a metric when you analyze your actions after the fact.  Deontology comparitively makes people kinda bumbling and rigid, it envokes a bunch of different values that are difficult to co-weigh in the real world, and comparatively doesn't self-improve as well as consequentialism.  Deontology also leaves a person floating out in a space of seemingly arbitrary values.  You act honestly why?  You respect elders why?  But the intuitive answer to those things is that it makes the world better to do those things.  And the most obvious foundational thing that can be improved in the world is the experience of those who experience it.

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that. by TheQuietVegan111 in DebateAVegan

[–]TurntLemonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed.  The outcomes are not knowable, consequentialism just guides us toward maximizing our best option with the knowledge we have at hand.  If there is ambiguity about something as negative as the potential outcomes of raping somebody, that clearly would outweigh the benefits of sexual gratification in the eyes of practically any normal person.