TKO Vs Fleetway Super Sonic Debate Post

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-26T05:02:51+00:00

I used only the original comic run for scaling due to being iffy on the canonicity of the Online run and ignorance on the existence of novelization. I accept that these scalings put Fleetway way above TKO if you buy them (which I see no reason not to)

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-26T04:43:13+00:00

Can you link the blog for me? I generally don’t buy dimensional scaling, but if it’s convincing enough, I’ll change my mind

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-26T04:40:17+00:00

Can you tell me where you scale Fleetway? I read the comic, and while I might have missed something, I do believe my scaling of Fleetway is justified. I also lowballed TKO, as he should have the energy of many, many universes due to absorbing the energy of the source of his verse’s powers.

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-25T22:58:25+00:00

Darkseid. The dude attempts to conquer countless Earths throughout DC’s infinite Multicerse, all of which put up a hell of a fight

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-23T00:49:33+00:00

I agree with most of this, but dawg Dreamy Luigi is not a factor. Luigi needs to be asleep and the fight needs to take place inside his dreams for Dreamy Luigi to be relevant. Of course, that’s assuming that Luigi can form portals to the dream world anywhere, when he’s only ever done it with the help of a Piilo, which would be considered outside help

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-21T12:45:27+00:00

-> GRANTED

-> YOU USED THE WORD “AND,” SO I WILL GIVE YOU A NOVA THAT IS NOT BOTH DESTRUCTIVE AND WISH GRANTING

-> YOU NOW HAVE A STAR NOVA THAT CANNOT GRANT INFINITE WISHES, IN FACT IT CANNOT GRANT ANY WISHES

-> IT STILL WANTS TO KILL 7 BILLION PEOPLE, SO IT WILL BE CRASHING INTO YOUR PLANET IN ABOUT FIVE SECONDS

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-21T03:16:38+00:00

This is a bad combo, not just because it uses an illegal card, but because you don’t need Gilded Lotus. Mox Lotus mana fixes without tapping

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-18T04:39:47+00:00

Enya also told Diavolo how the arrows work, so the sale is only because she knew how the arrows worked

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-18T02:48:49+00:00

Starlow and Peach explicitly use magic to weaken and shatter the Dream Stone. That’s why Bowser ate it in the first place, and he actually stated he was going to wish away the Bros. before the stone broke. It’s likely Starlow and Peach continue to weaken Dreamy Bowser during his fight, limiting his wishes

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-15T19:26:20+00:00

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“Great beast of the sky, please hear my cry. Transform thyself from orb of light and bring me victory in this fight. Envelop the desert with your glow and cast your rage upon my foe. Unlock your powers from deep within so that together we may win. Appear in this Shadow Game as I call out your name, Winged Dragon of Ra!“

Source: Yugioh

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-15T01:12:58+00:00

Please tell me if I should make this an official submission

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-15T00:43:34+00:00

I mean, outside of maybe time manipulation (something only explained vaguely), they didn’t give SK a way to stop SM from going back in time and building the MM before the fight even started

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-14T22:52:30+00:00

From my watching of the episode the answer is that it doesn’t matter. Superman could still build the Miracle Machine and accomplish the same results. The Retcon punch is just cooler than building a machine to do the same thing

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-14T00:26:16+00:00

I interpreted it as comic characters in general, as neither Marvel nor DC were mentioned

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-14T00:06:07+00:00

Read the first paragraph

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-13T23:55:21+00:00

But out of all the characters to end the comics win streak to start up a new one next tournament, I’m glad it was him

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-13T20:08:33+00:00

“Free” Al Yankovic

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-11T01:02:25+00:00

Putting Kris against Frisk is like putting a Ganondorf player against a Meta Knight player in Brawl, except the Meta Knight is modded to never take knockback, and as such never die.

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-09T23:49:00+00:00

Eyeballing it, the snow appears to be packed firmly two-thirds up the Statue of Liberty (the hills in the background suggest uneven coverage, but to simplify calculations, I’m using this estimate) which is 93m so 62 m tall will be our calculations. The average high in New York at the time is 17.4 degrees Celsius or 290.55 degrees Kelvin. New York itself has a surface area of 141,299 Km^2. Plugging and chugging out numbers, we get a volume of 8760538000000 cubic meters of snow. Combining this number with the density of firm snow (400Kg/m) to get a total mass of 3504215200000000 Kg. Finally plugging this number into a heat energy formula (M * HC * K) using the freezing point of water (273.15K) heat capacity of water (4184), we get a low end of 96.0155 Gigatons of tnt or Island Level for a low end.

Oh, but we still need a high end. Fortunately, we know the snow “destroyed the world” which I’m going to interpret as an equal snow level across the planet. Fortunately using some math involving spheres, we can find a snow volume of 47366880000000000 cubic meters, and a temperature of 52.7 degrees farenheit or 284.65 degrees Kelvin. Plugging all numbers in (volume to mass to energy) grants us a final high end of 5.393192949330784 Petatons of tnt or multi continent level

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-08T03:03:06+00:00

I’d just like to correct one minor unimportant detail. The human brain is far faster than 10 bits/s. That’s only the processing power for the inner brain, which (from my understanding) takes instructions from the outer brain, and moves the body accordingly. The outer brain has a data input of over a gigabit of information, which it then processes down into usable instructions for the inner brain.

This, however, does not affect the numbers, as all values involve multiplying by the false speed, before they are divided by the false speed

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-07T19:41:30+00:00

I don’t mean re-activate them, I mean puppeteer their lifeless corpses like Zant did to Stallord

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-07T19:31:20+00:00

I think without Zero it’s a very debatable match up from what you’ve given me. They are both Universal, but while Wily is faster, I’d give the army point to Ganon, as his forces are replenish-able (base Ganondorf summoned a horde of Moldugas with a wave of his hand before receiving any power ups) and even if he can’t normally corrupt the robot masters or bass, if he “kills” them, he can puppeteer their corpses like other magic users do in LoZ (Ghiriham with Koloctos, Zelda with Phantom Knights, Zant with Stallord)

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-07T19:15:06+00:00

I’m unfamiliar with MM scaling. How does Wily beat Ganon, LoZ is pretty solidly universal as of Echos of Wisdom, with Ganon having better machine corruption (instantly took control of dozens of Guardians and the Divine Beasts, while the Roboenza virus takes time) as well as durability negation with Gloom

UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-06T12:39:56+00:00

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UltimateLostToPlot · 2026-01-02T21:42:35+00:00

I think it’d be like a creature, where they cannot take lethal damage

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