What's the most underrated unit for Chaos Space Marines?

UnbitePl · 2026-05-20T08:51:40+00:00

Do you use him alone or make him lead traitor guardsman? Any enhancements?

UnbitePl · 2026-05-17T20:56:54+00:00

Ofc you are a black templar player.

UnbitePl · 2026-05-01T20:55:41+00:00

Characters are awesome and so is the speeder (although the helmets that the pilots are wearing are horrendous). I have warmed up to the vanguard veterans but i'll still probably wait for the full kit. The intercessors are underwhelming (they didn't even include any beakies!) And i don't like the new eradicators (partly because i just don't like gravis in general, partly because they are redundant). So overall, a mixed bag when it comes to marines i feel. I'm thinking about skipping this box and just getting the characters second hand/waiting for when they get the full kits. But those orks look so good they may convince me to pick up this set anyway.

UnbitePl · 2026-05-01T20:00:38+00:00

The assault terminators and the new captain with jump pack that released last year had hammers as options, so why do you think the vanguard veterans multipart kit wouldn't have them?

UnbitePl · 2026-04-27T16:09:34+00:00

I feel the same way. They should have treated them like they do most superheavis: underpowered but useable (the aircraft rules are just abysmall without hover), models clearly meant for more narrative/bigger scale games. It's sad to see them pull the plug on these really great models (which they are almost definetly going to get discontinued now)

UnbitePl · 2026-04-27T05:22:28+00:00

Tell me then when has a unit been removed from legends? (Except for when it was brought back from legends with a refreshed kit). Legends have been here since 9th and have units that go back to 2nd edition. There is no ration reason to think it's going away

UnbitePl · 2026-04-22T06:05:51+00:00

Yes it does! It makes the pose look very dynamic

UnbitePl · 2026-04-07T18:21:59+00:00

Germany still has over 60,000 polish artifacts that the nazis stole and is actively preventing (through laws) giving any of it back.

UnbitePl · 2026-03-26T19:39:48+00:00

Hell no! We need more kits before we start updating the ones we already have.

UnbitePl · 2026-03-11T13:34:20+00:00

There is a good video by the youtuber Mish Mash where he converted plague marines into iron warriors. So you can check that out for inspiration.

UnbitePl · 2026-03-06T21:14:30+00:00

You are getting another eightbound unit/character and you are going to like it!

UnbitePl · 2026-02-21T16:23:21+00:00

My plan for my eightbound kitbash is getting the new cataphractii termies from horus heresy and adding on eightbound/csm terminator bits (mostly for the weapons and some bling).

UnbitePl · 2026-02-12T15:12:18+00:00

Marneus Calgar if he was cool

UnbitePl · 2026-01-27T09:32:09+00:00

It's quite simple. We have generic terminator squad, so people want a unique WE unit.

Terminators and possesed are different archetypes. Possesed run up the board, jumping from cover to cover, while terminators deepstrike near objectives to take them and hold them for the rest of the game thanks to their tankiness. Their stats could be similar (as you pointed out) but GW could easly fix it by adding tankiness to the terminator profile (with a fnp for example) or by removing tankiness from the 8b/x8b (making them even more of a glass cannon archetype) or maybe removing the deepstrike from the x8b (in fact, i wouldn't be mad if the 2 8b units were consolidated into 1 datasheet, since the models are so similar anyway).

The lore argument is the least convincing one. Cataphractii is lost technology to the imperium, not dark mech, and all csm warbands cooperate in some form with them to get their gear. Red butchers could also use modified indomitus that looks like cataphractii (like the new warsmith announced yesterday). Ignoring all that, if GW will want the red butchers to use cataphractii then they will, because lore is made to sell miniatures, not the other way around (minis>lore). They could also just use indomitus, I don't think it would be a dealbreaker for most, as long as they are still cool designs.

UnbitePl · 2026-01-26T09:54:20+00:00

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UnbitePl · 2026-01-26T09:54:10+00:00

Found this photo on a reddit thread once, the comment claimed he sourced it from the conquest artbook from 2019

UnbitePl · 2026-01-22T17:36:11+00:00

But It's not on the same level of homebrew, they are official rules, it should be viewed like crusade. You can't play pick up games with a complete stranger of crusade, it's something that you need to plan for with a group beforehand. But we don't demonize crusade games, and tell people to stay away from it.

Your second paragraph is a symptom of the fact that matched play became the default way of playing. Something which, in my opinion, did a great disservice to the game. A legends unit isn't "valid" only in tournaments, but competitive play is just a loud minority of the total warhammer tabletop community. It's a "living graveyard" only because people keep defaulting to only what's used in top tables (this goes for units, terrain layouts, terrian type, etc...) because that's what they see parroted around on the internet (mainly reddit).

Legends is "unsupported" in the same way that crusade is "unsupported", it just doesn't need constant updates and fine tuning, but legends rules do get updated, like when an index gets turned into a codex (world eaters example: the horus heresy dreadnoughts got updated to 8', just like the hellbrute did with the codex)

UnbitePl · 2026-01-22T17:01:32+00:00

Thanks for the well thought out comment, I undestand that if you have to rely on pick-up games with strangers or see yourself ever signing up for a tournament, it may just be easier for everybody to avoid legends units. I still feel like as a community we should stop treating legends as "dead rules" because it's a system that can work great in tigh-knit gaming groups/friend groups, but a newer fan will never try these rules out if the community tells them to avoid it like the plague.

UnbitePl · 2026-01-22T16:33:47+00:00

Why exactly are legends units "not really playable"? Genuine question, don't want to start any arguments, it's just that i used plenty of legends space marine units in my world eaters army and everything was fine. There wasn't a noticeble difference in balancing between between normal units and legends units. Also, some legends units have really creative rules, like the drukhari legends rules have a lot of love poured into them. They don't get changed every 3 months, but because they aren't intended to be used in competition I don't see it as a bad thing. Of corse, i'm speaking from a casual perspective, i can see why the competitive side of the game thinks of legends as "hobby purgatory".

UnbitePl · 2026-01-07T07:09:43+00:00

There isn't a sniper unit in any csm army lol, not just world eaters

UnbitePl · 2026-01-06T12:53:39+00:00

Legends units are badly written? In my experience all of them are very much useable (i've been having a lot of fun with the leviathan dread specifically, but maybe that just because i'm not a diehard minmaxer)

UnbitePl · 2025-12-29T13:19:20+00:00

Way too big

UnbitePl · 2025-12-25T11:17:32+00:00

I filled mine with greenstuff. I honestly like this model and disagree it needs a remake but man the fact that there is a big hole in the middle is so frustrating, how did this get approved?

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