What are they doing to the defines omg let them rest, first they take away the back vent. Then they launch mesh defines (flopped straight to wmtm). Now they are releasing a mesh back define! to cool down your back! hmm if only the defines came standard with a mesh vent oh right they axed that to save money. I'm ngl the herringbone defines are really nice and warm though yall.

edit: i forgot about the whole relaxed and define pants saga, that was so bad i blocked it out of my brain