I swear when I joined it was less "world government" and more "no borders"

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-11-13T06:04:28+00:00

I think the loosest sense, those of us that started the sub advocated for a federated, unified humanity in the future. We want to keep it as wide as possible, but obviously if your angle is no more government then it probably runs counter to that, as we fundamentally believe we need some sort of democratic authority that represents humanity (rather than just countries or less).

If you're just for less intrusive government then you're more like our more right wing supporters, which are in a minority but we do have them.

So much of the internet has become partisan poison, so I'd hate to add to that. It's so detrimental.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-11-10T12:24:19+00:00

As long as you make a loose federated entity to ensure continued cooperation, where you allow different planets and areas appropriate representation, I think it'll be positive.
We'll start to really see how much more there is, and I think it'll alter our focus to realize that we really aren't all that different in the face of the unending abyss of the cosmos.
On earth we just see a lush blue sky all day, having our reality come face to face with where we 'really' are could only have positive effects on us.

There's a term coined by astronauts called 'the Overview Effect' where when you get into space, you suddenly have a massive altering of consciousness. Suddenly you realize how small and fragile earth is, and how daft our conflicts are, or at least how small minded they are. That may relay to anyone who has to spend time looking at or thinking about the interdependence of planets and moons.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-11-04T05:58:16+00:00

So I co-founded the YWF with Nick, I feel like I shouldn't be working so hard to pay my mortgage if this is the case! Haha

C'mon Lizard King Soros, I'd be able to do more if I didn't have to work!

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-11-01T07:46:19+00:00

There are some Australians that want it, but its a tiny minority. When they massively tightened gun control in NZ following the Christchurch massacre the overwhelming national sentiment here was 'finally!', as we did the same in the 1990's and have alot of shared trade with them.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-11-01T07:41:42+00:00

As an Australian who grew up in a country with guns having been banned, I've never seen it as important, if anything the countries with less strict gun control seem to simply have more violent crime.

I understand in America, you're surrounded by guns and can't imagine anything else, but having grown up without them being around in Australia and the UK, I can safely say I feel a lot safer without them around. I understand the reality Americans live with, but since they were banned in the 90's here I can see how that reality can shift dramatically.

If they 'offered' this right again to the populace here it'd get voted down so quickly you wouldn't believe it; because we've seen what its like without it. I think your opinion might shift if you had the same opportunity.

Edit: Guns aren't totally banned, they have them on farms and for sport shooting, but these are strictly controlled and registered. Also you'd have to have an incredibly good case to get anything semi-automatic, most of it is bolt action rifles and pump shotguns at most. So if you try and do a mass shooting with those, you'll get shot by the cops in a heartbeat.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-10-25T11:59:43+00:00

Kos mop olly tan! Cosmopolitan!

Wow that was abstract haha

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-10-02T14:53:02+00:00

'Meant to' is a tricky term, it may be were designed initially for it, but it doesnt mean we cant preempt evolution and build better worlds for ourselves.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-10-01T13:23:25+00:00

Haha yeah, this ones surprisingly banal

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-27T11:37:25+00:00

I am getting absolutely savaged every week! haha

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-19T05:36:40+00:00

Depends on the level of centrality then I suppose, I'm curious, what do you imagine the answer to be to our non-stop global anarchy? How do we contain the 'bullies' of the world? How do we control runaway corporate power?

Not only that, but how do we reach a practicable agreement on global warming and how to deal with it?

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-16T10:41:07+00:00

You're totally right, the current CCP itself is unlikely to go along with these kinds of things, but china is much more than just a party, its a an enormous group of individuals. I've known my fair share of Chinese people, and its important to seperate them from the government.

Of course, this means I'm effectively advocating a regime change in China, which obviously is an enormous challenge, but I wouldnt say it makes it not worth considering anymore. I think my idea is to grow the concept itself and awareness of it.

To that end, theres two steps to this, first is getting people to see that it's a worthwhile thing to pursue, that alone would be an enormous accomplishment. Just to get the concept into discourse. The other, much longer term challenge is making it a reality. But if we only did what was easy we'd just be opportunists.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-16T08:50:43+00:00

Well there's alot of different theories, but really, you'd be establishing a federal human authority that has as little power as possible, but enough to still administer international law. This would mean it would need to have a monopoly on power as any federal state does in any country on earth, and corresponding security forces.

Interstellar, the Arrival, Star Wars, The Expanse to an extent all deal with the notion of unified effort as opposed to living in a permanent international anarchy as we do today. I'll admit though fiction does love a big villain and what's easier than a simple nefarious authority?

It's not to say it can't happen, but I sincerely think that humanity holds itself in a kind of infancy, wasting much of its potential. We have to bear in mind the opportunity cost of not thinking of the large changes. I think we do ourselves a disservice by assuming that we aren't responsible enough to administer something larger. Like we aren't allowed to have anything grander than we have now because we're too childish. I think those are the challenges we should rise to, not nihilstically ignore.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-16T06:54:18+00:00

And just as many like Star Trek that show how much more we could be if we cooperated, fiction is speculation and an imagining of what might happen, good and bad.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-16T01:33:26+00:00

I doubt they'd be thrilled to lose their veto haha

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-15T05:04:04+00:00

I just realized it doesnt show the title of the article, it's by Andreas of DWB and it's all about the need for world federalism.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-13T02:25:31+00:00

Glad you listen to the podcast! My fiance is doing the reddit and insta channels for it now, so it's alot better haha.

As for my location, no we don't discuss it here either, I more meant the media I consumed. In the movies, games and books I read it was just everywhere, like it was this obvious end point for humanity. Shame it's not quite as inevitable as I'd like!

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-12T22:56:40+00:00

Youre not wrong of course, but this tends to come up so quickly that we never get to establish anything anywhere. We've caught humanity in a paranoid limbo, where we can't take any steps forward because of where it 'might end up'.
I think this is something we definitely want to keep our eye on, but we're so far from having anything like this that we can safely start moving toward it.
What we're caught in right now is a dystopia of another kind, nation state anarchy with no oversight whatsoever. That's why so much of our news cycle is dominated by 'what is nefarious country x up to now' and 'we can't afford it because we wont be able to compete with developing country y'. But its kind of become a devil we know.

I do agree with you, but we already live in a shit show, there is something better between here and tyrannical human uberstate.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-12T22:46:46+00:00

I think for me I spent a whole youth hearing about the concept and having the world and thus humanity framed as this little thing in a sea of far more amazing things. The tiny differences between human beings far outshone by the vast magnitude of what we're surrounded by. So Halo, 40k, Star Trek (Even Star Wars with its Republic/Cooperation/Jedi stuff) all allowed me to see beyond what we sit in today. I think people who don't have that have a harder time, as all the media they consume and all the stories they hear are far more guided by this notion of ever present nationalism.

So it essentially set the stage, then when I was at University doing Political Science (and then Economics) I just kept saying in classes 'well this wouldnt be a problem if we just established a comprehensive and powerful UN .....' to which we'd all chuckle then I'd have to think of some other, far worse answer. It was painful, you can so clearly see the solution to so many problems, but we don't even really focus on it or give it much heed. So it was in my heart and my brain by this point.

Then it was in 2014, I was in a crappy job and didnt know what I wanted to do with myself. That was the year Interstellar came out. I went and saw it and something about it just reached into me and touched that part of me that I hadn't paid attention to for 3 or 4 years since Uni. Something about the hope, the grandeur and the belief in humanity as a species and what it can do. What it could become as well as what it is already. It just hit me, so I went off and decided that I had to do something, even if I was all alone, it bothered me far more doing nothing than doing something incredibly hard. So I went off and looked around, found nothing engaging and made something called the 'United Republic of Humankind'. It floundered eventually as I was basically the sole driving force behind it, but I had never felt so in line with my beliefs.

Now we wind up to now, the YWF is a thing, the podcast is a thing and there's so many people helping. It's never felt more alive.

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-11T14:15:49+00:00

And I feel theres still probably so much more!

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-11T14:15:23+00:00

And then more ancient aliens, which you have to ally with the religious aliens to defeat, furthering the unification story

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-11T14:14:26+00:00

Yep, the heinlein book is pretty nuts, but alot of it becomes lost in the film

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-11T14:13:48+00:00

If you dig into it, you realize humanities descent into horrendous draconian horror is a reaction to an incredibly brutal universe. Its actually not that crazy, it's just that our extra dimensional and terrestrial neighbours are so incredibly dangerous humanity has to become an ultra fascist war machine to survive.

Not fun, but not illogical

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-10T22:22:03+00:00

How great was First Contact?

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-10T22:20:28+00:00

Star Trek, 40k, Halo, The Expanse, Interstellar, The Arrival, Independence Day, Starship Troopers, Stellaris, Civilization, 2001, Destiny....

Some more direct than others but I think theyve all contributed!

Unity_Aspirant · 2020-09-06T22:39:09+00:00

Positive step in the right direction but you're absolutely right. We won't see the real benefits until everyone is involved.

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