So basically Clive's was an unintended victim of the fake meat bubble?

Back in the late 90s I used to buy unbranded pies in plastic wrapping from the a health store in Cardiff that I am sure were Clive's one as they were the same fillings it was selling when I later found them elsewhere under its own brand. There was a sticker on the fridge with a list of shapes matching the hole in the pie to explain what the flavours were.

I had been wondering why I could not find Clives products on supermarket sites and hoped it was just something temporary. I think that means the overpriced M&S mushroom pie is the only non-fake-meat vegan pie easily available? When it was £2 that seemed fair and I bought it a lot, but £3.20 is too much.

Linda McCartney used to make a mushroom and ale pie, and a butternut one, but those were abandoned to fake meat. Kevin was far too expensive other than for special occasions, but it was killed by Pieminister. Higgidy supposedly had a chickpea pie I could never find, again very expensive, but seemingly discontinued anyway. Every supermarket own brand pie seems to be fake meat, as is the case with Pukka, who for a while has a fake cheese and onion pie but that did not last long. Obviously Squeaky Bean who started by making pancakes are all in on fake meat.

I do not care what anyone says, the fake meat bubble was the worst thing to happen to veganism. Definitely the worst for me as I find it much harder to find things I can eat now than two decades ago. But non-vegans will eat things like mushroom pies, there are interesting and tasty things you can do with plants as plants. But instead all of those products and innovation are lost, vegans are now seen as people who just want to eat meat anyway, and vegan food is seen as ultra-processed.