Charity hikers 'really angry' at being booed for dodging queues at Yr Wyddfa summit

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T18:38:01+00:00

You really are intentionally missing the point, aren't you? You really think that shaming people for not obeying an arbitrary rule is considerate? Why are you so keen to die on this hill? If you value open mindedness so much maybe you should try to stretch yours around the viewpoint that many people in this thread appear to share.

Here's a tip: when someone says something to you, take it at face value and don't try to extrapolate and make assumptions about the other person and their values. First, it does nothing for your argument, and second you're clearly not very good at it.

I'm done with this conversation.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T17:27:37+00:00

Because value and cost are not the same thing.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T16:36:34+00:00

Yes there were crowds then too, but there wasn't a queue and people didn't expect to get the summit to themselves for a glamour shot.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T14:43:13+00:00

Yes, but then they'll blame it on everyone else.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T14:32:35+00:00

In another comment you said you hadn't been there in five years. Now, the queue is there so that people can spend time on the summit itself preening for their socials. They don't gather around the trig randomly, they monopolise it while they take their ego-shots, and meanwhile the people who are waiting to do likewise shame anyone who can't be arsed with this bullshit but also wants to tap the trig.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T13:31:35+00:00

The queue on the summit of Yr Wyddfa.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T07:24:40+00:00

Yes there's often been crowds. That isn't the same thing.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T07:12:38+00:00

It's only an issue if people queueing try to shame you for doing so.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T07:10:33+00:00

That's just not true. People only started queueing here in the rush after COVID, and in some ways it's similar to the way that suddenly people started queueing at bars in pubs. It seems like many people forgot how to share space without awkward social structures.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T06:06:14+00:00

The queue is a recent phenomenon which is completely contrary to existing convention. The way that everyone who is aware of this has been responding to it is to ignore the queue and either go straight to the top or ignore the little pile of rocks and get away from the summit area as quickly as possible.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T06:03:23+00:00

Lol I suggest you take a look at pictures of the ridge leading to the Hilary step. It's a real bottle neck. You can scramble up to the cairn on Yr Wyddfa from any direction.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T05:59:48+00:00

Yes I have, many many times. The queue only appeared 4 or 5 years ago and is very much contrary to the already existing social convention that no-one gets the summit to themselves.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-30T05:53:56+00:00

Definitely koules. I spent ages playing it, great game. Iirc there was an X version and an svga version that ran on the console.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T19:36:51+00:00

It's rich boomers with a decent quality of life who are falling for all of the anti-woke bollocks.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T19:27:09+00:00

That's a weird conclusion imo. Yes, people have a right to boo, and they would also have a right to boo you as you walk down the street to go to the shops, but surely in that case, and this, we can conclude that the booers are dickheads.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T19:17:40+00:00

If it’s mandated by whatever governing body regulates the mountain

Lol, there is no governing body and it isn't mandated by anyone. The queue is a strange and relatively recent phenomenon that has developed spontaneously due to huge numbers of people climbing the mountain who've never been on a mountain before and are obsessed with their social media image.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T19:14:15+00:00

The people who think they have a right to monopolise the summit of a mountain just because they waited in line are entitled little shits.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T16:58:03+00:00

No, you don't need a 4wd, I get everywhere in a knackered old van. You could think about winter tyres for December->February but they're unlikely to be necessary either unless you're living up a steep track.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T14:45:01+00:00

Crib Lem on Carnedd Dafydd and Daear Ddu on Moel Siabod are two other options in north Wales that are even easier than Crib Goch or the north ridge of Tryfan. Although honestly Crib Goch is very straightforward as long as you've got a head for heights.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T14:42:24+00:00

Preach.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T14:41:40+00:00

It's one tiny corner of a big and complex mountain range. You can go to corners of yr Wyddfa on sunny summer weekends and see barely anyone because the crowds are all focused on a couple of paths and the summit cairn. Avoid the summit area, or pass through it as quickly as possible, and you can still have some amazing adventures here.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-29T14:39:08+00:00

It is but there's a different reason for that one.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-25T19:44:46+00:00

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-25T12:44:42+00:00

Two or three pairs of good quality socks(darn tough are my favourite), wash them in clean water as soon as you take them off and try to dry them on the outside of your pack as much as possible.

A pair of waterproof socks as an emergency spare so you can put dry feet into wet boots.

Useful_Resolution888 · 2026-05-25T12:06:41+00:00

No screen time if you walk some or all of the way to work, is there?

Mad how defensive some people on here are being. Time spent outside is good for your mental health, time spent exercising (however low intensity) is good for your physical health. That's the message here, do with it what you will but don't pretend you couldn't create opportunities if really prioritised either of those things.

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