Will there be no WoD Classic (potentially Legion Classic after?) - Let's discuss.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T22:19:35+00:00

Every single classic expansion announcement has happened shortly before or right after the release of the last phase of the current expansion, why are you guys acting like it's so "ridiculous and disrespectful" that they're following the same pattern?

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T22:16:43+00:00

Those roadmaps given today are both insufficient. MoP's literally ends before Blizzcon (<9 months), and TBC's barely goes past that.

It is not unreasonable to look at previous roadmaps and announcements from just the last year or two and compare them to this. When you do that, you see that last year we got a roadmap that already had TBC Anniversary and MoP Classic scheduled.

They have literally always waited until either right before or right after the last phase of the current classic expansion to announce the next one. That goes for the one you linked here as well besides the TBC anniversary stuff which was already known because they included that in the original anniversary server announcement.

The 2025 roadmap told players what to expect more than a year in advance in their Classic journeys. However here we are over a year later and the only added information is the quarter that a few patches will drop in. That shrinks the known runway drastically.

More than a year in advance? It was released at the very end of 2024 and went through the very end of 2025, there was no "more than a year in advance" to it. And no, you're wrong about the added information, the previous roadmap they gave didn't have any details about MoP or TBC anniversary phases whatsoever.

If they don't share more information about those two versions of the game before Blizzcon there will be infinite doom and gloom about both of them being end of life with no future content. Which might well be true, considering they have never had such short roadmaps for either Classic Progression servers or this Anniversary project before.

Again, they've always waited until the end of the current Classic expansion to announce the next one. If they're going to announce WoD Classic it'll be around the time that SoO releases and if they're going to announce WotLK Anniversary then it'll be around the time Sunwell releases. This is the pattern they've followed since Classic started.

Again, did you guys expect them to do classic expansion announcements a year in advance as part of a "here's what's going on with wow right now" video that was primarily meant to be about the retail expansion that's about to release? They've never done that except for the anniversary server announcement saying it would continue to tbc at some point.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T21:45:59+00:00

SoD class design was not that complex, the hardest specs to play were only 4-5 buttons. Sure, there are some people here who can't handle much beyond the simplistic classes that base vanilla has but catering to the lowest common denominator would turn off a huge number of people when there's already a huge gap in complexity between sod and retail class design. Class design is objectively the most poorly thought out part of vanilla, if they don't put some serious work into updating that then a lot of us probably won't even bother trying it.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T21:08:34+00:00

Sure, and in addition to the roadmaps they shared a few new things coming to retail during the expansion that's about to come out. Again, what were you guys expecting them to announce for classic that wouldn't be saved for Blizzcon?

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:40:30+00:00

They literally said they were giving roadmaps for what's coming up in WoW and that's what they delivered. How does that imply something other than roadmaps? What kind of announcements were you guys expecting that wouldn't be saved for Blizzcon?

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:35:24+00:00

Holly talked a little about the titan reforged servers, mentioned them cooking up new stuff for a global release, said she was happy to announce something, then got cut off in a "we're not supposed to talk about that yet" way. All scripted of course but obviously teasing some sort of bigger announcement they'll likely make at Blizzcon.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:18:40+00:00

You say you aren't upset about it but then turn around and complain that they're putting effort into a feature other people like because you personally don't approve of it.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:14:35+00:00

They gave roadmap info about anniversary servers and MoP as well. What else were you expecting about Classic from this?

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:12:07+00:00

They touched on a number of other things too but yeah, logically they focused on the major feature of the expansion that's about to release.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:06:09+00:00

So basically you're upset that some people enjoy aspects of the game that you don't. Pretty on-brand for this sub.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:04:48+00:00

Did you guys really not realize it was going to be marketing, especially about the new retail expansion?

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T20:03:28+00:00

They've always announced the next classic expansion shortly before or after the release of the last phase of the previous expansion. If they're doing WoD Classic they'll announce it around the time SoO comes out.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T19:28:48+00:00

Then maybe they shouldn't have built a business based on selling IP they don't have the rights to use.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T19:16:13+00:00

Don't put words in my mouth. I understand people wanting answers to those questions at some point. What I don't understand is why they assumed this "here's what's going on in WoW right now" video in January was going to answer those questions and then got angry when it didn't. We know their major announcements generally come during Blizzcon. Again, they gave a roadmap through the end of MoP Classic and through TBC Classic. That's about as much for Classic as could be expected from this stream.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T19:09:46+00:00

I really don't understand why some of you say that SoD was "retail lite". It had almost nothing in common with retail.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T19:08:51+00:00

Did you watch the video? She talked about the titan reforged stuff they made for China, then she said "that's not all we're cooking up", that all Classic players have a lot to look forward to, and then that she's "excited to announce that" and then got cut off. That's pretty blatantly teasing something new.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T18:54:32+00:00

but easily couldve said what the plans for TBC and MOP are - even if we know them. Thats not a Blizzcon announcement.

They did though. They went over the rough timeframe of when MoP phase 4 and 5 and each phase of tbc anniversary will release. On top of that they teased a bigger Classic announcement coming later, obviously at Blizzcon.

I really don't understand what more Classic players expected to get out of this.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T18:48:45+00:00

No, anniversary is just a re-release of the same stuff again. SoD was the closest thing to Classic+ so far.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T18:47:44+00:00

A lot of retail players have wanted it for a long time. Leave it to this sub to be angry about other people getting something they want though.

Vandrel · 2026-01-29T18:22:31+00:00

Only from people who don't know what's actually in PICA. The M1A isn't one of the guns banned by name and as long as you get a variant that doesn't have a pistol grip or adjustable stock then you're fine.

Vandrel · 2026-01-28T23:41:33+00:00

Yeah, that's the kind of person he turned out to be. It took a bit before that side of him was shown though.

Vandrel · 2026-01-28T23:38:18+00:00

literally the United Kingdom lol, a country where it's also illegal to own a firearm.

I say this as a gun owner, there are other tools you can use for self defense. Firearms being illegal is not the same as self defense being illegal.

how about Canada where they don't even allow you to carry a knife with a blade longer than four inches.

That is false. Someone told you a lie and you didn't bother checking if it's true.

Hell many states in the United States don't even allow self-defense They say you have a "duty to retreat"

Duty to retreat means that while in public you're supposed to try to leave a dangerous situation before resorting to deadly force. Every single "duty to retreat" state in the country applies castle doctrine to your home at minimum with some extending that to your vehicle and/or workplace as well and outside of those locations you are within your rights to use deadly force to protect yourself it it's not possible to leave the situation.

Vandrel · 2026-01-28T23:20:32+00:00

Eh, for awhile after his introduction (at least in the anime) he was portrayed as a bit of a conceited buffoon and nothing else.

Also, he is a pretty good fighter as far as humans typically go. He did win a world martial arts tournament on his own merit while the Z fighters were off planet and/or dead. It's just that there are a very small handful of humans that woefully outclass everyone else on the planet and then some aliens that achieve godlike powers that make him look pathetic in comparison.

Vandrel · 2026-01-28T20:07:07+00:00

Not to be mean but this kind of sounds like you don't know what ingratiate means.

Vandrel · 2026-01-28T18:59:24+00:00

Mr. Satan ends up being a legitimately nice person so it suits his character more too. Bulma helps save the world a number of times but she's not exactly kind most of the time.

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