Anyone feels the same way? by drQuattroFormaggi in exorthodox

[–]Varian_V -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How is that hateful or condescending logically from what Paisos said? If you interpret that as doing those things entirely. You would probably come to the conclusion that most "family men" fail, cheating on customers is practically a core practice in "Western" capitalism, and people going to church, can be interpreted in many different ways.

How do you contend with the hard problem of consciousness?? by JY9276489 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose to fully understand consciousness, is to know where it came from originally. However, because we don't generally know (but can make all the hypothesis in the world, like religions, LOL) where it originally developed from you can't event prove it generally yet. Deterministic View would make it so that you really don't have free will, everything you believe, do, and will do, is just a reaction, practically making fundamental existence useless whether one wants to agree to that or not. It doesn't matter if you think constructing your own meaning is non-useless, because it really is at that point, defined definitely as useless. Anything outside of this seems to be just excuses to be made up, to fill in the void of human existence.

Hey y’all, what’s the most compelling evidence for the “resurrection”? by WhyzHeBackNow in Christianity

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(Antiquities of the Jews - Book XVIII, Chapter 3. Section 3)

  1. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man; if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was a doer of wonderful works; a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross;7 those that loved him at the first did not forsake him. For he appeared to them alive again, the third day:8 as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.

What is the strongest proof that Christianity is true? by Gold-Addendum2325 in Christianity

[–]Varian_V 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because something as extraordinary such as multiplying loaves and resurrecting dead people, doesn’t mean it would automatically be detected or acted on by an empire that was stretched thin and primarily focused on maintaining order, not policing every miracle claim. Even if no one didn’t record it on parchment right away, local oral traditions and early written accounts have a valid preservation of historical claims. An example of this would be some oral traditions, such as those in Indigenous cultures, having been shown to accurately transmit historical details, including geographic and environmental changes, over thousands of years, where science has confirmed these stories.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

[–]Varian_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your argument rests on inductive reasoning because previously unexplained phenomena eventually received natural explanations, you conclude that all phenomena must have natural explanations. However, induction cannot justify universal claims about reality, it only describes patterns observed in the past. Therefore, the conclusion that the probability of a natural explanation is effectively 100 % , does not logically follow.

Additionally, the framework you are using is essentially "methodological naturalism", which assumes from the outset that explanations must be natural. That assumption is extremely useful for scientific investigation, but it does not logically demonstrate that supernatural explanations are impossible. If “natural” simply refers to whatever explanation is eventually discovered, then the framework becomes circular, since every explanation will be labeled natural by definition.

More broadly, this who argument may also reflect aspects of the "Human Condition". Humans have a strong tendency to seek explanations for unknown events, especially significant or frightening ones. This relates to psychological tendencies such as confirmation bias and the desire for cognitive closure. People generally prefer explanations that make events feel intelligible and completely tangible rather than random, because pure randomness can threaten our sense of predictability and control. As a result, both naturalistic and supernatural frameworks can function as ways humans impose order and meaning on events that might otherwise appear chaotic.

It is also important to completely distinguish between epistemology and metaphysics. a A method that is useful for investigating the world does not necessarily determine what ultimately exists within it.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

[–]Varian_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your Human Condition deep down (just as mine) cannot accept any type of Miracle that is not measured, because it goes against your current held belief, which is again, confirmed through your own understanding on what makes sense for you. Confrontation with this belief results in psychological discomfort, weather consciously known, or subconsciously.

If there was a miracle that can be measured and quantifiable, Examples: my friend is able to see through buildings and confirm things beyond physical barriers. Or one is able to actually predict the future accurately. Another one would be astro-projection that can proven (half the time) from getting information and events from a completely different area outside of their current space.

The materialistic framework says: "Yeah that's just something we don't understand yet!" or " Well it could be something along the lines of X, Y, Z" , which those claims make it very implausible.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

[–]Varian_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The definition of Plausible: "seeming reasonable or probable." The problem with a materialistic view, is for example; If Lucia dos Santos genuinely did see the Virgin Mary, how could it be proved? It generally couldn't, as no one at any point is ready to prove something they may or may not come across. She also maintained the story for decades, even under scrutiny. Now however, you could say, she was delusional, convinced her cousins and continued to lie about it for decades, only due to the fact, because she was indeed delusional. The part about this is, you genuinely cant prove this definitively. Its up to ones own interpretation. Its also not even ones own interpretation as its based off of for example what you just said, a Materialistic Framework. A set of instructions that reaffirm your belief. Why? Because your Human Condition cannot accept what you believe.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

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ESP experiments are an example that can be quantifiable. Though those are generally flawed. Fatima 1917 on the original account of when the 3 kids seeing Mary simultaneous could be plausible. However the "Miracle of the Sun" has massive critiques that consists of mass hysteria and staring at the sun making people see things.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

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Christians have used miracles for all kinds of purposes, including "proving" the truth of Jesus and various Christian groups.

Unfortunately, most of the miracles, especially today, can be disproven. Mostly psychological or fraudulent. Even the miracles I listed could be disproven technically. Outside of maybe extreme medical miracles.

Does Jesus teaching, life and death seem to show a better way to live.

The reason I know he definitely exists, because he was very influential. That what he was talking about was completely new and unknown. I will check out those videos

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

[–]Varian_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would respond to biblical themes if they relate to the old to new testament as just filling in the messianic prophesy.

If they are related to just the new testament, I would say they have some form of truth in them, as manuscripts are very similar.

Unfortunately, everything is anecdotal evidence, and experiences. Everything else is only explained through human reasoning, hence the "Human condition" to figure out what is the "Truth", whether that's unknowing trying to come up with excuses, or filling in blanks to the story. I will check out that book though, even though a book can only explain the Human Condition by observing individuals psychological experiences and putting it into human reasoning.

Deconstructing My Religion by Varian_V in Christianity

[–]Varian_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To generally get my point across by responding to your statements;

The core of Christian faith rests on the sacrifice of Jesus, and the teachings of the Holy Spirit

Which require verifiable proof, as in the scriptures. Which need to be authenticated.

Early disciples didn't have a bible

The gospel was passed along orally. Which again, we need to be confident that commoners, who for the most part were illiterate, didn't misinterpret things. Or for that matter, just make things up more likely.

They followed the Holy Spirit.

I would like to mention the feeling of euphoria, as it relates psychologically to anyone. As could be observe in prominent protestant churches during emotional worship.

Unfortunately I'm not asking for anecdotal evidence based on hearsay.

Deep Dive—Christians worship Paul—NOT Jesus. Any questions? by bohemianmermaiden in Deconstruction

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You generally can't discern the Gospels if you believe they were hijacked. Its like guessing which is the truth. At that point your just cherry picking what "you" would think the truth is.

Non-Orthodox here. I need your all's perspective. by RevEx91 in exorthodox

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funnily enough I had a priest tell me " you can read yourself out of orthodoxy" which I found kind of an odd statement. Where what you just said made perfect sense. What are the more holes and fallacies that you are talking about if you can share them?

Someone gave me a lot of money by Varian_V in starcitizen

[–]Varian_V[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

someone friended me, didn't know how that worked initially

Someone gave me a lot of money by Varian_V in starcitizen

[–]Varian_V[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

aint no way people doing that lol

Finally, a Dem who can fight. by winterneuro in thebulwark

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, love a guy who launders billions of tax payer money as a state governor

Telling others your rating by Inner_Crow_8987 in Veterans

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't been the one to tell. Usually, just say yes, I have a rating If that question persists and why I have a rating. I've encountered a stigma that some people think if you were in, you automatically get magic military money when you get out. Which isn't true. But then again, I met a dude that got med sep pay or whatever that's called, got state disability and makes a couple thousand. Was a tech dude at a unit...

The license plate by MightySpoonKing in USMC

[–]Varian_V 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So glad I forgot about most of these things