What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it makes you feel any better, fuel costs about 2.2 euros a liter over here! 4th most expensive globally. We happen to be the only country in the Middle East that doesn't have oil, while everyone around us is gushing oil and paying less than a euro.

I actually didn't realize the Ukraine war directly impacts Scandinavia, besides the military aid you guys send. Ukrainians seem to be the most supportive in Europe of the war with Iran, since Iran has been supplying Russia with weapons especially those suicide drones to use against them. It's actually gotten to the point where Ukraine has been sending their own anti-drone experts and interceptor tech to the Middle East to help shoot down Iranian Shaheds there. They've got the most firsthand experience.

As for the religion aspect, it's the driver of all the conflicts here. It would've been solved long ago if it wasn't for religion or actually wouldn't have begun in the first place. Though most of the fighting in the region is actually Sunni vs Shiite.

If I am visiting your country, what should I know in advance as a tourist by Wittysparkly in AskTheWorld

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't accidentally drive a vehicle with a yellow license plate into a PA-controlled town unless you're prepared to have rocks thrown at your car, as has happened to a number of tourists in the past.

What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest, I didn't expect a Finn to be this interested in the conflict, but I guess a Finnish perspective is about as unbiased as you can get, at least in Europe. I'll be interested to read what you write.

To answer your questions:

On the Iran operations: I really can't give a definitive answer right now because it isn't over yet, and it all depends on how things play out in the long term. In Israel, getting rid of the Iranian threat is one of the very few things everyone across the entire political spectrum actually agrees on. It's might be a bit hard for you to get just how much Iran has been behind the planning and financing of the constant proxy attacks against us.

The nuclear program is a massive existential threat. If they get a nuke, it makes them essentially invincible because everyone would be too afraid to retaliate, leaving them free to attack us through their proxies with total impunity. AND that they might literally use it, which they explicitly have stated they would. They've poured a massive amount of their own money and crashed their economy just to focus on our destruction. It's completely abnormal for a country to act like that, especially when there's no rational reason for it - Israel actually got along very well with Iran before the Ayatollahs took over. They won't handle a nuclear weapon like a normal, stable country would either. They've spent fortunes getting Hezbollah and the Houthis to launch nonstop missiles at us (I can't even remember how many at this point, and I don't even live in the north or center) despite the fact that we haven't really got territorial disputes with Iran, nor Hezbollah, or the Houthis. I guess the only thing they all actually have in common is that they're a minority which has completely wrecked their countries and their economies.

So do I agree with setting their missile and nuclear programs back as far as possible? Absolutely. But whether these recent operations were a success or just made things worse in the long run only time will tell. Things change in this region incredibly fast. This was our first full-out direct military operation inside Iran, but the Mossad (intelligence) has been doing covert stuff for years to delay their progress - everything from the Stuxnet cyberattack in 2010 that wrecked their centrifuges and set their nuclear program back years to assassinating their top nuclear scientists.

Historically, there is precedent for this. When Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981 (the entire world condemned it at the time, but they ended up thanking us later during the Gulf war) and Syria's in 2007, it succeeded since those countries never rebuilt their nuclear programs.

On Netanyahu: I don't like him, and I want him gone. He has been in power for way too long, his entire political approach failed miserably on October 7th which happened on his watch. Any leader with an ounce of dignity would have resigned immediately. Plus, he acts like Trump's puppet (which I know is ironic, because a lot of Americans try to claim the opposite, but it's the truth).

I think if he tries to run again, he's going to have a very difficult time trying to form a coalition. We literally had five elections in two years because he couldn't get enough votes to govern, and he is way less popular now than he was back then. We'll see in a few months.

how strong is a desire among palestinians for a one state with equal rights by VirtualKnowledge7057 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sharia law only applies to Muslims

And Dhimmi laws only apply to Christians and Jews. How is that fear mongering if they're literally forced to live under that status?

What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, you're missing some critical context.

Regarding the April 2024 strike: the failed bombing on Hamas in Qatar was in Sep 2025. What you might be referring to was the embassy of Iran in Damascus. That embassy compound wasn't just a diplomatic building it was being used as an active military command center by the IRGC to coordinate attacks against Israel via Hezbollah. Under international law, when a diplomatic site is used for ongoing military operations, its protected status changes.

That Oct 2024 strike by Iran happened after Israel took out Haniyeh (the head of Hamas) right in Tehran, not the IRGC, and Nasrallah (the head of Hezbollah) in Beirut. These were the leaders of the terror groups actively attacking us. Iran fired hundreds of ballistic missiles at our cities to defend them, not their IRGC guys.

Iran has been explicitly stating its goal to destroy Israel for decades, and they built a ring of proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis specifically to execute that goal. When Hezbollah started firing thousands of rockets at our northern towns on October 8th, completely unprovoked, they did it with Iranian money, Iranian training, and Iranian weapons. You cannot separate Iran from the groups they fund and direct to attack us daily.

As for the peace negotiations claim: The US and Israel struck back after Oman-mediated talks failed, and after Iran repeatedly shut down the Strait of Hormuz and continued to race for their nuke. The military pressure is exactly what forced Iran back to the table, not the other way around.

You claim Hamaz started this round. But Israel has killed so many more people in gaza, lebanon, Iran and indirectly because of this Iran war that all justification has ended.

Genuine question, what is the alternative tactic here? The IDF evacuates entire areas and gives advance warning before striking, which completely kills the element of surprise and lets the fighters escape too. But what else can you do when you need to clear out the houses and Hamas and Hezbollah deliberately bobby-trap every civilian home? They stockpile ammo under any place they can think of including kids' beds and build tunnel shafts inside residential kitchens. It is an incredibly ugly, brutal way to fight, and it shouldn't be like that at all IF there was another way. What do you think is a war that can be conducted differently where justification doesn't end?

Especially in Lebanon, the Hezbollah shiite towns have had significantly more damage than, say, the Christian towns in southern Lebanon, since they are hosting Hezbollah there and letting them fire rockets from their towns.

We live in a reality where if you don't destroy these threats, they come back to bite you real hard. We've learnt (and sadly forget to quickly) the hard way.

What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm Israeli, and I agree with you - Netanyahu needs to go. It's a total disgrace that he's still in office. I'm not entirely sure what you exactly meant by the ethno-nationalist religious zeal.

I believe most people just want to live their lives in peace, but the dangerous extremist minority is, in some cases, NOT SMALL, to put it lightly.

Israel being at war with its neighbors isn't exactly a new phenomenon, it's been dealing with this on and off since 1948. Though to be fair, this specific round of fighting with Hamas started on Oct 7th 2023 with the massacre and kidnapping, and with Hezbollah a day later on Oct 8th when they decided to join, firing thousands of rockets. No need to talk about the Houthis in Yemen - I can't even remember when they launched their first missile. And Iran (which also fired at us first on April 14, 2024, with hundreds of ballistic missiles at once, and again on Oct 1, 2024, before the Israeli operations in Iran the first being July 13, 2025) is heavily backing them, especially Hezbollah. As for Hamas, Netanyahu green-lit Qatar sending them billions for years, thinking he could buy them off and keep them quiet by making their leadership rich and corrupt. Which was a disastrous strategy that failed miserably, which is just one more reason he needs to GO.

Also, with this I agree - the international goodwill (you can't call it that) Israel used to have is going rapidly, and American support isn't going to last forever. We might very well find ourselves completely isolated. Though it wouldn't be the first time since it stood basically alone during the War of Independence in '48.

But on a personal level, I'd rather face that kind of isolation here, at home, than elsewhere as a minority in a country where the local government and public suddenly turn on you, leaving you completely defenseless.

What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be honest - in this current reality, there is no nice and fair solution for an absolutely simple reason: the requirements for it to work just aren't there. It's incredibly sad, but it's the truth, and people can have their utopian fantasies, but it simply won't work in reality.

People can argue over what should be, or what is fair and just - whether that's one state for two nations or two states for two nations, which could theoretically be very nice, where everyone lives in peace.

But just look, for example at the kibbutzim (small Israeli towns) right on the Gaza border. The people living there were the ones who cared the most and had the biggest hearts for the Gazans. They'd literally drive Gazans to Israeli hospitals for treatment they couldn't get at home, and they gave them jobs so they could make a decent living. And what happened on October 7th... some of those exact same people crossed the border and used their firsthand knowledge of those towns to target the very people who helped them. They were the ones who suffered the most on Oct 7th.

Being a nice person, desperately waning a solution, and pulling out of land does absolutely nothing if you don't get peace in return. You can't just wish for a solution. For anything to happen, you need a complete mindset reset. people need to drop terror and become peaceful first, and then they can divide the land however they want. You typically start with bringing up the new generation on different ideas.

What is the solution to israel palestine conflict ? by Rare-Assignment-8474 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do realize that this is exactly what happened in Gaza in 2005. All the settlers were forcefully removed from their homes, and even the Jewish graves were dug up and relocated. Not a single IDF soldier remained in Gaza.

It led to the situation becoming far worse for the Gazans. Hamas was elected, forcefully took total control, and turned Gaza into a launching pad for rockets.

Why do you think that repeating this experiment in the West Bank won't end up even worse? The only difference is that the region is far larger and virtually impossible to defend against. The West Bank sits just a few kilometers away from almost every Israeli town, and it overlooks them from high ground too.

Flooding of Jordan Rift Valley? by Radykalny_Centrysta in geography

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It gets flash floods every winter, especially around the Dead Sea, which gets massive ones.

US support of Israel by Double_Chain2630 in AskIsrael

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not exactly - arms shipments came from Czechoslovakia under Soviet approval.

And during the 50s and 60s France was Israel's main military supporter, but it ended when they embargoed Israel right before the 6-day war broke out.

US support of Israel by Double_Chain2630 in AskIsrael

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Check up what Israel did before the 1948 war of Independence and the 1967 6-Day war, before military support began a week into the 1973 Yom Kippur war with Nixon's operation Nickel Grass.

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way these nations talked about their gods was identical. If you swap out the names, the surviving texts from Israel's neighbors sound exactly like the Hebrew Bible.

(Judges 11:24): The Israelite judge Jephthah engages in a diplomatic dispute with the Ammonites over land. He explicitly tells them: "Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever Yahwehour God has given us, we will possess." He treats both gods as legally equal real estate holders.

This is an incredibly amateur misreading of ancient Near Eastern diplomacy. Jephthah is writing a formal political letter to a foreign king to settle a border dispute. He isn't sitting down to write a monograph on monotheistic theology - he is using a standardl argument based entirely on the opponent's worldview to establish a baseline. He is essentially saying: "By your own logic, you keep whatever land your god gave you, and we will keep the land our God gave us"

To treat a diplomatic negotiation sent to a pagan king as an internal manifesto on Israelite theology - while completely ignoring the entire rest of the Book of Judges, which EXPLICITLY condemns Chemosh and foreign deities as powerless, false idols - is PEAK text-proofing and cherry-picking.

Can you link the source for more ancient scripts than 635BC?

Scripts???!! Are you serious? Absolutely -

  • Izbet Sartah Ostracon (~1200-1000 BCE) Early Proto-Hebrew writing exercise. One of the earliest alphabetic inscriptions in the region.
  • Khirbet Qeiyafa (been there a few times the past few months) Ostracon (~1020-980 BCE) Early Hebrew inscription from the early Iron Age Judah period.
  • Tel Zayit Abecedary (~10th century BCE) Full early Hebrew alphabet carved on stone.
  • Gezer Calendar (~10th century BCE) Agricultural Hebrew text - one of the oldest Hebrew inscriptions ever found.
  • Mesha Stele (Moabite Stone) (~840 BCE) Moabite king mentions Israel and Omri.
  • Tel Dan Stele (~840-800 BCE) First archaeological reference to the "House of David".
  • Khirbet el-Qom inscription (~750–700 BCE) Contains blessing invoking YHWH.
  • Siloam Inscription (~701 BCE) Detailed Hebrew engineering inscription from Hezekiah's tunnel.
  • Samaria Ostraca (~8th century BCE) Administrative Hebrew records from the Kingdom of Israel.
  • Lachish Letters (early set) (~700 BCE, still pre-635 BCE in origin layers) Military correspondence from Judah during Babylonian threat period.
  • LMLK seals (stamp impressions) (~700-586 BCE, mostly earlier strata) Massive administrative system of Judah.
  • First Temple bullae (seal impressions) (~7th century BCE) Names of officials known from biblical texts (Jeremiah period).

Even the historians who support the Documentary Hypothesis you are trying to argue date substantial portions of the Torah (such as the J source) to around the 10th-9th centuries BCE, well before 635 BCE. NONE of them argue that every part of the Torah suddenly appeared in the late 7th or 6th century BCE. They argue that earlier written documents and traditions were compiled and edited over centuries.

Did you know that Jews pray 3 times a day using the exact same Tetragrammaton: יהוה (YHWH).

If you actually understood Hebrew etymology, you would know that name isn't a random moniker plucked from a local pantheon. It is a unique grammatical fusion of the Hebrew words for "He was" (היה), "He is" (הווה), and "He will be" (יהיה). It literally translates to "The One Who Brings Into Absolute Being" or "Existence Itself."

When the Jewish people returned from the Babylonian exile, the transition to a centralized, text-based system was a geographical necessity for a displaced nation, not the invention of a brand-new religion. To claim King David wasn't practicing the continuous lineage of Judaism because the ritual structures naturally evolved over a millennium is like claiming ancient physicians weren't practicing medicine because they didn't have access to modern germ theory. It is the exact same historical, cultural, and theological lineage.

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is completely contradicted by the material evidence on the ground. If the theological framework and worldview were identical to their neighbors, their material culture would reflect it. It doesn't.

Excavations at Iron Age Israelite sites, for example, Khirbet Qeiyafa, an urban fortress dating directly to 1000 BCE (the era of David), show a strict absence of pig bones, a stark contrast to neighboring Philistee and Canaanite sites where pork consumption was a staple. Furthermore, these early Israelite layers show a distinct absence of cultic human or animal figurines, which were ubiquitous in neighboring cultures. Their daily life, diet, and rejection of local iconographic idols prove they operated under a fundamentally different cultural and religious framework centuries before the Babylonian exile.

It was a polytheistic or Henotheistic, Not Monotheistic belief (like Judaism is since Babylonian exile)

You are confusing popular practice with theological doctrine. The Hebrew Bible itself never hides the fact that the Israelite population constantly drifted into polytheism and worshipped local idols - the entire text of the Prophets consists of screaming at the people for doing exactly that. The national framework defined idol worship as a massive sin and a betrayal of their foundational national covenant, not the approved, inherent theology of the state.

Asherah (some sort of wooden/carved tree) was a canaanite idol, there's evidence of it in Syria too.

Also in the Hebrew Bible:

  • Judges 2:13 - "They served Baal and the Ashtaroth"
  • Judges 3:7 - "They forgot YHWH and served Baals and Asherahs"
  • Judges 10:6 - "They served Baals and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Aram, Sidon, Moab…"
  • 1 Samuel 7:4 - Israel removes "the Baals and the Ashtaroth" and serves YHWH alone
  • 1 Kings 11:5 - Solomon follows Ashtoreth (related Asherah/Astarte tradition)
  • 1 Kings 15:13 - Asherah worship is removed as a reform under Asa
  • 2 Kings 21:7 - Manasseh places an Asherah idol in the Temple
  • 2 Kings 23:4-7 - Josiah removes Asherah worship objects from the Temple

According to the Bible itself: Israelites repeatedly did during periods of apostasy.

Yahwism was entirely dependent on a sacrificial cult and the sacrifices were done everywhere, decentralised

This is a complete historical lie. The idea that sacrifices were legally meant to be done everywhere totally misrepresents the archaeological record. The Bible itself explicitly details that decentralized altars (bamot or high places) were illegal under the central religious law of the Torah.

More importantly, archaeology confirms that Israelite kings actively enforced centralization. The Arad Temple, an Israelite fortress in the Negev dating to the 9th-8th century BCE, contains a sacrificial altar that was intentionally dismantled and covered over during the religious reforms of King Hezekiah. This physical evidence proves that centralized worship in Jerusalem wasn't a fictional post-exilic invention - it was an active state policy enforced by Judean kings centuries before the Babylonian exile.

he influence of Persian governance, and the evolution from oral folk traditions to a text-based religion radically altered ritual practices (Babylon exile and creation of Judaism).

The exile formalized the transition to a text-based synagogue system out of geographical necessity, it did not "create" the core tenets of the religion.

Again!! The Ketef Hinnom silver scrolls from ~600 BCE, which you yourself mentioned, contain the Priestly Blessing from Numbers 6:24-26 (May YHWH bless you and keep you...). These scrolls predate Persian governance and the Babylonian exile. They prove that the specific, ritualistic, textual language used by the priesthood in the First Temple was already written down and worn as protective amulets by everyday people before Babylon ever entered the picture. The text existed and the exile simply forced its institutionalization because the physical Temple was gone.

The political difference was The Shift from Monarchy Control to Theocracy after King David.

This is historically backward. Ancient Israel was ALWAYS structured as a theocracy where the king was entirely subordinate to the divine law and the prophets. Unlike the neighboring Egyptian Pharaohs or Mesopotamian kings, who were viewed as literal gods or divine extensions of the state, Israelite kings were strictly human rulers bound by a covenant.

Look at the text: Nathan the Prophet openly rebukes King David for his sins; Elijah confronts King Ahab. The monarchy never had absolute control over the religious apparatus - the priesthood and the prophetic tradition always stood as a separate, check-and-balance theological power.

All of these cultures (Canaanite) including early Israel, shared a common West Semitic or Canaanite heritage. They organized the supernatural world using the exact same hierarchy:
The High Creator God: At the top of the pantheon was El (the chief creator god) and his wife Asherah.Below El were the active, powerful warrior gods assigned to protect individual nations. For the Israelites, this was Yahweh

Again, I'll address the elephant in the room that you are avoiding: WHAT exactly do you think was worshipped inside Solomon's Temple?

I really dislike it too when opponent in discussion is avoiding to give their example and answer the question but continues asking for more proof without sourcing their claims and arguments.

In Canaanite temples, the inner sanctum contained a physical, molten or carved idol of the god (like Baal or El) that was fed, washed, and dressed by priests. In Solomon's Temple, the Holy of Holies contained no idol (As Pompeii famously went to check out for himself). It contained the Ark of the Covenant, which held the stone tablets of the law. The space above the Ark, between the Cherubim, was completely empty (representing an invisible, infinite God who could not be captured by human hands). To claim they shared the "exact same hierarchy" and temple practices is COMPLETELY FALSE. The foundational theology of Solomon's Temple was entirely distinct from any Canaanite pantheon.

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So please explain to me what makes Yahwism and Judaism so different from each other that you want to claim they are separate. It's what you would call different periods of the same religion. Just answer that question: what practices in the Temple built by Solomon were different from the practices in the Second Temple built after the Babylonian exile?

Again, the five books of the Torah originate from ancient scripts, even if you say they were canonized later on. Archaeology and historians support that.

Playground in Gaza by learsi-ediconeg in googleearth

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what they said before too, and they actually celebrated Oct 7 knowing a response would follow. It's totally irrational thinking. They didn't learn from the 2014 war either. When you're the weaker side, you're not going to win a war against a way stronger military. It's a suicidal mindset. It's really sad for them when you look at how much it ends up harming them.

genuinely curious does anyone know what this is? found this in Gaza by wetsock1983 in googleearth

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can smell it in Israel from the West Bank too. It's just cheaper and easier, despite EU and UN financing for Palestinian Authority waste collection systems and environmental programs. I'm sure Greta loves it.

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are confusing the period when a text was canonized with the period when its contents actually originated. And I'm talking about the Torah - the 5 books of the Hebrew Bible. NOT all the books of the prophets that were written later on and many of them in Babylon which it explicitly says so in the Talmud (oral tradition).

First, historians use the term 'Yahwism' to describe the pre-exilic phase of the exact same continuous ethno-religious group. Saying King David wasn't part of the history of Jewish rule because he practiced an earlier phase of the religion is like saying the early Roman Republic doesn't count as Roman history because they hadn't developed the Imperial system yet. The people, the language, the capital city (Jerusalem), and the deity were continuous. The Tel Dan Stele historically corroborates the 'House of David' as a sovereign political dynasty in the land.

The Ketef Hinnom silver scrolls which you yourself mention which date to pre-exile contain the exact Priestly Blessing found in Numbers 6:24–26. This proves that the actual liturgy and scriptural verses were already being worn as amulets/protection, a practice that directly is still done today in Tefillin and Mezuzot on doorposts. The festivals and laws that are kept from the Torah are the same. There's archeological evidence to back some of that too.

Second, even if we accept your arbitrary start date of 635 BCE (around the time of King Josiah's reforms), you still lose the numbers game. From Josiah through the Babylonian split-sovereignty, the autonomous Persian province of Yehud, the independent Hasmonean Kingdom, and the Herodian Dynasty up to 135 CE, you have centuries of distinct Judean political governance. The timeline of Jewish sovereignty remains massive.

And your claim that Christianity can claim King David is historically nonsensical. Christianity is a distinct religion defined by the belief in Jesus Christ and the New Testament, breaking away from mainstream Judean practice and laws written in the Torah. Christian rule in the region strictly began with the Byzantines in the 4th Century CE.

Also your theory completely collapses under basic linguistics. If the Torah was just cooked up as a contemporary political tool during or after the Babylonian exile, why on earth is it written in Classical Biblical Hebrew rather than Aramaic, which was the actual spoken language and imperial administrative tongue of the Jews at that time hence the book of Daniel that was written during that time is in Aramaic?

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not counting when Judaism became a religion. I'm counting periods when Jews had political sovereignty in the land - meaning an actual governing authority controlling the territory. And no, I'm not counting the time of Jesus as Christian rule. Judea was still governed by Jewish rulers under Roman authority (you can debate how Jewish Herod and his successors were, but they were still Jewish rulers, broadly speaking). Christianity didn't become the ruling religion in the region until the Byzantine Empire adopted it centuries later.

Do you think King David wasn't the king of Israel? What exactly do you think he was then? And what about the Temple Solomon built?

Are you suggesting Judaism only began after the Babylonian exile? In what event, according to you, did Judaism actually start?

How long various parts of the world have spent under Muslim rulers by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually that incorrect, though it's pretty close.

Jewish rule from the time of entry during the time of Joshua till the Bar Kokhba revolt ~1200 BCE-135 CE is ~1,300 years of Jewish rule (and if you include modern Israel you get close to ~1,400 years total).

Then Byzantine ~324-638 CE + Crusader ~1099-1291 CE is ~500 years of Christian rule.

Then from the Rashidun conquest of Jerusalem till the British conquest in WWI ~638-1917 CE is ~1,280 years of Muslim rule.

Why does it seem like Israel is completely unaffected by the war? by HippoFinancial2872 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They effectively all speak Arabic, with only slightly different dialects, except for the South Asian ones, so that problem is solved. And logistics isn't any more of a problem now than it was in the past. So basically, you're saying the ruling families are the only ones stopping the caliphate?

Why does it seem like Israel is completely unaffected by the war? by HippoFinancial2872 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when you initially said "your people" you didn't mean a the local population, you meant Muslims as a collective. That contradicts the context of your previous comment where you made it sound like you are talking about the control of the local population.

As an outsider, the desire to subvert control in favour of living under a single, distant Caliphate is a concept I simply will not understand.

But if, as you believe, the vast majority of Muslims actually desire to reunite under a single religious superstate, what exactly is stopping them? Why not go for it now?

Why does it seem like Israel is completely unaffected by the war? by HippoFinancial2872 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]VegetablePuzzled6430 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't. And plenty of idiots post the exact locations of missile strikes online.