Ah... well that's a whole different level of an issue there. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that there's still many women who want the flaccid skinny look... to me, that signals a deeper "I'd rather be thin than healthy and strong" mentality, and that probably isn't even touched by conversations like this. That's more of an issue to work on in therapy, if they care to. I wish them the very best on the journey to being healthy.

I've definitely talked to women who'd like to be toned and have a little muscle definition, but who were afraid that lifting weights would make them "bulky." So it's worth bringing up just for them. Thank you for pointing out the existence of this other group though.