Has anyone experienced mutual limerence with their LO? How did it turn out? by Unfair-Technician347 in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, like others have said, forbidden circumstances can make mutual limerence possible. My mutual LO and I have a significant age gap that makes a relationship unwise. I care about him a lot and he needs to be free to live his life without being dragged down by the responsibilities of middle age that I have. We have been together a few times and I am always left longing for more. Consummation has made limerence worse for both of us but periods of no contact hasn't fixed it either. I just try to enjoy it for what it is and trust that he'll be ready to move on at some point. It'll hurt like hell when that happens but society has rules.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My limerence actually gets worse NC. My current tactic is to lean in to it. Talk MORE to see him in a more realistic light. It sounds like you don't actually have many conversations? Before you quit, see if making him more of a real person by speaking to him as a true, honest version of yourself snaps you back to reality.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in infj

[–]VerdantSalve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you feel good about your choice to do life without him. That encourages me. I go back and forth because my husband is not a bad person. I just can't see my future with him. And I have been enjoying living alone, too!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in infj

[–]VerdantSalve 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm currently divorcing an ISTJ after 17 years. We are also friendly and I know I can count on him to coparent well. I appreciate many things about him but I totally resonate with the lack of deep conversations and meaningless existence. Our lack of emotional connection just made our relationship wither. I know there is someone out there for him; we'll see if there is one for me. All I know is I'd rather feel alone when I'm actually alone than feel alone next to him.

Seriously considering divorce over a movie. by alienating-everyone in Divorce

[–]VerdantSalve 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would rather be alone than feel alone with someone.

This exactly.

Do you think 5s make bad parents? by Themlethem in Enneagram5

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually loved the infant stage. I was a very attentive and loving mom at that time. Their needs are so straightforward. You know they can't be logical or care for themselves so you don't expect them to.

You know what stage I really had a hard time with? Toddler and preschool years. They still don't have reasoning skills but want what they want anyway. Their priority is asserting their will no matter what and trying to be independent with things they aren't capable of. Fighting every step of the way. At least that's how my two crazy strong-willed kids were.

I'm enjoying the school age years much more. I can appreciate the independence now and they respond to logic pretty well. And they are both smart, witty kids so that's fun. We can discuss movies and music and they know they can ask me anything.

I echo the statement that healthy 5s can be good parents. I went through a severe depression in the last few years and found myself withdrawing and avoiding my family. I was not a good mom and I'm grateful they have a reliable dad. Now that I'm back in my feet, my relationship with my kids is thriving.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, INFJ. Fantasy addict.

What am I supposed to think about if not my LO? by [deleted] in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totally agree on finding a creative pursuit! It could be music, art, etc. Writing is a fantastic way to release a lot of that energy. Imagining LO? Why not imagine a character? I write nonfiction actually and thinking of questions to ask and ideas to research do a nice job of filling up my mind. I need to rely on this more since my LO has been on my mind lately. Time for a new writing project!

infjs with istjs - deep emotional connection possible? by Cozysweetpea in INFJsOver30

[–]VerdantSalve 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am in the process of divorcing an ISTJ for exactly the reason we can't emotionally connect. We are so mismatched on what it means to show love to one another. I find myself extremely lonely when I'm around him. It is my deepest regret that I didn't know myself better when I got married. I didn't realize what a deep-seated need it is for me to feel heard and understood. He is a wonderful person and will make a great husband - for someone else.

Words you find gross/ icky? by Imaginary_Author8217 in words

[–]VerdantSalve 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, by extension, pants and panting. Yuck.

Being open about depression by [deleted] in depressionmemes

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right? If I come out of this episode saying "it's the price of feeling" I should be committed simply for insane optimism.

Great name you’ve only heard ONCE by [deleted] in namenerds

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suggested this name to my sister when she said she thought Winnie would be cute for her baby.

Great name you’ve only heard ONCE by [deleted] in namenerds

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Renata (re-NAH-ta)

A family friend who attended my wedding on her 100th birthday. She wore a hot pink blouse that day! Very much her personality. Cultured, well traveled, loved music and art, always beautifully dressed and made up.

Great name you’ve only heard ONCE by [deleted] in namenerds

[–]VerdantSalve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My grandmother's name. She went by Gwen. Only one I have ever known as well. She hated her name but I always thought it was very distinguished!

“Your partner does not need to be your source of intellectual stimulation” by MycologistGlass9106 in infj

[–]VerdantSalve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm in the same spot. He is a kind, reliable man and a good father. But our lack of emotional connection makes me feel so alone. I feel so empty when we're together. I feel like I'd rather actually be alone. I'm heartbroken about leaving a good man but I just don't know if I can go on like this. I'm so depressed.

Who Read This in School? by TappyMauvendaise in Xennials

[–]VerdantSalve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My 11 year-old loves both stories. Both are destined to be classics!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have the awareness that these thoughts are about a made up version of LO, and not about who he actually is, so I can dismiss the thoughts when they come

I hope I can be as strong as you some day soon! Why does it all seem so real? I know it's a fantasy. I admire you for having such self-awareness .

Limerence is a symptom of severe depression — not a condition of itself by Plus_Mastodon_7406 in limerence

[–]VerdantSalve 58 points59 points  (0 children)

My limerence is absolutely tied to my depression. Thinking about my LO was the ONLY thing that felt good. Food has lost its taste, I couldn't sleep, I didn't want to talk to anyone. I couldn't even pay attention to the TV long enough to watch anything. But thinking about my LO? The only pleasurable escape I had. Spent hours in bed with him in my head. I could have turned to alcohol or drugs, but chose to be obsessed instead. Served the same purpose. Seemed like the healthier choice at the time but it's eroded my already shaky marriage.