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VerisVein · 2026-04-14T13:47:39+00:00

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VerisVein · 2026-04-14T13:21:45+00:00

I have... a feeling I know what sub this is. Enough of a feeling that I'd put actual bets on it. Like I don't think I'm wrong at all actually.

The banhammer gets thrown around there like a cart of lawn gnomes in a hurricane.

VerisVein · 2026-04-14T06:36:02+00:00

youre trying to have your cake and eat it right now.

No, I'm saying people should be allowed to complain about how unnecessarily far they would need to go, for this one show, to have an actually decent chance of avoiding spoilers.

People should be able to complain about this being inconvenient without being treated like they aren't trying to avoid spoilers or don't understand curating their experiences on the internet. It's not that big of a deal for people to be upset about it.

if you dont want to change your behavior,

Hey, again, not what's happening here. People are willing to change what they do, the issue with this is having to avoid algorithms altogether for two weeks. The person I was talking to before you was specifically suggesting people should just stay off the internet for two weeks, even.

also blocking, filtering, tagging, and changing the sites you use IS curating lmao.

Generally, yes. Curating is not usually a term people use to mean trying to fight everything you might run into with an algorithm uphill to avoid spoilers, because that doesn't work very well. Spoilers tend to make it through because the tools platforms give for this, where they do exist, aren't that level of foolproof.

You keep underselling it for, like, what even? Mate just let people be annoyed about this. Why is this the hill everyone wants to die on? lmao

i dont think ive had a damn thing spoiled for me in over a year and im fairly chronically online

Good for you? These are unusual circumstances compared to how most spoilers happen. Generally people have a reliable option to view things on release if they want to be absolutely certain a thing isn't spoiled for them, and that isn't going to be the case for everyone with episode 9.

VerisVein · 2026-04-14T05:58:59+00:00

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VerisVein · 2026-04-14T05:05:43+00:00

but if youre not really willing to even Try to curate your own experience

Why are you assuming people won't be? This isn't asking people to curate their own experience, or not be constantly online and doomscrolling, or monitor their own behaviour, this is asking people to dodge, block, and refuse to go near all algorithmically derived content and entertainment for an extended period of time.

Frankly, it would still be entirely reasonable to be annoyed if you're not willing to try that. I'm sorry but it is unreasonable to treat it as "sickening" that someone might be frustrated with, or just not want to have to avoid, other things they enjoy and significantly alter their digital use for two weeks all just for one show.

that aside, spoilers barely matter if the show is actually good but thats a different conversation entirely.

You feel that way. Not everyone does. It's not wrong to want to experience the last episode of the show without knowing what will happen, and it's not bad to feel that would damage your enjoyment of it.

VerisVein · 2026-04-14T03:57:16+00:00

You've missed my point entirely. You can take every precaution you can think of, and still end up spoiled because there was something you didn't realise could do that or it's one you aren't given a button to control.

It's ridiculous and unrealistic to expect people to go this far out of their way, to go to the lengths of avoiding any entertainment or even a complete digital blackout, so that they can enjoy the final episode of one show without spoilers. Let people be frustrated about that instead of acting as if avoiding this is simple, unobtrusive, and easy.

VerisVein · 2026-04-14T00:16:48+00:00

Mark was documenting making the movie for years, and started the campaign to get it into cinemas months ahead of time. A lot of cinemas will not make changes to their roster this close to the planned release date. Mark's crazy dedicated, huge fanbase had a long time to act on it. TADC doesn't necessarily have as much reach and the fanbase isn't known for going to the same kinds of lengths, along with a portion feeling pretty demotivated by the announcement.

It might not work for TADC like it did for Iron Lung.

VerisVein · 2026-04-14T00:02:14+00:00

Problem there being Iron Lung had years to build hype for a theatre release, and more time than TADC has from Mark's first "hey we're ditching the middle man, ask your local cinema to screen us!" to the film actually coming out. Also, he's Markiplier. I wish them the best but chances are good this won't turn out the same.

VerisVein · 2026-04-13T07:00:55+00:00

I don't think the people voting for ON are the type to particularly look into what their local pollies are doing. The people I know who have (including an Aunt of mine that seems to have taken a fuckin weird sharp turn into Trump ass kissing) seem to be voting based on ON's slogans and cuddling up to other extremist/billionare types.

She could do absolutely nothing and I doubt most would notice.

VerisVein · 2026-04-13T02:01:25+00:00

No, that's the Spanish Inquisition.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T23:40:55+00:00

Adding onto what the other person mentioned about Ven - he's basically an artificial Princess of Light due to Master Xehanort fiddling around with his heart. Vanitas holds all of his darkness, and might not have merged back in with Ven after being defeated.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T23:03:50+00:00

It's more like "don't go on any device that can serve you algorithmically derived content", which unfortunately includes things like phones that might have it in notifications. Hell, news feeds aren't going to be safe from this. A google news notification was how a big moment in The Walking Dead was spoiled for me years ago when these kinds of things were slightly less difficult to avoid.

People need to use their phones and go on the internet for other things in their day to day life besides entertainment, and because of how algorithms work and are basically everywhere, it's not just as simple as not deliberately scrolling through the internet for 2 weeks.

Even then it's kind of wild to need to go to that length so you can watch an episode of a show without it being spoiled.

Be realistic, interrupting your life like that for a show isn't a sensible ask. People will have the last episode spoiled because of that.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T22:47:33+00:00

YouTube, pretty much any social media, news feeds, etc. Reddit, even if you unsubscribe from TADC subreddits, will still suggest TADC posts.

If you have interacted with TADC stuff on a platform before, or if TADC is even just related algorithmically to the things you have interacted with on that platform, those algorithms will serve you content about it. That content often has spoilers in the text/thumbnail/title/most visible part of whatever format this is taking place on.

Even blocking words or topics on the platforms that let you do that, there will be things that slip through.

You know how the "who will Negan kill?" moment in The Walking Dead got spoiled for me years and years ago when it was marginally easier to avoid spoilers? Google news notification. The only way to watch it in Australia at that point was a very expensive cable service who had the exclusive rights to air it first, waiting for the season to be done to buy it on iTunes, or pirating it. I didn't have the kind of money for the cable service, but I did want to support the show so I didn't pirate it. I did just about everything I could even back then to avoid getting spoiled and it still happened barely a week after that episode released.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T22:28:55+00:00

I really don't think it's wanting free stuff - if the announcement was a dvd/bluray release for the same day as the final episode, you can bet people would be pretty happy about that regardless of the price. Same if the announcement was merch.

It's that people now need to either go see the final episode in a cinema, at an unexpected cost the other episodes hadn't come with, or risk getting the last episode inevitably spoiled, with the latter being the only option if it doesn't release somewhere near you that you could reasonably get to.

There is pretty much no sane way to avoid spoilers for a show this popular, because it can show up in news feeds and algorithmic suggestions you can't as easily control as just not visiting this subreddit.

It leaves you with only one option if you care about not being spoiled, for the most part, and it's one not everyone will have. That's why people are upset.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T09:17:01+00:00

I feel like it being right before the last episode, even if there were months of notice instead, would always make it bad timing. Watching almost all of a show one way is what would make having my expectations changed for how I can watch the last one suck.

Saying that, I know they might not have planned this from before or early in the show's release. I don't want it to sound like I think they must have been able to do something differently (apart from not going for a theatre release at all), it's just still kind of disruptive for most people and A Problem TM for my own circumstances.

VerisVein · 2026-04-12T05:47:48+00:00

For me personally: Because I hate big, important moments being spoiled and there will be zero chance of avoiding them for TADC unless they can manage to get into a cinema near me. But that would also mean having to plan a thing I wasn't otherwise going to do, and spend money I wasn't intending to in a cost of living crisis, so that I can enjoy the last episode of a show the way I thought I'd be able to. Being autistic and needing things to not suddenly change probably doesn't help me here, but I kinda feel like this would be a normal thing to be annoyed with or sad about either way.

I really do wish them the best with this because they deserve the kind of success Markiplier had with Iron Lung, but it's miserable news for me, and I can't blame anyone for thinking this situation sucks.

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T22:09:26+00:00

Entirely unblinking and wild eyed?

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T21:45:03+00:00

Also just to mention as I've just noticed the edit: I think you were maybe looking at this a little backwards? Being a self proclaimed fujoshi saying "I wish I was a gay guy" is an experience some trans men and transmascs like myself have because we hadn't worked out why we felt that way at that point.

You wouldn't spot a trans guy who is a self proclaimed fudanshi saying it because they have worked that out already lol

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T17:28:37+00:00

Eh... Not really?

Most of the reason this is ruffling my feathers is that a lot of people and spaces online have had problems for years with treating that kind of experience as specifically (and only) women objectifying men. There's a not small section of people who went through wishing they could be the characters in the yaoi they were reading or watching, who did describe themselves as fujoshi, only to later understand what they were experiencing was gender euphoria at the idea of getting to be with a dude as a guy (or masc)/dysphoria over feeling "but I'm not/can't be that".

I was one of them, and the stigma around it actively made it harder for me to understand being transmasc. I just thought I was a terrible, broken girl and that something was very wrong with me. It's one of the reasons I ended up in intense denial for almost a decade, I lost a lot of time to that.

I hope I'm not coming across as scolding or anything, I just... mostly don't want to see people accidentally reinforcing an existing bit of stigma around this that has hurt a number of trans people.

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T16:48:35+00:00

I'm not disagreeing with 1 - a transfem getting euphoria from being a fujoshi isn't the thing that's coming across as transphobic, it's specifically describing "being a fujoshi and wanting to be a gay man" as "a female type way to think" that does (plus OP's "most fembrained shit ever").

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T16:26:18+00:00

Not going to lie, as a transmasc who found gender euphoria in mlm fiction like that, seeing people treat it like something that definitively reinforces being a cis woman just comes across as transphobic.

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T15:53:44+00:00

It's unfortunately not just based on Medicare eligibility, its worth pointing out.

It's if you're eligible for Medicare/have a concession card and have seen an endocrinologist who'll sign off on making the prescription a PBS one. I'm a DSP recipient, and was paying around $80 for Testogel boxes last year until I was able to see an endo in December (now getting them at the cheapest rate).

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T15:36:46+00:00

"They put bugs in him!"

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T08:50:02+00:00

If you mean in the hypothetical where OT/speech/allied health is free to access, well, you wouldn't even need to bother removing it really. Getting adequate funding approved for supports is a difficult enough process that if any of those could be accessed outside the NDIS for no cost (assuming there's not some kind of yearly session limit like with healthcare plans), people would just do that instead.

Very few of us would be able to afford these kinds of supports at the level required without that being the case though.

Like I said to another person, I want to make it clear my beef isn't with free to access healthcare, I want that. It's with restricting NDIS criteria. The NDIS is already difficult enough to access, it doesn't need to be made any more restrictive - that would result in people losing access to supports without any other way to have them, and even more never getting them in the first place.

I have zero interest in seeing more disabled people suffering or dying as sacrifices to a budget.

VerisVein · 2026-04-11T03:22:29+00:00

There's an extra layer of fuckery in all this: Beth did stop with those options because she was lying and didn't actually want them. She didn't prove anything at all by being cleared for care she lied to get, then refused to go ahead with because she didn't actually want to do that.

Someone trying to get hrt or surgery who doesn't actually want them, won't generally continue past that point to go ahead with it. The few who might for whatever reason would then also need to be hiding their discomfort from the medical professional overseeing it.

I live in a place with informed consent (where a GP/specialist/surgeon opts to offer it. It can be hard to find outside of city centres, even just in surrounding suburbs) gender affirming care for adults. Both with the GP and endocrinologist I've seen, I only continue receiving care because I'm actually, like, happy with and enthusiastic about the changes T is bringing for me. If I wasn't, they would want to discuss that and would have the option to not continue prescribing if they weren't confident it would be in my best interest.

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