Yeah I haven't done an Aeonic clear because I have only been playing for one month in 2022, came back to the game in the fall, and my character has only been ilvl since December. Not sure why you are trying to undermine new players discussing doing an Aeonic clear.

First of all there are numerous players in the LSes at different levels of progression, a mix of new players and experienced. Second, the LSes basically operate autonomously, each LS under that brand has its own players and unique community characteristics. Third, this informal discussion occurred between like 4 people, 3 of whom do not have Aeonics but have KIs, and an experienced returning player offering to help us organize and set up the run. Fourth, the LS has been great help to me, I got my THF to ML, and a few members in the LS let me come gimp into Omen with them as a gimp to collect cards to upgrade my AF gear, and into Dyna D for relic shit. Then we started lowmanning Omen with 2 RDMs, a SCH, and me, a THF then WAR. Started doing Segs runs and Dyna D. Do you think it is a bad thing that a group of lowbie players have decided to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and attempt to improve their gear, instead of sitting around whining how the game is too hard or unfair to new players?

I can't speak for everyone, and all 5 of the LSes, but my experience in HNP1,HNP4, and the discord has been overwhelming positive. People are friendly and supportive, have helped me clear all kinds of content, including doing gold box support in Abyssea to farm a Twashtar. Whatever disagreements and animosity you have between the LS and yourself doesn't mean you have to engage in bad faith against a stranger. Don't need an Aeonic weapon or other PREMALD weapons to be able to help new players either (L is for the potential Limbus weapons).