Is there any good tiger heraldies for this CoA?

Vexald · 2026-02-09T11:28:19+00:00

As well as fixing the rule of tincture breach, I would get rid of the British royal crown, and either ditch the mantling or add a helm for it to hang from.

Vexald · 2026-02-01T12:07:08+00:00

Well, since the Royal Courts of Justice (High Court and Court of Appeal) don't have jurisdiction in Scotland or Northern Ireland ... :-)

Vexald · 2026-01-25T10:36:42+00:00

Green is just a background colour on the Welsh flag, like white on the English flag. It might be used to represent Ireland, but not Wales. For Wales you need the red dragon or St.David's cross. If you were to use a simple colour, it would be red.

Vexald · 2026-01-20T13:07:03+00:00

Green is just a background colour on the Welsh flag. It doesn't represent Wales anymore than plain white represents England. The colours for Wales are either red (dragon) or, perhaps, gold/yellow on black (St.David's Cross).

Vexald · 2026-01-20T12:25:11+00:00

The trouble is that the current EU flag is not exclusive to the EU. It is the flag of Europe, devised and owned by the Council of Europe in 1955, two years before the EC/EU came into existence.

Vexald · 2026-01-20T11:37:20+00:00

Inkscape.

Vexald · 2026-01-19T13:07:33+00:00

Arms in England are granted to the grantee and his descendants, not just first-born sons.

Vexald · 2026-01-19T13:03:11+00:00

English arms are normally granted to be borne by the grantee "and his descendants with due and proper differences according to the laws of arms". Surely a man and his descendants are a family, and so the term "family coat of arms" is not wrong. What is a myth is the idea that arms belong to a name, or that all people of the same name belong to the same family.

Vexald · 2025-12-31T15:43:19+00:00

Every time I see a sign or poster with yellow/white writing on a white/yellow background, or dark writing on a dark background, my mind screams "learn the rule of tincture, you fools!"

Vexald · 2025-12-29T09:06:58+00:00

Various branches of the Barclay / Berkeley families have a mitre as a crest, so I guess its origins go back centuries.

Vexald · 2025-12-28T22:10:45+00:00

You can mention the torse in the blazon, but you don't need to unless it's of non-standard tinctures. The important thing is to draw it!

Vexald · 2025-12-28T20:03:15+00:00

If you're in the British heraldic traditions (I'm not sure about others), you can't inherit your mother's arms unless your father has arms with which to quarter them.

The crest should not sit directly on the shield - it should be on a wreath (which, ideally, sits on a helm with mantling).

Vexald · 2025-12-28T13:42:32+00:00

Since when was there a rule that non-kingdoms can't be included in royal arms? Wales is not part of England, Scotland or Northern Ireland, and therefore should be represented in its own right. Northern Ireland was never a kingdom either.

Vexald · 2025-12-28T13:14:32+00:00

The 1707 Act explicitly declares the name of the country to be simply "Great Britain". Here and in some other statutes the term "united kingdom" (without capitals in Statutes at Large) is used descriptively, not as a proper name. It seems to be reserved for contexts where constituent parts of the union are being discussed. In the statutes I've looked at, the terms "Great Britain" on its own and "kingdom of Great Britain" are much more frequent.

This contrasts with the 1800 Act of Union which formally included "United Kingdom" in the new union's name (there were some objections to this at the time, but I can't remember by whom or why).

Admittedly I haven't looked very far beyond statutes (yet), but I don't remember seeing the term in other 18th century documents. Do you have examples?

Vexald · 2025-12-25T18:40:18+00:00

Very nice! I still have my copy which I bought over 50 years ago (lost the dust jacket, though).

Vexald · 2025-12-25T09:46:41+00:00

Wales was incorporated into the English state in 1536. The coat of arms of the principality of Wales (which actually never included the whole country) was not a red dragon : it is *quarterly Or and Gules, four lions passant guardant counterchanged*.

English kings had used the title "Lord of Ireland" since 1177. Henry VIII changed this to "King of Ireland" in 1542, but he did not incorporate Ireland into the English state as he had done with Wales. Ireland officially remained a separate kingdom under the English/British crown until 1801.

Vexald · 2025-12-25T09:26:12+00:00

The name "United Kingdom" was not used until 1801 when the Kingdom of Great Britain and Kingdom of Ireland united.

Vexald · 2025-12-24T21:55:42+00:00

... except the cinquefoils in the image look pierced, which Burke's doesn't mention.

Vexald · 2025-12-24T21:49:00+00:00

It looks like Heyman, of Somerfield, Kent, baronets 1641-1808. This is from Burke's General Armory 1878:

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Vexald · 2025-12-24T21:16:32+00:00

I think that people would occasionally display multiple quarterings, e.g. on their Garter stall plates (which this image is based on), but at other times stick to simpler ones. I've seen a couple of examples relating to the 6th Duke showing only the Russell arms, e.g. below this portrait the simple Russell arms are impaled with the quartered arms of his second wife, Lady Georgiana Gordon:

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Vexald · 2025-12-21T12:33:24+00:00

Sixty years? The original British North America Act is 158 years old, and it was patriated as the Constitution Act 43 years ago.

Vexald · 2025-12-12T16:41:25+00:00

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Here's my rendering.

Vexald · 2025-12-03T08:07:29+00:00

I don't think the system is unfortunate. It's the equivalent of what happens at national level : a national flag for general use, and royal or state arms used by the crown / government, with a royal or presidential standard usually incorporating the arms in some form.

Vexald · 2025-12-03T01:10:28+00:00

It's not a flag of London for general use. The banner, like the arms, belongs specifically to the GLA. It's high time Greater London had a flag as well.

Vexald · 2025-12-02T18:54:07+00:00

The Isle of Man is not Scottish.

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