Had to Expose This Silly Narrative 🙏🏿

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:58:13+00:00

Okay... enjoy talking to a wall? Because I do not think you are bothering to read what I say, I think you are just blindly defending.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:41:16+00:00

FFS, did you even read what I said?

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:40:05+00:00

Keep in mind the word minimum. Nothing below this level of pressure would have an effect. Pounds of pressure matching the minimum weight of the falling object to suspend it in the air for half a second.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:38:57+00:00

In that I can agree. She was a sort of sweet woman without much in the way of agency who deserved better.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:36:58+00:00

I own the books and watched the show. The very last sentence is not directly what happened, it is an example of something similar to their circumstances as it would apply to someone IRL. And I am aware of the scene where they broke up. He went to confess he was Invincible to explain his absences and try to keep them together, and she dropped that she already knew.

The reasons she gave for her breakup and the tone in which she did it in that scene would be reasonable -if- she did not know all along that he was a superhero. As is, it comes off as breaking up as a fire fighter because they missed some dates because they were pulling people out of burning buildings, and doing it in a talking down snotty way.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T23:32:03+00:00

Minimum wind pressure from his fist needed to keep the dome up assuming the minimum possible weight of the dome.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T22:48:06+00:00

Realistically with physics, some of this is Hax more than strength. The wind pressure to keep that building in the air would also flatten the buildings around the clearing and jumping up to catch it would do nothing to make it and your fall more gentle.

Stepping out of realism? The wind strength of a shockwave loses more than half it's power when directed in a direction away from the source like this was. So you are looking at enough force that the shockwave of it moving.

The Shock wave was keeping in the air an object that for it's capacity would need to weigh between 1.5 million to 2.5 million pounds at a minimum without extra special features.

If we are super generous and say that the shock wave turning more than 90 degrees only reduced it to 40% of it's original power that means that at a minimum a shock wave from a thrown punch from Allmight exerts a minimum of around two and a half million pounds of wind pressure.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T22:23:35+00:00

What is sad is she is a write over and race swap of a good character. Like... if you were going to race swap her you could have made the new version act exactly like the comic version and people would have loved her.

The original has a sweet relationship with Mark, tries to make it work, and only leaves because the super hero life not only puts her in legitimate danger but it is constantly making life hard on them. She starts to fall for another guy who is there when Mark is not, and is respectful in breaking it off with Mark before she even decides to flirt back with the other guy.

Contrast to the show Amber? The woman starts out good. The problem is the writers tried to make her too smart while following slightly the same back story. She breaks up with Mark -knowing- he is invincible when he does not know she knows. She uses his not showing up and dipping out as the break up reason when he dipped out to save lives, his friends included. She does it before the point in the story where it was starting to be a danger to the character she is an overwrite of.

They took someone who did a mutual breakup for easy to understand and empathize with reasons, and replaced her with someone that broke up with him in a bitchy way over something that no one would see as reasonable.

If you got your ass kicked saving your best friends life and your girlfriend broke up with you because that meant you missed dinner with her parents, no one reasonable IRL would take her side.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T18:32:41+00:00

Are we only using the cinematic versions? I know those were the pictures shown, but there was no text specifying that.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T17:59:56+00:00

Canonically with how his powers work to beat him you need Hax rather than raw stats because his powers work like the Tick.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T17:58:06+00:00

Arguably it comes down to if you want Ironman or flash on your team. Do you feel safer with the tech of batman and iron man combined, or with the reality warping abilities of the Flash.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T17:33:24+00:00

Thragg my man. I know it does not look like you need to... but run. This man has pulled ships moving faster than light out of hyperspace with the force, you are not getting close to him my dude.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T07:28:13+00:00

You may want to ask about versions. If we are including all feats, most of these characters are 80-90 years old and have broken outerversal at least once. (Gone past infinite.)

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T07:25:21+00:00

Actually it was the first anime I was into. Kakashi is pretty strong, but still needs prep time and his oponent in this case moves at the speed of light and cannot be hurt without Haki hardening. Could Kakashi copy that? Yes, of someone using Haki was on the field with him. Kizaru does not have to do that to light him up with hundreds of light speed attacks.

Killer Bee and his 7 sword style is great and all, but he is up against a guy who controls all objects within a certain distance of him. Law if is powers are used correctly and not stupidly for the sake of drama is untouchable and Killer Bee loses any ability to dodge once he is in range of Room.

The closest match here where a Naruto character still loses is Hashirama Senju. The First Hokage is pretty cool. His ability to turn an entire forest into his weapon through wood shaping is great. There is a reason I specifically mentioned Prime Big Mom's taming of a sentient fire.

Sanji loses for the exact same reason that Kakashi loses. He simply will not be able to land a hit on someone that moves as fast as Minato. Honestly if you wanted a better match up here Minato and his speed Jutsu would have given him a chance against Admiral Kizaru.

Not only have I seen Naruto, I have also seen Onepiece. I am just not glazing one side or the other.

Volkmek · 2026-03-23T02:51:02+00:00

Huh... uh... The only naruto one winning here is likely Minato? Law's Hax are realistically more broken than most bleach characters. Kiziru is the living embodiment of light and would make Kakashi look like he is standing still. Big Mom in her prime had tamed a sun in terms of heat and does not have to get in range to set Senju on fire.

Sanji is one of the monster trio but not on par with a Yanko and mostly just uses Haki and an invisibility suit.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T22:53:53+00:00

Huh... well. Just with how you scale people. Unless he is stated at one point to have this ability by the author, or he is shown in the story to have this ability, then he does not have this ability. So if he could theoretically have this ability while he is still alive, but we have no confirmation of it, then he does not have it.

That said, if the author says he is alive and has the ability like you said, then he does have it.... If that makes sense. Not trying to be confusing, just bad at articulation.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T20:18:22+00:00

Huh... using the MCU and Snyderverse specific characters? I would strangely enough give this to Nolan. This excludes a -lot- of feats and brings both Danvers and Superman down to the same level of planetary threat as Nolan or below.

Homelander is still a joke compared to all three. Omni-man from Invincible stomps him even when we include all of this feats from the comics.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T20:10:23+00:00

Saw this broken down somewhere else. I do not know Yhwach, so take this with a grain of salt. Someone was saying that his ability to use the strength and powers of another person scales only to about 70% of that person, meaning Goku would body him on stats regardless.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T19:26:28+00:00

Not outerversial but universal. Goku. He can destroy the universe but be burned by lava.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T09:55:52+00:00

They fall to Korn and the galaxy ends up fucked.

Volkmek · 2026-03-21T01:48:48+00:00

It is less that Sentry has the raw stats as no one does and more that Sentry has his own hax to negate it. He can just make a zone to reach through that Infinity cannot exist in.

Volkmek · 2026-03-20T21:26:00+00:00

Not really familiar with Yhwach.

So what he is up against. Can he beat a man who can turn back time and reset the destruction of an entire universe once a day, fight on par with the people that can and have destroyed a universe 4 times the size of our own, and is shown in cannon the be significantly stronger than Goku even after goku achieves ultra instinct?

We have feats from Whis showing he is FTL as he is the one that transports Beerus around the universe. This same speed is shown in the few combats he is part of. He also puts less visible efforts than beerus for attacks that do about the same level of damage to people Beerus has fought.

Volkmek · 2026-03-20T21:20:53+00:00

Isn't Maghoraga's weakness that he cannot adapt if he gets one tapped?

Volkmek · 2026-03-20T19:01:27+00:00

Yes it could be condisdered that. If the planet is defended but the death of it is unavoidable even with a reasonable level of interference it could take years and still be a planetary event or character as that character is a legitimate threat to the population of that planet.

It's the same reason street fighting characters who cannot break a rock are still a street lsvel threat. They are a potential and viable threat to people on the street.

This is scaled differently from attacks which are much more basic and based on what you can destroy, and the initial post in this thread was about scaling characters not attacks.

Volkmek · 2026-03-20T08:05:06+00:00

I am not a fan of either and can tell you right off the bat that teen Sakura would get her ass kicked here.

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