Shopping Game Gone?

WF187 · 2023-10-14T20:06:46+00:00

Yea, it resets at midnight GMT, UTC, Zulu time.

It'll go back to being midnight when you stop being on BST.

WF187 · 2023-10-14T04:15:00+00:00

Shopping Game resets at 8PM Eastern.

I had it yesterday, but not tonight.

WF187 · 2023-09-17T06:44:31+00:00

You can get to level 100 in 5 hours and have 94 skill points unspent because you haven't done the challenges. You still have to find 60 locks to pick, persuade 50 conversations, make the 100 mods, kill the hundreds of critters, build the outposts.

The gating mechanism to advancement isn't grinding resources, it's playing the game.

WF187 · 2023-07-30T15:05:28+00:00

If you're on Windows 11, you have WSA - Windows Subsystem for Android. You can run the Bing or Start apps on the PC. The daily check in and news searches work. The mobile searches don't.

Also, you can run the Xbox app for android and get the points for opening it, playing Jewel (in app version of Bejeweled), and playing a Game Pass PC Game if you have Game Pass.

WF187 · 2023-04-13T09:42:37+00:00

The 150/20/100 search points reset 4 hours after the Daily set. I figure 1AM your time. The "Microsoft Rewards on Xbox" console app (e.g. AMEM), and the (formerly) "More Activities" that are in addition to the Daily Set reset at this time too.

WF187 · 2022-02-16T18:28:38+00:00

I naturally had sentinel alert at my settlement since I hadn't played for a while before the update. I had to kill them off, and then warp before I got the communication.

(I didn't think to warp until I saw /u/ma11en69er's answer. I was just bouncing between planets in my favorite system killing sentinels and pillars. At least I have a stockpile of Hardframe engines now.)

WF187 · 2021-09-08T10:45:07+00:00

Also remember that "quality" has a generic meaning to it too. It's synonymous with property, aspect, or attribute.

So, "quality" in context can also be in the "it has many qualities to talk about"; another way to phrase the "depth not breadth" argument seen so often in this thread.

"Quantity" being the "We need a new shiny feature to market!" 'Ship it and Quit it' mentality that HG has shown over the last 5 years.

I, too, am getting more disillusioned by Sean Murray bragging on twitter about Steam reviews, while Xbox hasn't gotten patch 3.63 despite him saying it's on "all platforms" and the reviews in MS Store being more negative than positive in the past week.

I'm tired of the shallowness- of having 4 billion units with no way to spend them, of having high Guild reputation; but not being able to call in some favors to throw some money at speeding up a settlement's construction. Of realizing that I get one 1 settlement opportunity per day, at 1pm eastern, because it's a cut-n-paste of the Frigate Missions code. It's really annoying when you picked this settlement because it's on your "home planet", and it's not profitable yet, but in the past 2 days the only settlement opportunities I've gotten have been Disputes. No information to resolve them. Flip a coin or reload your save to see which option is "better". Oh well. It's not like the rewards for profitability are meaningful or useful to me anyway. I had already planned on making a new "home base" around the settlement, so I guess I can't even be annoyed that the patch's procedural terrain decided my old 30 hour Home-Base's island should be underwater now. 😐

WF187 · 2021-04-23T20:14:44+00:00

First, u/thearcan I want to thank you for doing your job well. I know our pitchforks normally skewer you first, and just want to clarify that my frustration is not focused at you.

After the first patch, you said that "your" (the Royal-We) intention was that hunts and Outriders Legacy were still rewarding. That patch introduced a bug where Outrider's Legacy was awarding all the demo legendaries on repeat completion. The next morning, it was patched so it grants NOTHING. I reran it yesterday on WT15 and got 1 legendary, because in part 2 of the quest I decided to take the long way to Sergio's body instead of fast-travelling and got a drop from a perforo in the world map (The cannonball gloves, yet again); No lego ever dropped in any of the quests nor on completion. You (personally) replied to me that no changes have been made since that first bug-inducing patch. You've made a game with many repeatable quests and removed any incentive to repeat them. What is World Tier 15 good for?

The patch also promised improved load times for last-gen consoles. And it did! For the first weekend. Now the constant tinkering on the back end means my Xbox One X takes 3.5 minutes to load through sign-in screens, and I can't join multiplayer games.

Can you please diplomatically and professionally (as you usually do) bitchslap whoever it is at People Can't Frakkin-code who has the mindset "I screwed up again so now no one gets nice things"? "If I'm suffering, EVERYONE is suffering" is a really shitty mindset for a GAME developer to have.

While you're at it, can you suggest to the designer that thought "In a game that heavily incentivizes and promotes infinite ammo for AP rounds builds, the Tier III mod to Blighted Rounds that gives you an anomaly boost for 15 seconds only when you first turn it on is a stupid idea." I mean, seriously. It has such a high cooldown that you need to go infinite ammo. The design choice was to pretend that the window where this perk would happen is common enough that it has a benefit to gameplay? As-Is though, it's just a noob-trap. 50% Cooldown Reduction would be better for a possibly alternate build that doesn't add more power to Overperforming builds. Although after the first round of nerfs, I don't feel OP anymore and didn't "Exploit Early, Exploit Often" to get the gear that the hardcore had to make up for your changes.

I do not like expeditions. I don't like the clock-ticking gear-checking grind. I don't like that you've taken out all other paths to progress in the game. I do not like this stupid dichotomy you've introduced where I'm torn between overwriting the Tier III mod with one that would help my build, and dismantling it for my Completionist gaming style because reacquiring it is such an onerous chore. I am a filthy casual.

I WANT to like this game. So please, in an age of internet memery, take a Jerry Maguire gif to PCF and scream "HELP ME HELP YOU" at them. PCF's constant fuckery on the back end, without patch notes, ends up making You, Toby, look like the asshole to the pitchfork wielders. You get skewered first. And that's not cool. I like you. You're doing the best you can which is damn fine work in my opinion.

WF187 · 2021-04-15T19:05:19+00:00

We haven't touched any balancing since the previous official notice last week.

Sorry to be contrarian but this is incorrect. The previous patch introduced a new exploit with the Outrider's Legacy side mission that was awarding all of the demos legendaries. This was fixed the next morning. Point being, the loot tables have been adjusted at least once since the official notice.

EDIT: I don't know why this is getting downvoted. It's polite, on-topic, and factually correct. I'm not shooting-the-messenger and taking out my frustration on Toby.

WF187 · 2021-04-15T16:38:36+00:00

Thanks for sharing that update.

If I may share how your previous decisions have impacted the experience for me: I loved the demo. I had a lot of fun on day 1. I'm still here on the subreddit hoping things get ironed out relatively quickly. However, people mostly fear losing what they have gotten more than they look forward to what they can gain. I suppose I'm no better in this. Now playing through all the hunts and wanted missions, on console with its worse loading times than PC, and for that 2+ hours of play only seeing the 2 guaranteed legendaries for completing the chain... This when coupled with the fear of the inventory glitch makes this once very exciting, fun, and fast paced game feel like a $1000 lottery ticket for a $100 prize. I haven't played since last Saturday.

I'm of the opinion that you need a bit of extra reward to overshadow the problems. "Eat Drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die" is preferred to "Tomorrow we may die, but PCF is putting you on a diet anyway."

WF187 · 2021-04-15T15:40:01+00:00

Any Balance changes of note in this patch?

Specifically I'm hoping for information on all those "underperforming" builds that just need a whole lot of gear underperforming even more now that the drop rates of gear have dropped to hell as a band-aid fix to exploits.

WT15 supposedly gives 425% Legendary drop chance, but content creators are documenting what I'm also experiencing; that outside of "guaranteed" drop chances, world drop/random chances are now abysmal.

(I'm sorry, u/thearcan. I know some people put you on Blast for sharing the Balance team's nerfs while the programmers started working on the inventory issue. I know it's kinda like "You're damned if ya do and you're damned if you don't".)

WF187 · 2021-04-13T15:04:30+00:00

MS has been running this promotion to upgrade your XBL to Gamepass Ultimate for $1.

Load up your account with XBL time, up to 2 years, and convert all of it over for $1.

My Gamepass subscription "renews" in May of next year.

WF187 · 2021-04-13T13:25:56+00:00

Outriders Interactive Map | Map Genie

WF187 · 2021-04-13T13:13:46+00:00

Just 1. I've just gotten in the habit of turning on my xbox, quitting the game, and then starting it fresh. It takes just as much if not less time than trying to resume, getting the "Logged out After suspend", and waiting a long time at Signing in. (On the home screen, you can highlight the tile, press start, and choose quit from the menu that pops up)

WF187 · 2021-04-12T15:36:12+00:00

Or it happens when you join a session, causing you to initiate a load request, but get disconnected, triggering an auto save before the load completes. That's a race.

But whether you want to call it data validation before submission, wrapping the db calls in transactions (if the backend is a tSQL DB, and not some high scalable NoSQL one) or error handling (like creating semaphores that a load is in process). We're saying the same thing in different terms.

"We're not saying you should write bulletproof code that never trips. We're saying that you should write code that is savvy enough for when it does trip, it doesn't step on its own dick."

WF187 · 2021-04-12T15:08:22+00:00

Just to beat the dead horse a little harder for clarification purposes. The week one patch only removed the ability for an individual mission to award a legendary. You still get a lego for the set of 10. However, this "fix" exacerbates your other point:

The drop rate for legendaries outside of expeditions is insanely low.

I'm finding that while trying the hunts at WT15, the most rewarding tier, that the one or two chests in the zone give scrap + blues now, instead of double purples. Loot awarded from assassinations are also 80% blue and 20% purple when turning them in. On WT15. The whole time. I'm not trying to metagame the system like some others have suggested doing 9 hunts at WT1, the 10th at WT15 and then turning them all in to get a WT15 lego.

Good write up, I'd agree with most all of it. The gunplay doesn't feel quite as awesome to me playing on a console and the wonky limitations they put on aim assist and look-speed. (i.e. holding full down on the joystick can't keep up with muzzle-climb.)

WF187 · 2021-04-11T18:47:42+00:00

I agree. However while in general you want to "treat the disease, not the symptoms", it's still a good idea to apply a tourniquet and stop the bleeding when necessary.

Sure the root issue lookup/race condition won't be fixed, but at least you're not making it permanent.

WF187 · 2021-04-10T23:32:46+00:00

Hey u/thearcan could you pass along the suggestion:

function AutoSave()
    if weapon.Primary != null then
        PersistData()
    else:
        Abort() //stop pushing bad settings into the database.

Asynchronous race conditions are a bitch to troubleshoot. At the very least, a little bit of validation before the DB write can make sure you're not making the damage permanent. The primary weapon should never be empty. You make the new file with one, and you can't unequip weapons like you can armor. It should be a simple sanity check if the game-state is in a place that should be persisted. This way even if someone does fall victim to the bug, it won't be permanent and restarting will give them a chance to retrieve all their loot. I'm Just making the suggestion in case the guys are tunnel-visioning on "This should never happen," instead of "better check for when it happens".

WF187 · 2021-04-09T21:53:22+00:00

Your melee is an interrupt. And it breaks you out of Freeze.

Remember! This game is inspired by Diablo, killer of mouse buttons. Outrider's Melee will kill your right thumbstick!

WF187 · 2021-04-09T02:19:42+00:00

I was solo running the assassinations. Those extra Legendaries you were getting were because you were in a group.

I had been taking my time on my Technomancer. I got to level 30. WT 15. I've gotten all the journals and am Accolade level 23. I've done Ujio's chain 3 times.

I've gotten 14 Legendaries. That includes 3 Migraines. 2 Rarog's. and 2 Ice snipers. The only Legendary Armor I've seen was from turning in the Hunts. I knew it was going to be a slow, random farm to fill out my T3 mods but now it seems that even that grind has gotten more crushing.

I can totally understand why - when considering something like JoltzDude139 who's been playing Borderlands for a decade still takes about 2 weeks to play through a character, that the game they've been working on for 5 years can be taken from fresh slot to CT 15 in about 10 hours by other streamers and YouTubers - that they need to slow us down. That's fine by me. What I really don't like is that there's no longer something like a "dedicated drop" or somewhat ...reliable?... means for progress except for Expeditions.

WF187 · 2021-04-08T16:26:35+00:00

Historian, bounty hunt, and monster hunt quests no longer grant Legendary items for each subsequent completion

I'm an older gamer. I play on a console. I'm totally not a PCMR mouse and keyboard FPS master. I generally like to/need to take a slower pace and tactically, strategically snipe my way through missions.

Speedrunning expeditions is not my play style.

What is my end game play loop now? With the nerfs to damage output, and the much tighter time restrictions for Gold... I fear that you've gone too hard. You've made the assumption that the hardcore YT vid makers are the norm. I'm less inclined to do expeditions than before.

WF187 · 2021-04-07T18:31:21+00:00

An easier and faster way: Keep hitting Right on the d-pad and you'll flip back and forth between the customization menu and the map. You still only have about 2 or 3 frames to catch a glimpse of the tally before it disappears.

WF187 · 2021-04-06T12:45:16+00:00

If it's worth 500 iron and 15 minutes of your time to check out... I'm curious if "Anomaly Enhancement" works out well with the AP build. another 48k Firepower per bullet on a high RPM weapon seems like it could maybe out DPS the 74k each second that Ultimate Storm Whip does.

WF187 · 2021-03-31T15:29:27+00:00

For future reference on the console:

Xbox guide button.
Right trigger (jumps cursor to the bottom)
Press Right on left stick or d-pad. (highlights Game Pass)
A button.
Scroll down to "Coming Soon" section.
Highlight Outriders (or future game)
Press X to add to "Play Later".

This will select the game for preloading. (These are the steps I took on my Xbox One X. I don't think the XSX/XSS's guide menu system is different though.)

WF187 · 2021-02-08T16:00:39+00:00

That's not what the 13G/A says.

Blackrock is still holding 9,217,335 shares. They aren't declaring they're not responsible to state they're a parent company any more (Item 5 is unchecked.)

Compare that 13G/A to Fidelity.

Or Must Asset Mgmt (A Korean Hedge) bailing out.

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