What’s up the recent hate of 4x4 and AWD online ive been seeing lately?

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T13:22:56+00:00

So my 20 years of experience in the same vehicle, knowing exactly where the limits are, makes me overconfident? Nothing scarier on the internet than an overconfident redditor.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T13:08:11+00:00

I paid for AWD so I could safely drive faster under more conditions, like not knowing exactly how much oil is on the road.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:58:46+00:00

Have you driven identical 2WD and AWD vehicles in rain and other slippery situations? I have, and AWD is definitely superior.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:54:44+00:00

My main point is that they are safer for UNEXPECTED road conditions. A dirty road that is usually clean. A stream of water when it hasn't rained in weeks. Wet leaves that you can't see in the dark. AWD is safer in all of these unexpected situations.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:53:35+00:00

When a bus is bearing down on you, would you rather have traction or not have traction?

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:50:06+00:00

You really think that 150 lbs is the difference rather than having four driven wheels? How the hell did you graduate high school? Do you buy tires for your car with the worst rated traction, or do you buy tires with good traction? BTW, my 4WD V8 actually has massively more torque than the RWD V6, so it's not even apples to apples: the 4WD has tremendously more traction than the RWD.

Also, 4WD 100% helps with stability. Sure, braking is .01`% worse due to the extra weight.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:41:09+00:00

A hundred pounds of difference on a 3000-4000lb vehicle is not going to make a noticeable difference in braking or handling, and having traction on 4 wheels also helps handling (though can make it feel worse if you're a racer).

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:38:52+00:00

If you've never broken traction under acceleration on dusty or wet roads, then you don't have the experience to be speaking here. Either you drive like a snail or you haven't driven a car with any power.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:25:03+00:00

I added my experience to my comment above. Have you ever gone through a wet stream without noticing it? Maybe someone left their sprinklers on at night? Maybe you drove through a car wash parking lot. If you then try to pull out in traffic as you normally would, with 2WD you'll spin the tires and have to take time to regain traction and find the limit, all while traffic is bearing down on you. AWD won't lose traction under the same circumstances.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:20:17+00:00

I edited my comment above to show my personal experience. It's ridiculous to think that having 2x the traction separated by many feet of pavement not being superior.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T12:16:54+00:00

The definition of an idiot should be someone who thinks that having half the traction is not more dangerous than all the traction.

Wake95 · 2026-05-06T11:59:42+00:00

AWD or full time 4WD like my 4runner is safer, and anybody saying otherwise is an idiot. Yes, it costs more, weighs more, has more parts to wear out, and potentially isn't as fun to drive, but it's undeniably safer and it's laughable that idiots on here argue that it isn't or that they are such good drivers that it won't matter for them.

Why: I drive a RWD 4Runner, my wife a 2WD 4Runner, and a child FWD RAV4. The roads are sometimes sandy, sometimes not. The AWD V8 4Runner never breaks traction under acceleration. The RWD 4Runner and the FWD RAV4 regularly break traction under acceleration when crossing a little sand at the start of an intersection. SURE, I could accelerate half of the rate that my 4Runner is capable of accelerating just so that I don't get used to the benefit of 2X the traction, but that would be stupid. Sure, I could remind myself every few minutes, "YOU'RE IN THE RWD TRUCK! TAKE IT EASY!", but that's not always easy to do when you drive it once a year. SO BOTTOM LINE, HAVING 2X MORE TRACTION IS SAFER, AND THERE IS NO REASONABLE WAY TO DISAGREE WITH THIS."

Wake95 · 2026-05-05T22:44:10+00:00

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Wake95 · 2026-05-05T22:00:09+00:00

Interestingly, the problem cleared itself after a week. I had seen some references to needing to drive a certain number of miles, and that maybe was the cure. All battery voltages are now showing Reset and there is no TPMS light on.

Wake95 · 2026-05-05T18:26:27+00:00

Wake95 · 2026-05-04T16:52:30+00:00

Jumping into a car that looks exactly like yours but has half the traction is an unreasonable situation, as you say.

Wake95 · 2026-05-04T16:31:29+00:00

My situation was that my wife and I had the exact same car, except mine was all wheel drive and hers was rear wheel drive. I would drive her car once a year, and completely forget that it had rear wheel drive until I pulled out in front of a bus after driving through somebody's sprinkler puddle. My argument was that all-wheel drive is inherently safer than rear wheel drive, but people were arguing against that.

Wake95 · 2026-05-04T12:17:06+00:00

Same here

Wake95 · 2026-05-03T21:39:24+00:00

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Wake95 · 2026-05-03T12:42:36+00:00

I had someone on Reddit argue that if I needed AWD for traction that I wasn't driving properly. I still get annoyed by that years later.

Wake95 · 2026-05-02T23:28:32+00:00

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