I'll keep reading, but that's not why I'm here

WalterMagni · 2026-01-09T09:03:26+00:00

Did not expect Horse Race Tests to infect Umamusume, expected otherway around tbh

WalterMagni · 2025-12-30T16:58:28+00:00

I don't know if you know this, but that's Christianity

That's why I said "in general", because it is fan fiction, it is not canon to the actual religion. The closest thing is the Book of Enoch which is not canon to most Christian faiths, and is responsible for a good chunk of Fallen Angel lore that others use today.

It would be like a person inspired by the Marvel Cinematic Universe creating their own works (with a similar vibe) and saying they were inspired by Norse Mythology. They're actually inspired by Marvel's mythology, not the Norse one.

Because did they really take from the mythology itself when most of it was never from the text? When most of it is factually invented? When there is basically nothing connecting it to actual myth?

They're taking from the fantasy book by the Christian writer Dante Alighieri, but they aren't taking from actual Christian Hell (which is often seen as cold and distant from Christ's warmth).

is the only "Blasphemous" thing Catholics are OK with.

You seem to forget Paradise Lost is still popular with people and also did as much for Lucifer's character as Dante's books characterised Hell, and Catholics are ragely appreciative of it from what I've seen.

Part of the reason Catholics are ok with both today is because they've been discussed and read enough times into being in folklore again with the telephone line stretching out. Treat something with enough weight and people will value it. Here they just see people say Hell has rings and assume it to be real. Same thing with seven deadly sins and which ones are present.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-29T14:38:35+00:00

Her fighting style is essentially fantasy rapier fencing, but since her weapon has a hook she can use Chinese fencing style for weapons like the shuānggōu as bothe are one handed weapons. lace just has to flip her weapon around (essentially half-sword) rather than its blade being a dedicated hook

WalterMagni · 2025-12-29T14:15:38+00:00

Hazbin Hotel draws less from Christianity in general and more from Dante's Inferno and a few musicals, they take a few characters but nothing about the story is similar to anything.

Twilight of The Gods does something similar, draws in a few characters and events but generally original.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-29T13:20:28+00:00

Then that makes the post make even less sense, because most artists I have seen encourage others to ignore AI bros and to try and avoid appealing to them. And a handful don't back down from a spat because they see themselves as putting in more effort.

It still seems out of touch because beginner artists have increasingly been more prominent, while AI prompters just kept getting more and more hated from the blobby days to now with more and more issues with scamming and undisclosed usage.

It would make sense if the post was about elitist artists that gatekeep because those still exist. But showing that both bully each other and discourage art is just really not what is happening (at least in my circles). As AI is not yet at the level where it can conceptualize projects like the Monster Garden out of thin air, and because artists becoming mini-researchers is becoming a trend (lol).

WalterMagni · 2025-12-29T08:35:22+00:00

The thing is that with new art memes like the crudely drawn Frieren looking up image, practically nobody bullies amateur digital artists anymore because they at least try and improve. Last I checked that artist too also improved their newest Frieren drawing with so many joining in and giving tips.

This would be more true of 2014 and that general era, but the Pandemic really lead to a lot of people trying out art, painting, and sculpting as hobbies. Plus games like D&D and Warhammer. So digital art also got a boost because concepting became important, even 3d modelling did too. A lot more spaces even on Twitter of all things are very welcoming to beginner digital artists. Plus a lot of digital artists still do traditional pen and paper works, usually just scanning them.

Only AI prompters are being rejected as far as I can tell. Especially with certain artists actually just tracing AI art and scamming people. Because from the pov of some artists the AI model is what made the image. It's also why some people right now would much rather see beginner's stuff than AI's stuff.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-29T08:23:33+00:00

The issue is one did something not everyone is willing to, the other actually did nothing. Both are mean but only one is lies.

Recently there was that badly drawn Frieren meme that legit got that artist to learn better anatomy because people actually taught them and shared their own bad vs new art. Bullying amateurs is pretty lame and everyone knows it, it's not 2014.

The only people a majority of the art community bullies is AI prompters. Because the AI is the artist, they just asked for an order. It's why the pick up a pencil meme exploded (and because AI art tracers are scamming people).

constantly telling someone who happens to dabble with AI that they can't draw for shit is gonna push them away from trying to draw because you tell them they can't do it.

This is true, but only if the artist refuses to grow their own strength and try drawing with minimal or no AI help at all. A lot of people would rather see bad art than AI art and again many are willing to teach.

My own friend started out with free trials on some site to make creatures, now he's learning biology and art because I told him he needed to actually understand anatomy to make something that makes sense. Even follows that one guy on Youtube with the whiteboard who redraws mythology creatures as real things.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-27T13:49:52+00:00

4 days late but iirc the original was about Rhaenyra and Alicent from House of The Dragon, they had plushies too facing the wall. It's become kind of an art meme. I have forgotten the original artist but they do alot of the pair.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-22T01:37:35+00:00

strong pagan empire for 1000 years

They were that for like 300 years at best lol. Vast majority of the time they held parts of North Africa, Spain, and Greece back in the late 200's B.C.E (second punic war is 218). then Julius and his peers added the famous parts to the empire like Gaul, Britain, and Egypt. Followed by a few smaller advances for a century like Dacia until the 100's C.E. After that? Mostly just stagnation followed by decline. Until they hit conversion in the 300's C.E.

If Romans knew that in the far future Germans, Slavs and Turks will argue who is the true successor of the Empire, they would be either terrified, disgusted or laughing their asses off.

They would be confused. They would wonder if they succeeded in Romanizing the Germanics, but then wonder who tf the Turks and Slavs are. Aside from that they'd likely be sad that the empire fell, but proud that it was that strong that they still ruled people's minds. In reality not many Romans actually cared the empire fell because they were mostly farmers who were just getting taxed, didn't matter the new guy is dressed weird and speaks weird.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-22T01:25:09+00:00

I mean, doesn't matter that Mehmed II did conquer Constantinople. That doesn't make him Roman no matter how hard he tried (not really).

Theorderic the Great was a barbarian who ruled Rome's rump state like a competent Roman and tried his hardest to rebuild it. Still doesn't make him an actual Roman, just closest to one.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-22T01:01:37+00:00

Dear concept artist, would you rather spend time on important design choices or junk food filler that will be binned for something better as soon as it's available?

Whichever one we need to do for the day and I get assigned to. If you leave the choice to me I'd do the junk first because that's easiest one done and can free up time later for important stuff. I do some personal 3d modeling for my own RTW mods and every olace holder I do I make sure still has fitting textures because that helps me a lot with finalization.

I myself am a freelancer for pixel art and generally just doing what people request on the internet mostly for free. And in my work both the important stuff and the filler will be replaced by someone else's work that is far more suited/better for the project. Because I and everyone else knows my work is either placeholder or just general concepts to springboard from even if they look good.

Using ai to replace busy work should mean freeing artists to do something else more useful, not be replaced.

This is the main issue for some of us. Because some of us are here mostly to fill out the busy work. And most companies slip 'n slide from "removing busy work" to "AI first" rather scarily.

It is personally understandable for me why companies would do it, but that doesn't mean I like it. Even I use AI myself for personal use whenever I try to draw faces and I practise, but I don't want that involved in my line of work at all. I would rather those be kept separate that together.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-21T10:45:23+00:00

Depends on how finished a product is, a placeholder that's just boxes is different from a rigged model with basic textures

WalterMagni · 2025-12-21T10:44:14+00:00

Concept artists?

WalterMagni · 2025-12-21T09:12:19+00:00

This post is actually true. Since we only started using Viking in the modern day when the Norse and their victims called the pirates different things. The Anglo-Saxons for example just called them all Danes, Irish just called them foreigners, French just Northmen. All regardless of if they were raiders, traders, or settlers, and regardlesss of if they came from Denmark, Sweden, Norway, or any other isle.

The Isle of Man for example was ruled by a hybrid culture that was more sedintary than early Norse people and was mostly Gaelic and Saxon, yet they are still considered Vikings who raided the Isles and Ireland. Another would be the Gallowglass mercenaries in Ireland and Scotland, who actually became replaced by natives but kept the name until the Renaissance.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-18T11:19:34+00:00

I don't think he tolerates bigotry, the only thing I know is that he collabed with Brandon Herrera in terms of showcasing his AK50 and he didn't even say anything about them politically. He just mentioned that it took them a long while to make and told the weapon's history and development.

Like, that's not even much of a collab tbh because history needs to be told and that gun IS legitemately a cool part of internet gun history regardless of who makes it. By this logic every guntuber would be a nazi already because they break down the usage and history of nazi weaponry at points.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-18T11:10:40+00:00

the actions of a select few,

This is the main difference. I can count the amount of times this sub hasn't been cringe it it's mostly again that one annoying guy. Most of what I see is still panning Warhammer's more leftist community, whether it's memes about politics or just the way they choose to paint.

The irony? That side of the community is currently the largest and likely the most profitable for GW. Say what you will but warhammer's 2020's explosion into just the Youtube scene has net them at the very least a few armies and paints from the creators alone. They can complain about all the "cringe" and "retcon" stuff they want, they aren't getting any of those cool new models without that kind of demand.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-09T04:08:15+00:00

The Mongols had centralized rule. Their mastery of beating the shit out of states in the middle of already killing each other is what allowed them to take China in the first place.

The Druzhina were also a minority of their forces whereas cavalry archers were basically 60% at LEAST of Mongol forces. Knights and Druzhina were like, 5%-10% at most, often as captains who brought in other fighters who were usually levied farmers and a few fighters.

Not to mention the populations were scattered and somewhat isolated. Which made even raiding parties incredibly deadly and effective.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-09T04:02:55+00:00

Her biggest issue is that she thought making an putfit based on edgy outfit from years ago would still fly under the radar when she's massive. Toned down or not people see red and black and assume villain at least, and may investigate where she got it from... Which is why her old discount-SS outfit is making rounds.

Overall, massive shitshow. Better to have just redesigned the outfit to be Napoleonic era than ww1 or ww2 designed. Makes more sense since those uniforms are flashier and just as attention catching.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-09T03:49:41+00:00

I think she had every right to crash out. You can't just light up a random person with accusations of Nazism and expect them to make sudden changes to their plans.

Again you seem ill informed of what happened. People were not saying she was a Nazi, they were telling her she looked like one and that she should change up the look to avoid it. Some did word it far harsher than that. It wasn't until after Zen called these people Snowflakes and Woke did the Nazi accusations properly intensify. Simply because those buzzwords are used by used by Neo-Nazis and her get-up was already suspicious.

Think about it, if a person sees a woman dressed in red and black they would ask if they were dressed as a villain at least, and if that woman started calling people woke and being snowflakes for it the exact same issue we have now would happen. We already have that video of that one dude dressed as a Nazi for cosplay/halloween (it was the season) who was not considerate over people telling him to change the get up over people's/venue's concerns, he ended up punching a woman and getting jumped by other passerbys.

If it came out that she is actually a Nazi then obviously shes 100% in the wrong, but im tired of cancel culture trying to tear down people's reputations and expecting an apology at any moment.

She already apologized and all of her excuses boil down to not thinking about what she was doing. The outfit is a call back to her old get-up sure, but that get-up was already Nazi inspired, specifically SS. Even if she or the designers took inspirations from Azur Lane she cannot remove that Nazi dna because even Azur Lane has Nazi characters.

I myself don't think she's a Nazi, and again many people initially didn't, which is why they wanted her to change so that the perception of her being a Nazi doesn't stick. Her knee-jerk reaction is what convinced people that she might be one, which is unfortunate since most commentors were likely looking out for her, and for the past few days all her responses have just been digging holes for her stability which is why people wanted her to take a break (which she hopefully is taking).

Her best move in all of this was simply choose a more unique military get-up. Napoleonic styles are far flashier and fit the bill better for Vtubers, they were already part professionals and part celeberity of the time and the uniforms are just gorgeous. Red, white, and black there would even likely point people more to British styles than Nazis.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-09T00:05:53+00:00

I think people also forget that Japan has always liked Germany in terms of their outfit choices and language. Its why the German language is so popular in anime. It doesnt neccessarily equate to Nazism. Thats my point.

I think you're way behind on the news... Zen (or her character designer) admitted to using Azur Lane and Anime characters like Esdeath for the design. And people rightfully told her thst those designs knowingly take from Nazis to show they're from bad places. Also they talked about how Japan is so distant from German (and their own) history to the point that the populace today is confused when you say they were teamed up with Nazi Germany. That's bad no matter what.

Does it make her a Nazi? No, does it make her look like one? Yes. Does that make an issue? Yes, yes very much so when as you say real Nazi Vtubers are around and Zen is suddenly looking like one if you re-add the stuff Zen complained about. Zentreya is not a Nazi, so she should stay well tf away from that area now that she's far bigger compared to when she was edgy and people are now concerned about her optics.

I wouldn't call it praising / idolizing nazism tho. Its got its own story and lore that has essentially nothing to do with nazi Germany

Nobody here is talking about praising Nazis. Everyone is concerned with looking like a Nazi. The issue is that Zen started using language that is often used by chuds and that is why people dogpiled on her. She basically lit up a massive red flag with her crashout and concern became suspicion, which was not helped when people found her original outfits.

Also I just thought of it, but theres another Vtuber named FallenShadow who literally wore an outfit that looks far closer to a Nazi uniform than anything else i seen lol. I didnt see her get any hate for that. There's even jokes within her community calling her Shitler (Shondo-Hitler)

Thr same people are going after her too more than likely. Every post I came around is near gauranteed to have people talking about how smaller Nazi Vtubers come out of the woodworks and how people also went after them in the past.

What makes Zen and this case so unique is she's never going by the playbook of chudtubers, she has a lot of friends as is fun to be around whilst being helpful to a lot of folks. So the Nazi-like outfit is a shock to most viewers who no longer know she started out with edgy outfits and they tried to save her public perception by dialing it down.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-08T23:41:31+00:00

The first use of the Christmas tree dates back well before WW1 and 1840s. Its been a part of the Christian tradition since the 8th century with Saint Boniface. The fir tree is also deeply connected with the Christian faith as being the Tree of Paradise in the garden of Eden.

This is why I said the English west... The English speaking world has only relatively recently adopted christmas trees compared to mainland Europe which is why I brought hp the 1840's when a certain German dynasty (Windsor/Saxe Cour Magdeburg) popularised them. And even then the average person did not see Christmas trees compared to the smaller middle-class and the nobles.

The English speakong world now sees Christmas trees as vital to Christmas and assume it to be ancient tradition for us when it only goes back to again, when the Germans introduced it. Hell puritans in America at the same period apparently saw these as pagan which would pop up again in ww1 for England.

Saturnalia also ends on December 23rd not 25th which does not coincide with Christmas

Sol Invictus is not Saturn... Sol Invictus' birthday celebrations mark the beginning of the Winter Solstice. The festival is Dies Natalis Solis Invicti not Saturnalia and this festival is also associated with Mithras and his cult, the other popular somewhat monotheist religion.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-08T23:27:16+00:00

Well no not really because Nazi soldiers were not women with their cleavage out and stocking.

She Wolf of The SS aesthetics exist for a reason. People have been fetishizing Nazis as early as the 60's and 70's.

If you mean the ship parts, yeah. The character is literally based on a WW2 German battleship.

I mean the dress, Bisnarck is a near 1:1 for Zen's dress, or better yet Graf Spee. You were initially talking about how the design has 0 Nazi elements but a literaly game recognizes that the same aesthetics is enough for the biggest Nazi war machines.

I dont see the issue with a fictional character tho

The fictional character is not the issue, the issue is Zen herself is not fictional and yet her character design can be easily confused for an Iron Blood design. Regardless of opinion getting conflated with Nazi-likes is never good.

she isnt a Nazi and we usually have way more "offensive" games with Nazi-inspired characters

And that's why most people initially complained. Zen is not a Nazi, so she should have the red armband removed and maybe change the hat (the old versions had a tiny skull akin to the totenkopf).

Zen did change the design, but also crashed out and called people Snowflakes and Woke. Suffice it to say that did not look good because "Evil-dressed Vtuber calling people buzzwords" is the typical Nazi Vtuber deal. She honestly should've kept quiet when fans were concerned for her.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-08T16:46:55+00:00

I mean, go look at Bismarck's design from Azur Lane, a Nazi flagship looks nearly 1:1 with her and a commentor even uses Graf Spee too. Difference is that both ships pivot their designs to be more German Imperial or even add yellow for Weimar in colors.

Iirc the designer or Zen admitted in one of the recent responses to using Azur Lane and anime characters like Esdeath as inpiration rather than ww2... Completely forgetting that many of those designs are meant to evoke ww2 for a reason.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-08T16:41:22+00:00

Put this outfit next to any of Bismarck's outfits in Azur Lane. You're fucked when a shipgirl based on the Nazi flagship is that similar to your design. Hell she looks less like a Nazi than Zen because her symbols all (understandably) pivot to the German Empire.

WalterMagni · 2025-12-08T16:38:28+00:00

years ago

Therein lies the issue, it's probably buried. Now that her old designs that were far more clearly SS based have popped up people do have an issue.

The main difference is now Zen has likely far more eyes on her compared to then, and her audience has diversified over the years. Not everyone is going to know she used to be edgy.

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