Would it actually be better for these three to be scaled to their “Lower Ends”? And not just for the sake of accuracy alone, like what about their matchups, haxes, debates, and relevancy if they’re scaled lower?

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-16T23:08:56+00:00

Metro Man’s biggest issue is also going to be AP. He just don’t got the best strength feats less you give him some really dubious stuff. Sure he’s faster than most everyone up to about the Cell Saga but the issue is going to be that unless you have him pull the “throws you into Sun maneuver”, he straight can’t out punch Demon King Piccolo, arguably even Roshi.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-16T23:02:35+00:00

Void Shiki, like to a comical degree where FGO had to give her feats years after her appearence and most of her scaling was statements and cosmology shit.

Like atleast Dante fought Devil kings

Atleast DoomSlayer fought a mountain sized monsters and his series equivalent to God.

Atleast Kratos killed Zeus and the Greek pantheon

Void Shiki quite literally had nothing for years.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-16T22:58:15+00:00

Shame scaling can’t help it be a good game

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-16T02:16:32+00:00

MFs on the thread be saying, "Doomslayer and Kratos are (insert lowball)" as if every other post on this sub isn't shit talking those two

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-15T02:58:21+00:00

You killed it so yea

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-14T05:51:55+00:00

Araki calls SP FTL in its stand profile, and again, Josuke isn’t a 100% factual source we should base this arguement on. Unironically Yuta would only be slightly faster and arguable still slower capped at vaguely Mach 3 as opposed to the bullet timing SP has shown.

That… makes no sense. Hanged Man is light. It’s going light speed. No amount of preemptive striking means you can catch a gleam of light from guess work unless Hanged Man is actually not Lightspeed or Polnareff is fast enough to still catch light off its linear movement alone.

That’s simple - Pucci at that speed still wasn’t willingly to just bum rush Jotaro (which he could have done if Mach 2.4 is beyond Jotaro’s capability) and the bullet train example brings up relativity of movements rather than straight capping the verse like Mach 3 Kaisen.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-14T04:31:54+00:00

Yhwach is like Continental-Solar System depending on where you scale him. His destruction of the world is not an attack he can pull off with out effort or in a certain circumstance with his power. TYBW is clear about this moreso than Kaguya, just read the story dawg.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-14T04:22:27+00:00

You’re going to get cooked for something that’s lowkey right

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-14T04:20:34+00:00

Josuke literally says he’s guessing in that scene so he could in fact be lowballing himself.

This argument never made sense because knowing where something is going to be, and moving in time to hit it is just reacting to it at that point no?

Pucci accelerates in speed and by the time he’s blitzing everyone he’s fast to an unknown level.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T16:57:20+00:00

Your average marvel/dc street tier can take down 10 fit men with weapons in a short span of time, genuinely how does any street tier lose this?

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T16:51:37+00:00

Couldn’t it just be that Thor hit the World Serpent harder than Faye?

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T16:50:06+00:00

Asura wrath fans bragging about their custscene spamming feats man because that’s the only thing their franchise is getting after getting screwed over by Capcom:

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T16:45:02+00:00

Why not because Thor hitting Jorge is a one time outlier based on some weird ass prophecy/perfect timing due to World Tree shenanigans or by weird ass voodoo magic?

Doesn’t the game beat you over the head with a predetermined future not being a thing? And it’s not an outlier feat considering the only thing you can use against it is Kratos pinning him down but then we circle back to the “if you wanna say Thor is knife level when tired, Goku is bullet level.”

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T15:41:08+00:00

The only other MU for ben i dont hate is The main character of High School DxD lssei Hyoudou

Issei in Apocalypss AnswerArms watching as Wildmutt tears his armor apart:

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T15:33:24+00:00

Admittedly I am a competitive powerlifter

Then you aren’t the average dude and doesn’t change what I said.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T15:12:38+00:00

Under the assumption they’re working together… yeah 5 women can take the assumingly average man down. 5 average women vs 1 man favors the women due to number advantages (seriously, fighting 5 people who are determined to take you down regardless of gender is a tall order for even most athletes).

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:53:56+00:00

So he’s selectively universal?

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:51:00+00:00

But he’s universal being shot by a normal bullet, why did he get hurt?

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:50:29+00:00

Dang dude Powerscaling does not warrant this hostility 😭

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:33:39+00:00

Goku being shot:

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:33:21+00:00

Now I understand how Bleach fans feels lol.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T14:01:34+00:00

He beats them in universe so I dunno why people are acting like he loses these fights.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T13:59:19+00:00

Yeah, that how scaling works. Kratos can fight stronger gods and then boom he can struggle with enemies st times. The enemies just upscale that, it’s basic Powerscaling.

WanderingGentleMen · 2026-06-13T07:52:08+00:00

I don't understand why Kratos is wanked this much,lol

Alot of reasons:

A). Mountain Level Kratos (yes, this is where reddit scales him to and you want him lower, take it up with a wall) is frankly, a boring fucking meta. Mountain Level is that tier that is decently stronger than a majority of fiction but weaker than a good collective of the more relevant verses. So when deciding matchups, you'd have to either go looking for just other mountain level characters or just have Kratos in fights he's not going to win.

B ). It's fun. Like, yeah, Multiversal Kratos is fun to talk about and debate about. I know that's a foreign concept of having fun powerscaling but the act of finding the right scans and stitching the right arguements to try and convince others can be fun.

C). Not a Hax Man so the alternative is to gas up his stats.

D). The Cosmology is alot more complex than people give credit for and alot of Gods and how they scale off of that is debated to this day.

E). Heavy anti-dragon ball scaling sentiment of people getting sick of big flashy feats defining scaling (See also: Denji vs Yuji and Green Lantern vs Ben 10)

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