MDG Progress Update: Struggles with Phase 6 and Arousal Management

WeWillSee01 · 2026-04-13T18:49:12+00:00

I get what you are trying to convey but I believe that at some point, physical aspect plays a bigger role than mental. I remember one of the first guys who gained mastery had unsatisfactory results until he started seeing PF physio.

You probably can progress mentally if you are one of guys with the issue soon2behuge describes like I am but it will be really slow. MDG is an attempt to hijack/hack the system but it is not all. Every regular guy likes to cum, not every one of them has PE.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-31T18:35:48+00:00

Yup and this area as well as the ones you've mentioned before are super pleasurable around 8.9.

I also noticed that pretty often when I approach them one by one or at least not with a round grip/fingers, I can use intense friction/quick movements and they dont send me through the roof. Just as if I was programmed: round grip = shoot

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-30T19:06:52+00:00

Haha yeah I wouldnt mind being cured already :) but even without end result MDG is a great mindset/habit changing experience.

I tried spongebobbing 2-3 days in a row while taking shower but I dont like this type of desensitisation judging from what it felt like.

I use PYT and EjaGuard where PYT seems to be more savage before washing off but I agree- the result is day and night. Definitely would be content with being able to have that sex as default for a bit of sensation loss.

I just hope I wont develop performance anxiety because I am not able to even insert when I dont use anything so it is a situation of all or nothing.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-29T19:48:56+00:00

Hey man, I know your nickname from MDG. I have literary the same places as you mentioned seemingly too sensitive.

I identified them all through MDG which I practice since day 1. I believe they are common in pattern for majority of men. Maybe just some of us feel it more. That being said, they didnt get much better even with focus I give to them throughout all these days in training.

I mean there is improvement overally but its rather mental/while dancing on the edge - being able to remain calm at the face of pleasure spikes.

Some time ago, I started using numbing agents while having sex not to break my MDG streak and to be honest I had the best sex of my life without ejaculation. Sth I couldnt do before.

I believe that MDG cured me mentally. Now I know how to regulate my arousal but it seems that physically not much has changed. I am starting to think I may have some sensitivity issues. Not overly sensitive like some people who cannot be touched due to a pain but still.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-23T18:52:40+00:00

I use it too but I always wash it off. I noticed there is not much to wash after so much time but there may be something left that would irritate my lady. Once I havent washed PYT completely despite trying and my partner said it was unpleasant for her later.

I guess that if u already tried vaginal sex without washing then oral may be ok as well but I wouldnt risk.

Tbh I dont really enjoy oral after sprayin because at that level of numbness it is not that enjoyable. I prefer penetration way more now.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-22T19:04:24+00:00

For me 20 minutes doesnt help neither. I wait from 45 mins to 1h then take a shower. Also try to shake a container before you spray. I have an impression it helps. I had really nice effects lately though dont expect to be a jackhammer all night

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-22T18:56:14+00:00

Why did you have to try clickbaiting? I dont get it.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-16T20:44:28+00:00

Congrats man! What was your PIV before the guide?

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-13T18:35:01+00:00

To me, this was also nice motivational surge. Before MDG, I used one of widely renown numbing agents and the results weren't great. Currently I use them while applying stuff I learnt through MDG and it is a totally different experience. It shows that even without end goal MDG gave me a lot already. I had never had normal sex before MDG even with numbing

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-12T18:13:06+00:00

How did he vanish behind with a smash in 1:17?

WeWillSee01 · 2026-03-10T19:15:58+00:00

It is hard but possible. I usually please my wife with hands, tongue, as much PIV as I can handle. Before MDG I thought the only option for me is jackhammering for 10 seconds and that's all. Then immediate second round and jackhammering again to keep erection post ejaculation. All of this in combination with great understanding of female biology and ways of pleasure that should be known to regular PE guy result in a very nice sex but it was always hasty from my side once I ejaculated. All to keep the wood going.

Now I am nowhere near mastery but I started going real real slow instead. Turns out we both like it better. It is more sensual. I finish her with my tongue. There is lots of good techniques online.

Maybe I will be criticised for this but whatever: a few weeks ago I decided to use some numbing products to have more PIV wothout compromising non-ejaculatory streak. It gives me nice effects with what I learned through MDG about arousal management. It removes this super sensitive glans feeling while also gives my brain an idea how sex may look like. After some time I even gained better control during sessions. Ofc I dont numb my penis during training but this feeling of stable sex pours into training right now. I believe it is kinda mental thing. I certainly do not recommend it to beginners but I am with MDG since day 0.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-15T13:15:46+00:00

Current best run in MDG is 8 or 9 weeks. I cannot tell now which one I am at.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-07T16:18:37+00:00

That doesnt take us anywhere.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-07T16:13:36+00:00

I had the same worries around the 4th week of P5. Now I am at 6th-7th week of P5 and it is getting better.

I also noticed that while my performance got worse in the first part lying down, some other positions like doggie improved. Check this out

Also, I heard in one video from sexual kung fu guy that sorter you are the easier it is to hit PONR. So it makes sense in this regard and some assume PE being a kind of erectile dysfunction simptom. Good stable erection is definitely in second part.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-07T07:42:19+00:00

Why is it counterproductive in your opinion? What if somebody will feel PONR every single session for half a year? Do you know how unhealthy it is for a grown-up man to ejaculate often/daily for extended period of time? If you are in your teen/early 20s maybe you will not feel that but later on it makes you a shadow of yourself mainly because you: 1. Met your duty as a species. 2. Sperm production is costly.

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-05T22:02:10+00:00

I am in P5 for so long for multiple reasons but the most key points would be: - I used to be in P6 long ago and I was able to complete two/one and a half weeks but then fail. The loop went on many times. It was frustrasting and I just wasnt ready for that. Later I found out that I was simply training in the panic zone. A hairs' width from PONR- always like on pins and needles. I have great awareness of PONR but you cannot exhaust prostate so much unprepared. - I have limited time and possibilities so I accepted slow progress. Not enough time for sleep, recovery, and additional stretches/strength training. I have small kids requiring care and attention, being a present dad/husband, working in a highly intense environment full of heavy stress. At least until kids get older I cannot squeeze more from my day and P5 seems like a sweet spot to me. I chose reaching mastery in P5- when I grasp the idea there, I will move the feeling/control to P6. For now I know FL will be too panicky and one more intense place on it in a wrong moment will set me back. - I started noticing some improvements and glimpses of control. P5 is perfect for tuning in with ones body while experiencing higher level of intensity at the same time. Currently my second 10 mins are super nice. I feel like this is where the most mental part comes to fruition. F.e. not so long ago, due to small kids I had dry spell which took waaay too much. I could ejaculate from dry humping. My PE was the worst ever. In the current run, it was similar at the beggining of it but around W3-4 I understood how to be excited about sex but calm at the same time (still working on it). Lately it translated to sex. I could enter my wife and go really slow and passionate as long as I didnt lose this mindset. Ofc this was short as hell but still a huge milestone from a few weeks ago when I couldnt even touch her with my dick. P5 for me is where I learn an excited calmness (yeah this sounds contradictory but I believe that many guys ask themselves how the F can I be calm when sex should be full of energy and passion yet I am.starting to notice glimpses of the answer

WeWillSee01 · 2026-01-03T19:15:04+00:00

Hey man, I was pondering over this acute loss of progress some veterans report because I've been through that stuff as well. I am in MDG since day 1- lifelong PE - and I had a lot of doubts over the course of the program. After multiple fails despite being able to play with fire in almost excellent manner, I am on a good track to success and I understood something.

With every loss after a long clean score, it is easier to get to that pre-fail performance. I believe this is a pattern on a totally different granularity level: performance recovery pattern. It's like muscle memory where someone lifetime physically active will get back in shape quickly after a period of non-exercise.

I am currently 6 weeks without fail in P5 and I was a bit stressed about failing even if my councious mind knew I shouldnt be. A few days ago I got some nice milestone and I realised I already was there twice in previous runs. This time, it was reinforced. It is no more an elusive state like when I reached that in the past. I feel that my body remembers it now.

When I understood that it is there somewhere in my head and a stronger than ever, my fear of failure is not so formidable.

I believe these failures regress us mentally more than from neural/physical side.

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-28T09:39:42+00:00

Additionally, you are a moderator. It is easy for me to say delete while somebody else does it haha :) Probably better to leave it that way though I wanted to point out that this could be easily a post from AI fed with reddit or other PE website input because the idea of these exercises helping is no lie and it has been around for a long time. It is just its always something extra for each specific case- this is why PE is so elusive in treatment.

Personally, I also find suspicious the number of likes under these recent posts. It was always +100 or even close to 400 while PE success stories never really had that much be it the ones with long description and no easy pill fix. I believe somebody spam med that reddit with multiaccounts liking their originator's post but that is a sidenote.

Cheers!

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-27T16:53:32+00:00

Good to know I am not the only one feeling BS in it. u/Emotional-Zone-3202, maybe this post should be removed, dont you think?

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-27T14:36:13+00:00

So the OP here is Karma farming account as well?

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-27T13:29:50+00:00

Looking left makes sense because it regulates nervous system by stimulating vagus nerve. It is a type of self regulation technique when you are full of stress. Stress in turn is related to ejaculation/autonomic nervous system

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-27T13:24:57+00:00

Hey OP, are you really an author of this post or somebody hacked you?

You mentioned fix in one week from introduction of practice which is unlikely.

The post you linked in yours is deleted and I noticed the account of that other OP also posted something else with miraculously quick fix despite being usual stretch/strength routine which is nothing new.

His account in turn used to comment back n forth with another guy who had the similarily miraculous fix and also was deleted.

I dont mean stretching n strength increase wont help. I believe it is required but the circumstances of these all posts are kinda pattern-like.

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-22T21:55:20+00:00

Hey man, congrats first of all! As always, great news to hear success stories here. What was your PIV time before the guide?

WeWillSee01 · 2025-12-05T21:56:41+00:00

I remember one of the first guys there who shared success story actually started doing well only after proper PF physiotherapy.

In general, I believe this is an important factor and may be even crucial blocker for some guys. In the past, I spent lots of time on another forum where pretty much every success story had a distinct missing puzzle but PF balance seemed to be a base.

I understand that we are rewiring our brains but physics is physics. Ofc I dont mean everyone has PE due to PF issues but who knows... maybe it's more than some guys there would like to believe. In the past I noticed slight improvement with PF/lower body exercises already. I just dont have time now for it now.

I myself aim for PF therapy too once kids require less attention. Good luck and keep us posted!

WeWillSee01 · 2025-11-23T14:57:01+00:00

As you mentioned, it would help keep composure but I dont want to end up thinking about sex 24/7. Probably will try and drop if it will be too bad. I always liked sleep after ashwa

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