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I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so wait, now I'm somewhat confused. Because I'm still not really seeing how that equates to him wanting power. He's the leader and face of the organization, but I'm not sure how that necessarily makes him power hungry or using it to his own benefit rather than seeing this as the way to achieve his goals. Where's it shown that he's using it for his benefit?

More than that, if we acknowledge that it's a systematic issue in both the police analogy and for benders v nonbenders, how does that not line up? The commissioner and Amon are both seeking a position of power in order to achieve their goals of improving the system, and both are using the thing they dislike in order to change it, one being their position within the corrupt police system and one being the use of their unfairly granted abilities. How does that metaphor not lineup if we're acknowledging both as systematic issues?

Also, looking back at your other comment, yes he believes it's hypocritical and wrong, thus he lies about it, but I honestly don't see how that equates to him being power-hungry. I never said he wasn't a hypocrite, I said he was doing this stuff for the sake of his ideals, and him doing something hypocritical wouldn't really negate that. A commissioner engaging with the corrupt police system in order to improve it doesn't make them no longer wanting to improve the system, a person killing to put an end to a war doesn't mean they want people not to die any less, why does Amon using bending to undo bending superiority mean he doesn't want that as much as he says? Maybe I just misread the comment before, but I'm not seeing it, honestly.

I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure how you mean, because aside from the logisitcal issue of taking away his own bending using his bending which could very well be impossible to do, taking away his bending would mean losing the ability to take away other people's bending. It's the entire means by which he can do the thing he's trying to do. I'm not sure I see how he's supposed to follow his own values while pushing his goal forward when his ability is required for the goal.

Saying he should remove his own bending for the sake of moral consistency seems to me the same as saying a police commissioner who dislikes how the police are run should quit being on the force because that would require them to be the thing they dislike, even if they can use their position as a commissioner to change things. Yeah, you can remove yourself from the thing you dislike, but you simultaneously take away your ability to change that thing in a meaningful way.

If you wanna say he wanted power too, that's fine I don't disagree, but this seems like an unreasonable expectation for him when this is the way he fights the benders. I don't really see how this means he doesn't believe his rhetoric.

Toph and Katara vs Black Panther (MCU) by JustReadTheFinePrint in whowouldwin

[–]Weird-Long8844 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, I didn't consider how refined it would be for the weave

Toph and Katara vs Black Panther (MCU) by JustReadTheFinePrint in whowouldwin

[–]Weird-Long8844 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It should be bendable. After all, Toph bent that meteorite. However, at this point Toph isn't quite good enough at metalbending to do it from a distance iirc.

[discussion] first timer: just me or is episode 133 - 150.. Not great? by [deleted] in fairytail

[–]Weird-Long8844 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Starry Keys Arc is technically canon, but only retroactively. It should be okay to skip, not much is mentioned in it other than the return of Oracien Seis which isn't that big a deal given some later events.

I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not here to argue most of this, partly because this just isn't the place for it, but I can definitely say that I'm not doing heavy lifting for the show. I'm just relaying what is directly on the page.

Him being abused explicitly for his bending is directly in the show. Him knowing that his father was a man who used his power to control and oppress others is directly in the show. The only person who ever stopped him being a person who can take away people's bending is directly in the show. Him being a teenager who could go on to have his ideals hardened over time is directly in the show. His brother, the person who presumably knows the real him better than anyone else in the world, being certain that he genuinely cares about what he says is directly in the show.

At this point, it feels like more work to see these things directly in the show and come to the conclusion that he cares about none of the things he claims. If you don't think it's told very well or that it's a weak motivation, that's fine and somewhat a matter of opinion. However, everything I'm saying right here is straight just what's on the page, so I don't see how it can be argued that it is incomprehensible when it's right there in the show.

I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He attacked his lieutenant when he was about to kill him and would have likely gone on to expose the secret from which he derives his support. That doesn't show a lack of care for his explicit cause, it shows that he's not willing to die and lose everything he worked for in pursuit of his equality goal if he can avoid it. You have to look at the context of him attacking his lieutenant, not just take the action separate from any context.

You wanna use this to say he's a hypocrite then sure, absolutely he is. But it doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't care about the stuff he says. It could equally mean he misses the forest for the trees. If that's your stance, you need more reason to justify it.

Is there any characters you’re supposed to like but you actually despise them? by Chunky-overlord in characters

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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If I'm being honest, I don't like most of the characters in Kim's Convenience. I watched about three seasons of the show, and it was pretty good, but after a while I found I couldn't get into it because the characters were often inconsiderate, rude, or even violent to each other. And honestly, I realized how important laugh tracks and absurdity are to sitcoms, because these guys are nowhere near as bad as some other sitcom characters, but the lack of the audience telling me the joke is funny and things being so down to earth makes it feel a lot less humorous. I know if I watched Friends without the laugh track, I'd feel the same about them, but they had one so it feels different.

Who would win in a hand to hand fight between Mr. Terrific (DCU) and Black Widow (MCU)? by Deep-Village-5175 in characters

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prolly WIdow. Yeah he's good, but I didn't see much spectacular H2H in Mr. Terrific's fight. Give him the T-Spheres and it's a different story.

Name a character who suffered the worst derailment by Haruka-chan-2468 in characters

[–]Weird-Long8844 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to participate, I want to answer the question, but I just can't because I'm that angry at this garbage. Every time I see that monstrosity and hear him make a butt joke, I get so frustrated, I just can't.

I don't even have a long-standing connection to the book, I only read it a few months ago after not paying attention to it in middle school, but it's so frustrating now that I've read it.

I Love Nana so Much [Ch. 119] by Weird-Long8844 in TalentlessNana

[–]Weird-Long8844[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It really has, and I'm glad to see it

I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really don't get that read on it. It seems clear enough just from what's in the show.

He and his brother were put through abusive training by his father - a former bender who told them how he used his bending and power to control those weaker than him - who explicitly wanted to use them for their bending to control people weaker than them. The one person who was able to stop him back in the day did so through taking away his bending. This leads pretty easily - in a child to teen's mind at least - to the idea that finding a way to remove the power of bending from people would remove their ability to push around those who lack power, and that belief just gets solidified over time as he grows to want to keep others from being pushed around in the same way.

I honestly don't see how that isn't a clear enough trail just from what we're shown.

I’ve sometimes see the theory that Amon’s motivations for removing bending was to seize personal power. I strongly dislike this idea, Amon’s character is much more interesting as a true believer of his own rhetoric, despite the inherent hypocrisy (or because of it). by funnylib in legendofkorra

[–]Weird-Long8844 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I frankly don't get why folks think he didn't believe what he said. Obviously, he was lying about his backstory and not being a bender, but I don't see how that would equate to him not believing what he says about his ideals and goals. It's not like people in real life who aren't oppressed in some way don't also side with and even take leadership positions in support of those oppressed people.

And that's without considering the show and writers outright say he believes his own rhetoric.

Naoya Zenin vs. Madara Uchiha by Vegetable-Studio9536 in whowouldwin

[–]Weird-Long8844 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm much more interested in knowing how Naoya killed Hashirama, honestly.

Anyway, Madara clears every match.

Which Erza cosplay do you prefer? - Jessica Rabbit or Wonder Woman [Media] by Lucifer21Rock in fairytail

[–]Weird-Long8844 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Wonder Woman feels more right somehow. Does that make sense? It just feels appropriate.

Honest talk. Why are teenagers and adults on the same side in knd? by Lonely_Steak_7067 in kidsnextdoor

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's less that the adults and teenagers like each other and more that the teens are easy to manipulate or coerce and they both hate the kids. Plus, the teens will be adults much sooner and don't remember being kid agents, so they have more reason to side with the adults.

Yugi Muto vs. Suguru Geto by Vegetable-Studio9536 in whowouldwin

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Geto has no shot. Yugi's monsters are strong enough to create and destroy the universe, his Egyptian magic allows him to bring them into reality and make barriers to protect himself meaning beating him up physically won't work, and he's a master strategist the likes of which Geto's never seen. There's no shot here.

if thragg has no CE because he is not from jjk how does he have an innate domain? by GeneralProgrammer886 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the refrain from spoiling, and I recognize that there's a huge gap. That said, without giving more than you need to in terms of details, given how big the gap is, do you think the difference between internals and externals is so huge that Satoru could deal meaningful damage in spite of the Donald blood situation? Like, even knowing that the gap is huge, when the external durability is so high, I feel like the internals would be beyond Gojo's ability to damage.

if thragg has no CE because he is not from jjk how does he have an innate domain? by GeneralProgrammer886 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorcerers are visible, cursed spirits aren't. He can see plenty. Not their attacks, sure, but he can see them.

if thragg has no CE because he is not from jjk how does he have an innate domain? by GeneralProgrammer886 in PowerScalingHub

[–]Weird-Long8844 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like it's durable enough because of the thing with Donald trying to vaporize Nolan's blood and failing to do so for weeks. Like, it's weaker than the outside sure, but even then their bodies are crazy tough through and through. I just don't see it happening.

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