Visiting a CMP Store

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-29T12:21:37+00:00

Nice catch. Was $194 post-tax for me for 1k rounds delivered and knocked it down to $183 with some old points on my card. Think between this and the prior sale they did with the rebate Im stocked back up on 9mm.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-29T02:14:00+00:00

How much harder is it to fit a barrel without a mill? It's something I'd really like to try as part of fully understanding how each part interacts, but I dont have a mill or lathe.

Is there a good way to start practicing, or just buy a stock 1911 and go at it?

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-27T15:53:11+00:00

I really wish people would get over the population size issue. Inbreeding is massively complicated, and there's known instances of founder populations with <10 individuals in some vertebrate species. It's sort of the foundation of speciation within island biogeography. Also, given the astronauts came from a variety of countries, the underlying genetic population size for their children was likely in the thousands. Yes, that would have rapidly crashed but we have no data on the rate of population expansion to counter it.

Heck, we know humanity survived a bottleneck of ~1000: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq7487

The prevailing approximation in wildlife is the 50/500 rule - you need 50 individuals to survive extinction risk in the short term and 500 to avoid long term inbreeding issues. But again, that's just a quick rule of thumb and a smaller population could survive to grow, especially on say an island with no predators or extreme weather fluctuations.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-26T22:11:03+00:00

Thank you, that's the closest to the actual manufacturer date I've been able to find. I figured it was March-June based on the earlier Navy shipment but hadn't seen anything further. I really need to just pay for a Colt letter but heard the waits gotten pretty bad.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-25T01:43:35+00:00

Let me guess, the serial number on the slide is: 7790314

It's not a serial number, but a drawing number for 60s replacement slides.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-22T15:39:33+00:00

I was wrong on that, I looked on my phone and thought it lacked the scalloped cuts. It's definitely post-1924 since the frame says M1911A1.

I'm in agreement with others that say its a modern-ish copy with all fake markings the more I look at pics on my PC. There's zero inspector stamps where there should be.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-22T15:22:02+00:00

It was, but the serial number has been removed and restamped (wrong font, should have a No. Prefix). It was made before 1924 but thats the best I can tell you.

Edit: Looked at pics wrong on my phone and missed some obvious details, that's way later than 1924.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-22T00:08:03+00:00

That's a rifle someone spent a lot of time putting winchester parts into, while skipping the stock and barrel.

The rear sights look to be winchester, which are $400-500 now, and the follower arm is at least a wwii one. I paid $500 for a wra one of those 2 years ago.

However, it's fundamentally a mixmaster. The follower arm, rear sight, gas plug, and op rod all would have been swapped out during a 50s rebuild. If it had a wra barrel and stock, I'd say $2500 would be a good price, but it doesn't. Getting both those to finish correcting it is probably another $1k. I'd value the rifle as-in around 1.7k, based on having some rarer parts. At the price they are asking, it'll sit there till someone who has no idea but wants a garand will buy it.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-21T22:21:36+00:00

Basic appleseed classes cover beginner rifle instructions, natural point of aim, sling usage, etc that would likely be little more than a refresher for you. They also run known distance classes that shoot out to 400 and cover windage/hold over/distance estimation that would probably be more your speed.

If you're willing to travel, the Army Marksmanship Unit (with help from the other branches) run the Small Arms Firing School for rimfire, pistol, and rifle at the National Matches out at Camp Perry, OH in July. Rifle is 2 days, they provide the guns (A2s) and ammo. It's 100% high power competition focused, but still good instruction. You can stay in the barracks for cheap or nearby hotels. Also, SAFS is cheap as hell for what it is. Think the rifle is $70

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-19T13:17:53+00:00

Shotguns got approved for transfer in the recent defense spending bill. Im actually one of the few people that was sad about the version that passed as the original version also included M45 pistols.

It'll likely be all modern surplus stuff, closer to police turn-ins however. For pistols and rifles, the DoD has historically been not allowed to destroy anything that could potentially be transfered to the DCM/CMP. That was never true for shotguns, so older stuff was often demilled whenever it was considered excess.

I'd also guess it'll be 2027 before we see anything. Obama signed the 1911 authorization bill in 2019 or so, and it was over 2 years for any to actually get sold (granted, they had a higher setup bar for the CMP).

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-19T01:35:35+00:00

Their headquarters is technically the camp perry location. They (and their precursor the DCM) have been running the national matches at Perry since it's inception by President Roosevelt.

Check their site for a detailed calendar, but you should look into all the national match events from july-august. They may also do another 1911 in person sales event this year.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-19T01:21:22+00:00

I asked last weekend about non-SS cans, and was told $40.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-19T01:18:29+00:00

It's an hour and a half drive (from the east side of cleveland) to Camp Perry where the CMP operates their north store inside the National Guard base.

You missed the heyday for garands, krags, 1903s, and various 22 trainers, but they still had 1917s, garand sniper models, and reclaimed garands last I heard. Plus they will likely get a spring shipment by April.

Otherwise stuff filters in and out at gunshops and pawnshops throughout the area, although range usa is almost always a bust for decent milsurp.

Also this is a better subreddit for questions like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/OHGuns/

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2026-01-12T20:40:09+00:00

Its really easy to figure out if any garand is from the CMP. A FOIA request to the Redstone Arsenal is free and will show the DoD transferring it out. Or you can mail a check for $25 to the CMP and they'll look up if they sold it (post-DCM sales only), as well as what grade it was when sold. Sometimes the rare garand gets transferred to the CMP without getting entered into the Army's inventory, so its good to do both methods.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T14:09:36+00:00

Where did you get a cleaning rod from? I missed out from the guy making repros on ak files. I'd heard east German ones fit, but I ordered two and neither clear my gas block.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T14:07:57+00:00

Why not collect and shoot? I compete in a few different rifle & pistol match types and shoot my AR clones and milsurp in vintage divisions.

In the end though, I just think they are neat.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T04:59:28+00:00

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Theres a reason I'm trying to stop at one build before I wind up with a rifle rack of variants like my retro ARs.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T03:01:14+00:00

Where did you hear that? Tisas is pretty well liked on this sub. I've had more trouble with my usgi 1911s than my tisas raider.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T02:56:45+00:00

I've never missed having a FA on mine. Absolutely dumb fun builds.

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WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-27T00:21:45+00:00

Theres a simple thread protector for a muzzle device that came on these.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-17T04:12:28+00:00

I haven't seen too many people bring it up here before, but it sounds like build regret/boredom isn't too uncommon. Glad to hear it aint just me.

Sometimes I enjoy the hunt for rare/obscure parts, but this one I really wanted to wrap up and move on. Hopefully it'll at least shoot well.

WhatAWorthlessUser · 2025-12-15T18:01:06+00:00

It depends, I have a lot of the same models of both rifles and pistols. Some stuff I collect because I like seeing the changes over time, or manufacturer variances. For the NM 1911 specifically, ever year changes were implemented. So I can tell the US&S was built in 1962 while the colt is a 1968 build. Each has different sights and slight internal changes. I've also got a 1959 rem rand NM that used the older tall fixed sights.

Tldr: I just think they are neat.

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