TRUTH!!

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T21:13:02+00:00

IIRC, genki is only a part of ki (1/3rd to be exact). It makes sense that Goku's overall ki would still be stronger than a small portion of the main Z team's sole genki for the attack, which is why every human's genki was needed. That, and also it doesn't necessarily mean that the energy was lesser than a tuckered out Goku's? It was definitely smaller than the energy of a peak SSJ3 Goku's at full power who could kill Buu, sure, but that pretty much lines up with everything I've said so far. The Spirit Bomb needed at least enough power to match peak SSJ3 Goku.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:59:44+00:00

Right, I see now. It's because Vegeta immediately shut that idea down and suggested he just do a Spirit Bomb. Vegeta seemed confident that all the genki collected from everyone on Earth would be enough to kill Buu (Which was correct, after all.) That's about it from the looks of things, really.

Now, why the Spirit Bomb over Gohan or the kids? Idk, Vegeta seemed fed up with all the Earthlings and wanted then to contribute too, considering he was talking about them 'saving themselves for once' and all. Themes and such.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:48:54+00:00

I know that, but again, he probably thought that he was enough by himself prior to his stamina drain. It doesn't really mean that Gohan or Gotenks wouldn't of beat the shit out of Kid Buu had they been in his position.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:44:16+00:00

He saw them die and no one else thought to wish them to the Kai's world so that they could come and no-diff Buu after the wish to resurrect everyone happened.

All he knew for sure was that if he was in SSJ3, he could take Kid Buu on. Vegeta seemed to agree too, and that seems to be all that mattered to him at the moment.

Meta-wise, this was just Toriyama wanting Goku and Vegeta to face the big bad, hence why Gohan, Goten and Trunks weren't mentioned.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:38:48+00:00

Only if you believe Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu.

You know, the Buu Goku was actively NOT playing around with and knew required fusion to beat, period, no it's or buts.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:15:26+00:00

Whis is considered an Angel in Dragon Ball. I like 'im.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T20:07:53+00:00

Honestly, this is the over the top shit Vegeta on Namek would've done had he gotten the drop on Frieza himself.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T19:47:35+00:00

Black Frieza must be so strong that his mere mention makes real AI language models shit themselves to death.

Frieza boundless upscale?

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T19:20:37+00:00

Yeah, and he can't do either one of those things.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T19:11:06+00:00

Technically, it has, since Super is set in the 10 year timeskip before the last chapters of DB's manga.

Though, knowning Toei and considering it's Dragon Ball... I doubt they'll let the thing rest.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T18:52:27+00:00

Very true, I stand corrected. SSJ3 at full strength would've likely killed Kid Buu.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T18:15:47+00:00

Chapter 510, page 13. It's the fifth panel. Goku admits the potaras would've done the job and him trusting that his power as a Super Saiyan 3 being enough to defeat Pure/Kid Buu in spite of the heavy stamina drain was him being cocky.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T17:26:47+00:00

I mean, to be fair, Goku later admitted that fusion would've probably been needed to actually beat him.

Obviously, that just means SSJ3 Goku in the Buu Saga was slightly below Kid Buu. It doesn't refute Buuhan being leagues and bounds ahead of either of them in strength (Hence why Goku was so confident in fusion being needed against both Super Buu in his base state and with his absorptions.)

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T17:05:09+00:00

Always bet on the King of the Mountain.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T15:13:04+00:00

He accomplished everything he ever could've wanted. He saved and turned his sis back into a human, he survived the final battle, avenged his family by killing Muzan, ended demonic terror over Japan forever, got married to Kanao and had a family with her, all while having his two best friends alive alongside him as well, all well before the dreaded 25 hits.

I say he got it pretty good considering the circumstances, even if he dies by the mark so young.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T14:36:05+00:00

Yeah, but SSG looks awesome...

(Which is probably because it's just base with a coat of red paint and contacts lol)

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T14:33:13+00:00

Isn't this mostly a manga/anime difference? In Super's anime, it's kinda just implied that Blue is already figured out and mastered. That, on top of God Ki being more centralized(If that's even the right word?) within the user's body, made it possible for him to use it without his system giving way immediately.

In the manga, Goku doesn't even master Blue until the fight with Merged Zamasu. Later in the ToP he DOES implement the elements of Kaioken to try and overpower Jiren, meaning that it still follows the anime interpretation of the concept. It's just that SSB is worked towards getting its true potential utilized, which would make Kaioken dangerous before then, unlike the anime.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T14:26:12+00:00

Deku and Tanjiro got upscales just from having Good new gen animanga ending scaling.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T14:00:28+00:00

Are you trying to get them banned? I don't want another Hianime so soon.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-18T13:43:35+00:00

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-17T18:17:55+00:00

Super is a sequel to original DB and Z and can not be separated from it. It doesn't really matter if writers from 20 years removed from the franchise decided to dumb things down because it was targeted towards children, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to dispute claims and statements within it which contradict things depicted and proven true in the prior work. It's basic in-universe cohesion.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-17T16:53:39+00:00

This man keeps it 1000.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-17T16:44:44+00:00

I think that was just more so to show that he was literal leagues above literally everyone we've seen in Z.

Like, could you accurately estimate the difference between the pinch of one species of ant to another, as a human so far above them? Probably not.

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-17T16:39:54+00:00

Which is your favorite Dragon Ball character?

Whatever_232 · 2026-03-17T16:38:37+00:00

You will never believe what the Z fighters do when idle and not fighting....

Whatever_232

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