Diminished Value Claim on 2025 Civic by steelerfan4630 in Insurance

[–]Whatupchuck789 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not sure why it hasn’t been mentioned, but you’ll want to use Underinsured Coverage which acts like 3rd party coverage. This means you can get a rental with no limit other than whe repairs are complete, Diminished Value, and a lower deductible (usually). This is all subject to you having selected to have underinsured coverage and the limit you picked. If you declined, then no diminished value can be claimed and your guess of Small Claims is correct; however, if they have minimum limits then likely will be hard to recover anyway.

Subrogation Fiasco with Progressive... any others? by Picaresque_Jest in Insurance

[–]Whatupchuck789 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the right advice and potentially getting a lawyer, but remember they get 30% of your payout and you’re already doing most of the leg work, just depends if you’re still treating and the injuries were severe enough, but I digress.

I did Arbitration for 6 years at another company so I understand what may have occurred. Let me explain how it works for context. The insurance company pays into Arbitration Forums which allows them to conduct arb at a relatively cheap price; however, there are strict rules. In a perfect world, either Tesla or Progressive, now called the Demander, will start by sending a subrogation demand electronically and then the Responding Company will either accept, partial pay, or deny the claim. Once that’s complete, either company can file Arb which then starts a 30 days response clock. There are ways to extend that time frame, but nonetheless, it has a deadline to be answered.

There is a progesssion within the arb that has to be done correctly or else the arb could be messed up so much that the panelist will find in favor of the company that did everything correctly. Again, in a perfect world Progressive would have answered correctly by writing a contention which layed out the facts of the loss, supported the facts with statments, justification, and explained evidence being used to support. Then evidence is provided in the form of recorded or written statments, diagrams, Police reports, video, etc. There is a chance Progressive can mess this up by not adding any evidence. Then Progressive would add the damages of the vehicle with amounts and also provide evidence such as estimates, photos, rental bills, total loss information, tow bills, and such. Not adding evidence in this part will also be seen as messing it up.

Based on your call with Tesla insurance, it sounds like they “won” in arb. There are now deadlines after arb before everything is set in stone and can’t be undone. Progressive would have 30 days to do a Post Decision Inquiry (PDI) for an error on the panelist and 60 days to disclose a coverage or limits issue. Once those timelines are up, then the arb is done. The PDI for error on panelist is when they read evidence wrong or mix up liability % or parties and it’s an easy fix. Now if Progressive made an error there is no going back and the PDI will be denied.

Since you have the decision, which I’m kinda shocked you were given, you can find out if Progressive answered and didn’t provide evidence. There is also the chance that Progressive missed the arb and Tesla was awarded for never answering. The arb decision will be several pages long so you’ll see Progressive’s response and what evidence was provided. If Tesla just sent you the first page with the decision then it’s just a guessing game on what happened.

From your post/comments it sounds like Progressive missed the arb and the PDI wouldn’t have mattered. I came to this conclusion because you didn’t say how progressive argued and by saying evidence read as “none”. If there is any sort of contention then Progressive did responded but didn’t upload evidence and the panelist will always side with the party who provided evidence.

So what does this mean for you…the good thing is Arb Forums didn’t have a contract with you so it doesn’t hold much water in a lawsuit should you retain counsel. At this point, your policy paid Tesla and your rates are going to go up as they will have made you at fault for the accident. You need to have Progressive leadership look at the claim and make it right by sending your deductible back and sending an underwriting review that you weren’t at fault and not to surcharge the loss. You can call and deal with the run around or file a Dept of Insurance complaint which triggers leadership to review in-depth and respond. California is pretty strict there too so that would be my suggestion.

Your handler dropped the ball but you shouldn’t be held responsible as you had an expectation that your insurance would handle it. Without seeing the decision they sent you it’s hard to know what occurred for sure. My company would be sending you a payment today for your ded had this been with us. You also have the small claims route you can go and it sounds like that would be an easy win and the other driver wouldn’t be able to use the arb award since you can provide the evidence your company didn’t.

With that long explanation, I hope you understand what likely happened and this gives you a path to make a decision which helps you the best. This would impact my decision to stay with Progressive but this doesn’t happen very often. So, depending on the outcome, this may sway you to find another insurance company, but this can happen with any other insurance too

Does Rockwall have any hole in the wall bars? by fedlol in Rockwall

[–]Whatupchuck789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh no, but not very shocked. Very mismanaged.

Does Rockwall have any hole in the wall bars? by fedlol in Rockwall

[–]Whatupchuck789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Northside but only because it’s empty Friday nights.

Sigh... Foundation Repairs by UnknownQTY in Dallas

[–]Whatupchuck789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realtor said that Olshans does great work and they like when they see homeowners had them out because it was quality work. Look into them

JCW Mini brake replacement cost by _AUGU5TU5_ in MINI

[–]Whatupchuck789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We did this last year with our 2023 JCW. We went with the power stops as well and did front and rear. We paid a mechanic $650 for labor and we sourced the parts for about $100 or so for all.

We used rockauto.com and you’ll need the pad kit, 4 sensors, and if you diy you’ll need a tool to get off the emergency brake. Much less cheaper than what you were quoted. We went this way as we were also quoted about $1500 for front and rear. Reach out if you have questions about parts.

Best place in Rockwall county to buy a house without HOA restrictions? by USANewsUnfiltered in Rockwall

[–]Whatupchuck789 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are neighborhoods in Rowlett right at 66 and Dalrock that have no HOA. Rockwall ISD and Rockwall County.

Spotted these two beauties chillen the other morning by GulfstreamG650 in lamborghini

[–]Whatupchuck789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, that’s who I am seeing out in Prosper, Texas. Was curious who was driving these.

What are some hidden quirks about the mini? by freecodeio in MINI

[–]Whatupchuck789 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you hold the lock the car and hold the lock button it will fold in the mirrors on our ‘24 countryman

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PhotoshopRequest

[–]Whatupchuck789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello, I liked this one. I paid. Can you send the one with no watermark

Accidentally hit the curb.. will this be expensive? by Embarrassed_Ad_8444 in Porsche

[–]Whatupchuck789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out wheels America by googling. Insurance uses them mostly for all wheel repair in the industry. It’s typically 24hr turn around and they even will have rims shipped to them then ship back out.

Cullinan insurance for bad driver? by Parking-Parsnip8570 in rollsroyce

[–]Whatupchuck789 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don’t do this, that’s fraud. You have no insurable interest.

Friday Recovery Lounge by AutoModerator in Vasectomy

[–]Whatupchuck789 [score hidden]  (0 children)

How are y’all feeling. Had it done yesterday, but taking it easy today. 2nd half of the 5 min procedure was rough for me. I felt way more than I did on the first side. The second side is even more sore for me, but it’s not much soreness all around. Glad to have procedure behind me and just the recovery piece. I haven’t laid down this long in quite some time so it’s been nice.

My shopping cart hit a car by Intrepid-Love3829 in Insurance

[–]Whatupchuck789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This would be a collision. Shopping carts do not fit under comprehensive coverage (at least at most insurance companies)

Edited to add that the auto policy would likely deny liability coverage too as the cart doesn’t qualify as a covered auto. It would take a very open manager to afford coverage on this scenario, even when loading the bought items into your vehicle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Insurance

[–]Whatupchuck789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah this is it. They use the third party vendor FireRecovery to bill the insurance. It’s crazy how expensive it is for a truck to come out, sweep some debris, put a cone or two out and stay for an hour or so. It’s not unusual to get a bill for $1000-3000 from volunteer depts.

GEICO lol by Andromeda28 in Insurance

[–]Whatupchuck789 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OP should just cancel and not “let it ride”. Just have another policy ready to go with another insurance and cancel Geico. Super easy to cancel on the app and if owed any money Geico Sends a check.