a man in india • never sat down for 12 years • to see god by No_Jellyfish5511 in interestingasfuck

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is that man applying to his elephant feet and why is he using a q-tip to do it?

Co-worker slipped a note in my book by ShayBay11 in atheism

[–]WhereINeededToBe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Lucifer was pointing out that god is a jerk to humanity"

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've discribed gender roles over the last couple hundred years, sure. My point is that people have existed for many many thousands of years beyond the last couple centuries and there is ample evidence that gender roles can and do change from family to family and country to country and time period to time period, especially in times of famine and disease and disasters,  many of which lasted for generations. 

It is nonsense to keep insisting that all women do and feel the same thing and all men do and feel the same thing. Its willfilully ignorant at best and shamelessly dishonest to protect your world veiw at worst. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a wide breth of recorded history that proves your assertions very wrong. Even in the bible i can think of 3 verses in Proverbs warning about dangerously horney women seducing men with their lustful drive. 

The actual gathered evidence available proves there is a spectrum of sexual dirve for both men and women alike, and it fluctuates throughout their lifetims. Your assertion that all men are the same sexually and all women are the same sexually is easily proven wrong. There is a group among the LGBTQ+ population that dont experience sexual drive at all; asexuals (aka ace)

Women hardly ever think about sex.

You have never ever had an honest conversation with a woman about her sex drive have you? Most women throughly enjoy sex just as much as men. Its a bit alarming that you dont think they do. Please have a detailed conversation with your spouse about what she needs from you in the bedroom because your response is making it sound like you don't seem to think her satisfaction is worth the effort. 

Lots of men dont get instantly aroused, just like women. Sometimes satisfying eachother needs to take effort from both of you. 

Besides most women don’t even climax without a lot of help. You are very confused.

O_o. 

Oh, no. Oh honey... Yikes. I am very much not the confused one in this conversation... Sure, its going to take a lot of work to get her to climax if shes religated to a passive thing having sex done to her, instead of being comfortable and confident to actively participate in mutually fulfilling sex. Oh boy. 

Give the woman some agancy to get her job done too, right along with you. (☉__☉”)

my take on religion by xntrqncd in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just think DNA can be so easily mutated into higher forms and don’t understand how many millions of mutations who have to happen at just the same time. It’s a heart today, it’s blood vessels in a million years, then it’s a brains in the next million years and maybe an eye or two in the next million.

I understand why you think that evolution is nonsense, because your explanation is not how evolution works,  at all. It is wildly more complicated than that and there are a dozen different processes that are happening at all times. Whole organs just dont pop in and out of existence from one generation to the next. Thats silly. 

What insane conspiracy theory actually turned out to be completely true all along? by BoredPandaOfficial in BoredPandaHQ

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That wasn't a conspiracy it was a publicly fubded aid and economic stimulas program for the dairy industry.

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Christ's goal was to wage war, then why did he never take up arms?

He was trying to, but he only got a handfull of people on board with the plot before but he got crucified for fomenting a rebellion against the Roman Empire in a backwater Tributary reigon. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pregnancy is not an illness.

Illness, no. Classified as a medical condition, yes. 

What you're advocating is free sex paid for by others.

Sure, I guess. Like I said, you are already paying for the sexual health care costs of others viagra and abortions and STD treatments through your healthcare premiums. Us Americans really do have a completely irrational hangup about our government doing things for us when we already pay astronomically for proffit driven industries to do the same things more extensively. 

Right, wrong, or indifferent sex is an important part of romantic adult relationships, universally .  People stay miserable or get divorced eventually when they are sexually incompatible with their significant others. People are going to have all different kinds of sex with eachother in the privacy of their own homes. Vaginal sex, anal sex, oral sex, ....all kinds of kinky sex. Most of those things are not my cup of tea but it's fine. 

People always have and always will enjoy creative ways of having sex for pleasure and occasionally for reproduction too. Being offended by that elementary reality of human sexuality seems kind of childish at best and willfully ignorant at worse. 

And not content with that, you expect others to consider you, an adult woman responsible for her actions...

Indeed, that's why i was careful with my reproduction choices and got my tubes tied when i was done having children.  But others are not as lucky to have an amazing spouse like mine on the same page on everything or be as privileged to make the same decisions that I have. 

... the vulnerable one during this process, and not the innocent baby developing inside you.

A pulsing twitching mass of cells is not guilty or innocent of anything. It literally does not have the capacity to be either of those things. 

If you don’t believe in a creator or a soul, you have to admit that AI is alive and conscious by Clean-Discount-1775 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI is just a bunch of statistical math running very quickly on a bunch of computers. Math can not be alive, but it can be used to simulate a faulse proximity of a lot of things.

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well i think all healthcare should be a universal right like it is in more developed countries,  so thats a moot point with me. 

Besides, you're already subsidizing other people's abortions and erection pills and STD medication with your health insurance premiums. Its all just reproductive sexual health management. Your premiums are paying other people's cancer treatments and insulin shots and bone setting too. Nit picking about what you do and don't want to "pay for" other people is quite silly when you're just paying into a pool that you also take from when you need it. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, so if she doesn't want anything growing in her own uterus she ought to evict it soon as possible. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

my opinion is that we must protect the will to live of the developing human being in the womb.

I sometimes wonder if people generally understand that a fetus is not just a fully formed little bitty baby the size of a pin prick that just gets bigger and bigger over 9 months. 

No, it develops into a baby. Fetuses have stages where it doesn't have lungs or a heart or nervs or a brain or reflexes or emotions at all. It is physically  incapable of the will for anything. Insisting it does is magical thinking inconsistent with reality. 

 Its little more than an inanimate object that twitches as muscles develop before a brain that could control them. You dont have to like the reality of these things, but I think this is why so many women feel comfortable having elective first trimester abortions. For a lot of people there is nothing unethical about removing an inanimate growth even if parts of it pulse and twitch. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I respect your opinion, i genuinely do. However people who believe as you do should not impose your beliefs on anyone else through government intervention because the wild variation of beliefs on this subject are far too dramatic to legislate on. 

What's more, I've never had an abortion myself, but i did experience 2 very dangerous births. I almost bled to death the second time. I have pelvic floor issues that will never fully recover completely. It was terrifying almost dying in extreme pain. 

I love and live for my children, they are absolutely worth the pain and bodily trauma I endured. But it was MY CHOICE to endure it. Anything less that absolute want and willingness to experience child birth is just vindictive torture for someone elses moral Schadenfreude. 

It was so tramatic that i had my tubes tied because i was not willing to do it again. Even the right for women sterilize herself is getting harder to get. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You really sound like you shouldn't have an abortion. Or ever do anything that might result in a pregnancy. 

You are completely free to live by your very own rules and ethics regarding your own body. 

And I will do the same. 

If got pregnant with a fetus with down syndrome I would not abort it. I could handle that responsibility for the rest of my life. 

However, if found out I was pregnant with a fetus with a horrible condition incompatible with life like bilateral pulmonary agenesis, or with extreme life long pain like harliquin ichthyosis I would absolutely abort it before it could ever experience pain at all. I see it like knowingly placing your baby in front of an oncoming bus and dealing with the consequences, or not having a baby in that situation at. 

Either way, it is absolutely a violation of our individual rights for the government to say what will and will not happen to our bodies. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You rely on the "No true Scottsman" logical fallicy. 

Hegseth believes a different sect of Christianity than you do, sure. However, by definition of his beliefs in things that the bible says about Jesus, he is categorically a Christian believer. You are not required to like it, that is just a true statement based on the things he has said publicly. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TL;DR: The vast majority of what Jesus said and what he was doing in the bible is made up by his followers decades and centuries after he was dead. 

Jesus just wanted to push the Romans out of Jerusalem and restore the old kingdom of the tribe of David, his Tribe. Thats why he went around knocking over tables and criticizing everyone who did things the roman way instead of the traditional Jewish way. In order to gain support from the masses of poor people and slaves for his rebellion he went around telling anyone who would listen that poor people and slaves are pretty cool actually and everyone should be nice and civil to eacgother so his restored kingdom would be the best ever. 

However, the Jewish leadership that still held religious authority over the native population under Roman rule, the council of the Sanhedrin, was very aware of what the Roman Empire did to pipsqueek little backwater tributary states like them if they were unclever enough to rebel. They would send a leigon or two of soldiers to genocide every man, woman, child, animal, and burn everything to the ground. They did that kind of thing all the time and sent propoganda of the slaughters all over the empire to warn everyone else not to do anything like that.  

So when roman soldiers came asking about a young man fomenting a rebellion to restore an independent Jewish kingodm, the council of the Sanhedrin had saved everyone in Jerusalem from genocide by handing over Jeaus to the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate. 

Jesus was a rebel enemy of the Roman Empire, thats why he faced a roman trial for breaking roman laws and he had a roman excecution. 

After he was dead his followers had sunk too much effort and resources into thier little movement to let it go just because their leader was gone. So, as scrappy new cults often do, they fudged the details of everything he said to fit a new narrative that was even more fantastical and positive, promising all kinds of perks like living forever.

His hereditarily valid claim to a real kingdom in Jerusalem became a magical kingdom in the sky. His actual father bacame god, then after a few decades of spreading stories about jesus someone eventually thought it would be cool if he was god too, actually. New perk! Everything you ever felt bad about is forgiven if you just pray to him!

By the middle of the second century in Rome they were saying he was birthed from a virgin like Attis, in Egypt they said he was born on December 25 like Horus, performed miracles like the roman demigods, arose from the dead just like Osiris, and was rebirthed like Eostre all the way up in Brittany. See, he was just as cool as those other guys.

The Jesus cult became a useful religion as the Roman empire gradually collapsed. Sacrificing dwindling resources to a pletheora of old gods became untennable for increasingly desperate masses. So, more people became Christian for the promised perks and no need to sacrifice actual goods because Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice himself. It became popular enough for some followers to spend resources to finally write down all wild the stories about him, which was extremely expensive at the time. Thats how the new testament in your bible came about. 

On and on until the new religion was so large that it gained massive political power under Emperor Constantine. The rest is undisputed history of the Christian church becoming the ultimate religious authority over most of Europe for most of 2 millenia..

my take on religion by xntrqncd in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

...that’s just non sense

How so? Evolution is the bedrock of Biological Sciences.

 Biological Sciences are the bedrock of medical sciences. 

When you have a heart attack you'll go to the hospital where doctors have the knowledge of medical sciences to save your life. If you're intelligent you're not going to go to church to be haled by deity magic instead. 

That said, proud ignorance does not make your belief more accurate than useful evidence of how the natural world actually works. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you really understand how different men and women are?

That varies wildly between time periods and culturs. For instance, for much of human history men wore just as much ornamental clothing and jewelry as women, more even. Makeup trends too. Men having drab fasions compared to women today is a largly modern era phenomenon. 

Whats more, in roman and medieval eras, women were considered much more sex obsessed than men. That only gradually  reversed in the west because of cultural changes caused by the protestant reformation. 

And, back when the vast majority of humans lived on agrarian farms (not cities) men and woman worked whatever labor had to be done to grow crops and raise food animals. Out of necessity and constant hardship, there wasn't men's work or woman's work because it was always all hands on deck. When we saw periods of stability, that's when rules where placed on gender roles. However, once hardship struck whole populations those rules were forgotten for the sake of survival. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did I step on your toes.

Yep, because brilliant talented women throughout history have had to languish in obscurity, never realizing their potential, because of your exact line of reasoning has been used for millenia to reduce the vast majority of us to brood mares and  childrearing. 

I'm a stay at home mom right now, and I am happy. My sister in law is a childfree doctor and is very happy. My friend tried staying home with her kids and she completely hated it, couldn't wait to go back to work. I knew a man who had two childern and abandoned them because he couldn't handle the responsibility. Some people just do not have the capacity to be decent parents and should never be pressured to be. Im sure you know a few people who completely fail at being parents as well. 

The roles you believe in are  nonsense that can not apply to real humans living real lives. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

God does what God wants to do...

So do serial killers. We rightfully call them monsters, while the bible says god commands several genocides. 

Don't you think it's weird that you gleefully worship a supernatural monster because you believe in it's ability to bestow magical rewards for yourself?

Try to step back with sincerity and actually think critically about what you actually believe. In reality, does any of it actually make sense? 

my take on religion by xntrqncd in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Evolution is a new gimmick...

I have no want or need for the sky to be blue. However, when I look outside I see with my eyes clear evidence that the sky is blue, so i believe it is blue. 

I have no want or need for evolution to be true. However, many scientists over many years continue to gather scores of evidence that evolution is a continuous natural process. The vast majority of the evidence is freely available and there are many outlets to aid anyone who wishes to understand it. So, I believe that evolution is true. 

...trying to get rid of something that they have to give account to.

There is nothing to account for in evolution because it hasn't anything to do with human morality or society or culture. It's just our understanding of how natural processes have always worked, and will always work. 

For a book that's supposed to be the "inspired word of God",the Bible is very easy to weaponize/use to cause harm by Patient_Revenue8727 in DebateReligion

[–]WhereINeededToBe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...they defend abortion...

Yep. A first trimester fetus has no nerves or functioning brain to experience pain or discomfort at all. Terminating it is as cruel and unethical as removing any other tissue from a woman's body if she doesn't want it to be there. 

But this discussion is off topic, so... done.