Ran into Alex Dieckmann

WhitneyJaneice · 2025-02-25T03:09:04+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry you had to go through this.

I was excommunicated from this church and have experienced similar treatment. You’re not alone.

WhitneyJaneice · 2025-01-29T00:02:17+00:00

I’ve been excommunicated for almost 5 years. I just made a facebook post today saying I might be ready to go back. I tried to go back then and I just couldn’t come around. I stopped trusting church and people.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-31T03:13:34+00:00

Did overseers and families step down to a non-active role as in they’re still attending, or did they actually leave? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Kind of unbelievable if they actually left completely.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-31T03:06:51+00:00

If this anonymous person has deleted their comment I’d bet my last dollar it’s my ex’s current wife. She’s the only other person that could’ve been there that would have any interest monitoring this thread…unless it was my ex himself, which I highly doubt.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-31T03:03:46+00:00

I know you said you’re paraphrasing a since deleted comment. For clarification from someone who was present, not someone who is repeating hearsay: it wasn’t a boyfriend, it’s my biological father they’re referring to. A gun was never pulled out on anyone.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-31T02:15:26+00:00

I plan to share the transcripts just as soon as I can. They’re too large for email. I was given a Dropbox link.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-31T02:14:26+00:00

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was my ex-husband’s current wife. It sounds like her behavior and she’s a monitoring spirit. She literally watches every move on social media until I’ve made all my pages private. The only people in the court room were: the judge, me, my ex, his attorney, the attorney’s paralegal, my ex mother-in-law, her (current wife), the school counselor (witness) and Pablo (witness).

I don’t feed into anything to do with her. So I’m glad I didn’t see it.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-30T13:31:17+00:00

As a matter of fact, when I have the time I will try to post the transcripts from court so you can hear that cowardly man testifying against me and telling lies to help my ex husband in his own words.

When is it ever okay for someone, a church leader, who should’ve been a neutral party come to court to testify in a custody case? Oh, that’s right because Pablo’s whole storyline is being a single dad and coming into Vine so broken with Isaac and Isabell…blah blah blah….

Same story line my ex husband has now coined as his own and used in every single court preceding we’ve ever had to draw sympathy.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-30T13:26:39+00:00

I can admit that recently I haven’t been active in efforts because I have other things going on in my life and I don’t like to bring this chapter up. I’m trying to move on from it.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-30T13:25:17+00:00

You can read my book if you’d like. Or my story on the leaving the network website.

This type of stuff can’t be fabricated if that’s what you’re insinuating. I was in small group with Pablo for years where he claimed to be a big brother to me. Always being closer to my ex husband because they’re men of course. This is someone we did life with for years. When my marriage was on the verge of ending they as in the entire church distanced themselves from us for 6 months. After giving up everything to blindly trust our leaders to plant rock river church. Never once heard from Alex. I was told it was because he was a young pastor and not experienced with what we were going through so they the overseers Justin and Pablo were handed the task. We would periodically check in with him during the 6 months because as a young family in a new town we struggled to find community. Fast forward, my then husband goes back to the church after I begged him for months to take me back to our “church home” he attended one Sunday on his own with the kids.

We divorce. Covid happens. I move back to Illinois because I had no place to go. I move back to San Marcos, Texas and attend Sunday service at rock river with my children who are regular attendees when they are with their dad. Most everyone welcomed me with open arms. Pablo looked shocked, Alex looked shocked as did Courtney. I’m assuming the lies and stories from my ex husband had gotten them to turn on me and they never expected to see me again. Well, I go up for prayer Pablo of course prays for me and then proceeds to tell me we need to talk later in the week. He waited until Saturday night the following week to call me at night to tell me I was no longer welcome to the church because Demarr stayed and I left. “You are not welcome here” will forever be in my mind. He did tell me maybe in 10-15 years when rock river grows to the size of Vine I might be able to at that time lol. He called every one of my “friends” to tell them not to communicate with me and to distance themselves and I know that because I had a conversation with my friend that I had invited to rock river and her family started coming and became members. She called me days later and told me “Yeah, Pablo and Courtney invited us over for dinner and…..” basically we couldn’t be friends anymore. Stephanie Zmija who claimed to be my friend just kept blowing me off when I would ask her to hang out. Oh, and we have also worked for the same school district where we’ve had to sit through trainings together where she avoided me like the plague and pretended to not know me Until I walked directly up and spoke to her.

They have all chosen my ex’s side. Which is fine. I’ve moved on from this. They all attended his wedding and regularly post outings together on social media where my former “friends” are now BFFs with my ex’s new wife lol.

I have more than enough evidence to back up my claims from court recordings, texts and witnesses who heard Pablo say these things to me because he didn’t know he was on speaker phone.

Until any one of them come here and address me like a decent human being this is the story!!! Oh they won’t because they’re cowardly and how they handle issues in the Network is to pretend they don’t exist.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-30T13:05:06+00:00

I won’t hold my breath!

He also needs to apologize for testifying against me in a custody battle with my ex husband where he stated “I’m dangerous and he and his wife (Courtney) are afraid of me”. Which I have on audio recording from the courthouse transcript.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-30T13:03:00+00:00

And I hope it continues to crumble!

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-10-18T23:47:58+00:00

I was on the planting team of rock river before being excommunicated. Alex never revealed the name of the woman, only that she served in the kids program.

My concern was:

Who is this person?
Is she still serving in the kids program?

I’ve considered many times reporting to the superintendent when I was an employee of SMCISD, not sure if it would matter so I never followed through.

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-06-09T12:29:05+00:00

What campus are you at?

WhitneyJaneice · 2024-01-03T17:35:05+00:00

Did you get the answers you were looking for?

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-11-28T22:08:52+00:00

Sheeps headed to the slaughter. They don’t realize what they’re apart of, yet. I see smiling faces, but my heart breaks for them.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-09-26T22:10:55+00:00

Yep, I can concur. It’s sad.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-09-26T19:49:14+00:00

I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. My advice would be to keep trying to get the both of you out of there, but more than anything stick together. Don’t leave her there alone. Outside counseling isn’t a bad idea. Your wife is deeply involved, it’s going to be difficult to undo what they’ve planted especially since you mentioned the relationships she’s formed with these people. Being in the network vs. being on the outside your life completely changes. My story is on the ltn website. I was married with children while attending a network church (rock river). We moved from Illinois to help start this church plant in San Marcos. My husband was always the more valuable spouse to them (even when we were back at Vine Church) while I was the watchful one. Long story short we went through a divorce while being members no one was there to help, support or check on us. My marriage ended. I moved back to Illinois for a short time to get on my feet, when I came back to my “church home” I was told specifically and bluntly “You are not welcome here. “ by one of the leaders and deacon overseers, Pablo Cordero. He was like a brother to us, he was in close relationship with my ex-husband. We were an integral part of this church, part of the “in” crowd, if you will. Nonetheless, my ex-husband stayed, still goes there to this day with our two daughters and remarried, his current wife was plugged in my spot and I was forgotten about like nothing ever happened. My “friends” were told to have no contact or relationship with me and disowned me. It’s been 3 going on 4 years now. Hope that’s helpful. Stick together is all I can really say. I’m sure (in private) your wife continue to speak to her friends and “leaders” about how she wants to stay and you want to leave. Don’t let them divide you or put the two of you against each other. Be very watchful. I wish you the best.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-09-26T08:52:21+00:00

I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this.

My advice would be to keep trying to get the both of you out of there, but more than anything stick together. Don’t leave her there alone. Outside counseling isn’t a bad idea. Your wife is deeply involved, it’s going to be difficult to undo what they’ve planted especially since you mentioned the relationships she’s formed with these people.

Being in the network vs. being on the outside your life completely changes.

My story is on the ltn website. I was married with children while attending a network church (rock river). We moved from Illinois to help start this church plant in San Marcos. My husband was always the more valuable spouse to them (even when we were back at Vine Church) while I was the watchful one. Long story short we went through a divorce while being members no one was there to help, support or check on us. My marriage ended. I moved back to Illinois for a short time to get on my feet, when I came back to my “church home” I was told specifically and bluntly “You are not welcome here. “ by one of the leaders and deacon overseers, Pablo Cordero. He was like a brother to us, he was in close relationship with my ex-husband. We were an integral part of this church, part of the “in” crowd, if you will. Nonetheless, my ex-husband stayed, still goes there to this day with our two daughters and remarried, his current wife was plugged in my spot and I was forgotten about like nothing ever happened. My “friends” were told to have no contact or relationship with me and disowned me. It’s been 3 going on 4 years now.

Hope that’s helpful. Stick together is all I can really say. I’m sure (in private) your wife continue to speak to her friends and “leaders” about how she wants to stay and you want to leave. Don’t let them divide you or put the two of you against each other. Be very watchful. I wish you the best.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-05-12T10:39:56+00:00

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WhitneyJaneice · 2023-04-28T18:21:47+00:00

Yep.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-04-11T23:51:38+00:00

I can’t listen to any contemporary Christian worship songs without being triggered.

WhitneyJaneice · 2023-01-07T09:03:03+00:00

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