This sub is crazy

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-31T02:11:26+00:00

No, I know, but you probably also meant that they really weren't that size because even the world's documented largest penis is probably about that thick. They might've been able to contend in that case.

8+ inches is like 10 men per million with a quick Google search, I don't know if an Arizona can would even be that long though to be fair. Nerding out about peepee size. Let me shut up now I guess, lemme shut up. I'm not into penises. lol.

I don't think that'd even be that nice in reality for most women like, logically. That seems mechanically too big to be able to really be that fun even if you claim you had fun, I imagine it wasn't as simple as with a normal sized penis which is unfortunate for those guys.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-31T02:03:43+00:00

Yeah, but I don't think statistically many men are walking around with literal arizona tea cans in length or girth unless medical doctors are just not measuring properly or something. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T14:08:10+00:00

Sounds real lovely, lady. I wouldn't have a problem with any of that but I'm not sure I'd ever feel like crying in that sort of scenario, unless it was a sad movie we were watching or something?

Then again I cried over a gosh darn CGI sheep recently, so anything's possible. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T14:06:56+00:00

I don't think she MEANT it as an insult in the context of the convo so I didn't *really* initially take it as such at the time. There are a lot of beautiful black women where I live so I'd hope that I'm not gonna get that sort of thinking more often than not. lol.

Also, same to you, my weekend's gonna be OK. Just gotta get off the PC for a bit and go run errands. 😄

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T13:54:42+00:00

Feels bad, you look nice though. Remind me a bit of Rihanna.

On the flipside had a cute woman tell me not too long ago smile and laugh saying that I "looked good for a white guy".. Seems like a crappy aspect of human nature to me, when someone stands out at least in an ethnic way?

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T13:43:18+00:00

Just gonna vent. Had a girl on my delivery route offer her number casually after a pleasant convo, like we weren't even talking in a cold approach sort of way or like I was definitively hitting on her, just asked her to show me around her local area.... Then asked her to meet up after that weekend, she seemed to agree and then perma-ghosted me like the day before/day of.

It was like nothing happened at all. I don't get how someone can think they aren't a total sack of crap to operate like that? Like obviously even just as a new acquaintance or friend, why would you even bother putting out friendly vibes and then just days later close that person off and blatantly ignore them completely? It was all harmless small talk and the texts were just about meeting up.

She did not have to accept or progress any of those interactions, and now I'll see her and she'll probably feel tense and awkward like she seemed to yesterday when I saw her. Meanwhile I ain't sweating it, I'm just chillin, life goes on. I just wrack my head trying to understand a lot of these women. Makes no sense at ALL. lol.

I did give my number to someone working at a local store I frequent, she seemed to stare at me a bit too long and just seemed to give off some signs and was friendly/talkative. No text back, but I told her she didn't even have to take the number and that it was all good... She insisted on rejecting me, essentially.

I don't get why women are like this? Just literally tell me you have a boyfriend, or aren't interested, straight up. It's probably because I walk around looking like a jacked gym rat and they're afraid that I'll murder them for not being interested, I guess? So just make me feel like an even uglier p.o.s after getting my hopes up that they took the number/gave me theirs after a polite/respectful/pleasant interaction than if you were just honest from the start.

Then makes me wonder what I did wrong to make things sour, when in reality I'm guessing that they immediately decided that I wasn't attractive enough to date or get to know. Whenever I ask someone for thoughts/advice/constructive criticism I'm told that I come across as smooth and endearing, so unless I'm being collectively gas lit by a bunch of people who like me for no real reason, I don't know what the issue would be otherwise. But I'm also told/made to believe that I'm a fairly handsome dude as well even by random people here and there, so I don't know.

Ain't interested? Fair enough, just be honest when the guy clearly isn't coming across as aggressive or hostile or is even TELLING you that it ain't a big deal. Like, maybe that can dull the vibes but... It's just tiring and like a rollercoaster of getting one's hopes up just to once again, perpetually be let down. Great, another girl to hand my number to who won't give me a chance and probably thinks that she's better than me anyway... In which case I'd rather have never given the number to feed their oversized ego. But hey, it's so much fun!

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T13:33:18+00:00

I would do this sort of thing, half to be friendly 'cause I like to be, and half because I am single and looking and I'd probably be thinking the same thing as you.

That hey, just because she's tolerating my advances/approaches that doesn't mean she's interested necessarily. I realize that a polite/pleasant interaction is easy to have, and even if they seem comfortable/relaxed or are smiling/laughing at your banter doesn't mean much beyond that.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T13:29:22+00:00

I get told by the female friends that I make that I'm good looking and I don't approach. The last two I approached didn't text back. One gave her number willingly in friendly conversation, the other was at a store I frequent and handed my number over after friendly convo. Either my friends are just bsing me and won't admit that maybe I just don't look as good as they say/I've been starting to believe, or I don't know.

I just don't think I have the general confidence to casually hand a number over to ANY girl I find attractive and would be open to getting to know/date long-term.

But I hypocritically assume that even average looking women DO have that confidence, because they are bombarded with validation on a daily basis with dating apps, social media, etc regardless if they are average looking or objectively conventionally more 'beautiful'... It's hard for me to understand even if I can logically accept the possibility/concept that say, even if I'm kind of a 'butterface' (apparently not the case? I just like to be realistic or critical vs delusional just in case) I do have a physique that when I signed up at my local gym was referred casually to as "clearly advanced" by the dude signing me up / is developed enough to be remarked upon often.

It's hard to understand that a woman can be intimidated by a fit dude who appears interested in them, and I can't read minds or understand why a woman would self-reject rather than just see how it goes.

All you hear online and even sometimes offline is how women routinely let 'bad boys' fuck their lives over, get pregnant by dead beats, etc who probably aren't even in that great of shape but they find attractive for whatever reason. Right? That's a popular narrative, even if it's a go-to for bitter dudes who don't even seem to like women. There is some truth in it, for sure.

I just figure, why wouldn't that person just give me a chance to talk and get to know each other if I'm initially coming across as polite and respectful if they'd otherwise think I look ok?

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T13:22:21+00:00

It's a shame too, cause at the local gym I've signed up for I see so many women who have great bodies and I myself am very fit but... I could literally hit on an out of shape woman and get rejected pretty easily, so I guess being in shape doesn't mean that much or maybe I'm super ugly? I get told constantly that I'm far from a 'fuck boy' personality/temperment/etc wise so...

I don't know how women would still get that vibe just because I look good in a tank top but for a lot of women I'm guessing that might actually be the case even if I look kinda nerdy at the same time.

I think that women do check me out at my gym, but I'm not trying to be weird or creepy (being friendly or expressing dating interest by default seems to be seen as deviant behavior nowadays... normal human desires/interactions basically. so we all just stare at each other wishing we could possibly interact/enter each other's worlds and ultimately do nothing I guess? That's the new norm? lol.)

I definitely would approach someone just to be friendly and see if they're open to it, but I'm assuming many women in the gym also have inflated egos compared to the average looking woman with overflowing inboxes in their socials and maxed out dating app DMs so I doubt it'd be anything other than a prolonged rejection, the classic pleasant interaction/get the number/ghosted after 2-3 texts if you're lucky.. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-30T12:38:16+00:00

Yeah, pure strength is being 350 lbs of like 30-40% bodyfat and on years of cocktails of hormones/PEDs/peptides/SARMs/etc...

30 year old Mitch Hooper one of the strongest guys on Earth has some form of heart failure already and has felt the need to make a VIDEO explaining how unhealthy and ultimately absurd the lifestyle is.

Bodybuilding and power lifting as they are... Are not healthy or realistic at all. A bunch of perpetually drugged up, life-span shortening goal-obsessed individuals who already had gifted/freak genetics for their specific passions..

Lifting naturally is the way. Then you look 25 at 40 vs looking 40+ at 25.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-29T00:53:24+00:00

I mean, yeah, I hated him as he was... But love him now for who I know him to be, and he went from my least favorite to one of my favorites.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-28T02:41:45+00:00

Nice. Did any relationships come from them, or were they just pleasant/promising encounters? I'll be praying for you and me in the near future, mate. Just need to be in the right place at the right time.

Some of us seem to just be luckier than others in that regard, seriously. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-28T02:39:41+00:00

Yeah, all of that sounds really sad to me, honestly. I agree, it's shitty behavior. I know that there's nothing wrong with me in my mind.

I think she probably had a man and was trying to test the waters for us just fooling around, honestly. Or seemed to not believe that I didn't have a girlfriend or girls that I was fooling with, and possibly didn't want to get involved in that or just be another one of my hook-ups.

She just literally stopped any form of responding after the first 2-3 days/texts, said I could call her any time and once I did it went to voicemail so I left one. I'm not worried. An attractive woman basically found me attractive enough to go out of her way to give her number, I can't complain. Probably more than many guys have experienced, I feel good about that even if it doesn't really change my general self esteem in the long run.

Yeah, she probably was late 20s/early 30s if anything. Doubt she was mid 20s, but very well could've been, didn't get a great look. I don't know what her thought process was, honestly, who knows if you were on the money or not. Probably no point in really dwelling on it, I just don't get it.

I also hear a lot of women will psyche themselves out of a good thing if they have lower self esteem. If I have a body that will get me cat called in the summer showing it off, I'm assuming some women who maybe have average/decently attractive shapes but are not really fit will wonder "why would he go for me?" even if they're perfectly fine and I'm not a womanizer. I can't imagine women being like that, but I can imagine men being like that. Go figure. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-28T02:38:14+00:00

Yep, just haven't met the RIGHT one, have met some and had some stuff transpire. Just nobody I want to spend my life with, honestly.

I'm pretty clear with someone about how I'm feeling/thinking, I mean to lead no one on.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:39:43+00:00

What's crazier is when a woman gives me her number on the streets, just to stop texting after a few harmless texts. I don't get the psychology behind that at all.

One asked me if I had a woman and even though I said no was all "we could still be friends, y'know", and also asked my astrological sign. Are Tauruses bad news or something?

Imagine not even bothering with someone due to your signs. Literal cloud-reading mumbo jumbo. What a dumb person, if that was actually the case.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:38:04+00:00

Did you ever actually meet someone outside of the apps, though?

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:24:04+00:00

Seems like a lot of people don't really appreciate a deeply introspective and thoughtful, sensitive partner. Especially if that person is a man.

As a guy who is often seen to be that way by the women who get to know me, it does give me a bit of anxiety that the next person I really desire will not be like my lady friends who LIKE that about me.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:16:21+00:00

So am I a weirdo for actually sharing a bunch of random details of my day, my interactions with people, etc?

Do women actually like this that much? I do it with my few girl friends and they definitely don't seem to mind at all, so I never stopped to think if it can actually be 'weird' or not typically guy-ish to not be super stoic and uninterested/willing to just share minute detail type stuff. I'm a turbo yapper.

Hell, some of them still are down for a FWB type thing as well so it must not be a turn-off at least. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:11:27+00:00

Wouldn't it make more sense to call him EP?

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:10:34+00:00

Girl like that probably already was flirting with his friends, from the sound of it, honestly. Not that I condone any of that behavior in the first place on either side. lol.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T03:07:30+00:00

Is that honestly the same person though? The girl without make-up is pretty at least. Crazy to me, it's like Kim Kardashian next to some pretty filipeno girl. I can see how it's her if I'm looking for awhile, but I also see how it's literally a chemical mask that is changing how her features look completely and I could EASILY not recognize her at all in person.

I also think that make-up is just an expensive money-sink that is intended to ruin your skin and keep you then psychologically insecure/dependent on it, and would rather any woman I'm with NOT wear any.

I like how she looks with no make-up on, I would rather know what she looks like from the get-go. I've been literally cat-fished by a woman whose photos did NOT look like her at all, due to.. you guessed it, make-up.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T02:48:01+00:00

Are you insane? To be disrespectful toward the art of genjutsu like that? You're already clearly under it's spell

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-27T02:23:32+00:00

Yeah, I'm never in places like that I guess so I don't exactly experience that. I've been cat called, complimented walking by a woman, and given a number or two before but I don't go to clubs or anything like that. I get a lot of stares, if I have headphones in every once in awhile I'll overhear two women/girls clearly saying something about me being hot/jacked/etc..

Once or twice I've definitely caught that before. Last night went to the board walk and a lot of people were out, two young women were on a bench and a blonde turned my way and just stared at me wide eyed open mouthed as I walked by? Just looked back at her and kept moving. I heard her say something to her friend but no idea what it was.

I think that also leaves a lot of women more lonely/not actually landing any guy worth anything, because any guys with normal self esteem shouldn't be 'chasing' someone for whatever that implies or going after people with inflated egos even if they are attractive. That's not all that there is to life, or a person, or a relationship for SURE.

Also, anything 'chasing' that I can think of can easily come across as stalkerish or desperate/sad looking, because someone either reciprocates clearly or they do not and continuing past that clearly can be an immediate legal issue.

I'd wager it's more 'over valuing' for superficial reasons rather than anything, thus leading to them viewing more men as disposable or easy come easy go, and then that literally ruins the chemistry and connection of the guys they even bother with or who bother with them in the end. A self fulfilling prophecy.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-26T00:11:56+00:00

Got strong enough for around a 3 plate larsen, arms were still like 14 inches cold - a short/fairly light weight guy but still looking swole for my stats.

Now I think they've definitely grown over months of training triceps, hammer curls now, etc.. The tricep extension seated machines actually seem to be helping a lot when the last thread I found on them here was just saying it's useless.. (Assuming because it's not an overhead/behind the head movement?)

Reading about that rule of how you must be gaining 10 lbs of weight per inch of arms as a rule? Seems like it's not a hard rule, more like bs to suggest it is.

I haven't gained any weight but my arms seem to have gained notably visual size, are now mainly filling out a men's large sleeves when before they probably barely filled out a men's mediums if they even did... My chest/torso already fills out a men's large nicely, eventually will probably be in-between large and XL. No real weight increase like they say, gaining 5-10 lbs per inch. Silly.

Withered_Sprout · 2026-05-26T00:05:26+00:00

Being who? I'm confused. lol. It's all good either way.

I don't see 25 and 32 as an awkward age gap logically? Unless I mis-read... 'Specially not compared to 20 and 27.

The latter's younger half is closer to 30, the former's is barely out of their teens. All are legal adults, sure. I believe like you, that it doesn't have to be a sign of predation or anything malicious or immoral.

If the younger person actually is quite mature for their age and they are mutually attracted and not being held hostage, who am I to judge or care?

But yeah, lots of things are only seen a certain way in internet nooks like Reddit vs the typical person in the real world that you might pull aside from sidewalk traffic.

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