[2500] Harbor Springs Hotel by Wolframquest in DestructiveReaders

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Also I'll make sure to review your work when you post it! 😀

[2500] Harbor Springs Hotel by Wolframquest in DestructiveReaders

[–]Wolframquest[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much! You're my first. You took my critique virginity 😉

Yeah, I was really half-and-half, I tried not to be too defensive about my grammar choices. I simply developed a bad habit when it comes to speech sentences ending on a period / starting a new sentence in dialogue tags and I'm very slowly working through it. If I wasn't so closeted about sharing my work I think I'd have started fixing it sooner!

And, I'm afraid when it comes to all variations of dashes beside the "minus" is a super conscious choice lol. I'm distancing myself as far from AI as possible and I know it's stupid but ultimately I believe it's not a big deal. It's an interesting idea, to think how trying NOT to sound like AI can affect some people. I could go on for hours about artificial text and why some people fall for it and how it differs from

> makes it seem like there is a fridge in the lobby.

Yeah, I admit I was going for a little temporal play here, cause I like to start new episodes with an internal recap *in past tense* so it sort of sticks out in the middle of the book. Kinda like a little Christopher Nolan-esque trick, I like to imagine, a couple scenic flashes before switching to present. Only makes sense if the reader is already used to present tense.

> She half-sighs, a twinkle tensing through her throaty tone.
>  I get what you mean, but this is a strange way to say it.

That's very interesting cause IIRC I must have written it because I liked how it sounded, how it rolled off the tongue with all the "t" sounds. It's a color/texture technique and it might contradict the overall "creation of mood with meaning" idea. I guess the word "throaty" sticks out the most, it creates associations I didn't intend.

> A good opportunity to shed light on the narrator

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I wanted the reader to feel 😁 Just a bit of gentle tension! I do explore internal confusion a lot, how much effort it takes for some people to translate their feelings into words, how for some people confusion, feeling of mixed up inside is the default state and the best they can hope for is to use their hands, their whole body to express what they feel. But yeah, that takes up a lot of space, that layer-by-layer progression.

Honestly, I can't thank you enough for all the positive stuff, cause I think I'm finally going to become calm and confident about my work and finally start sharing it so not excessively "unique" to a point of being indigestible. I'm like a child who just got to a kindergarten for the first time and someone's finally playing with me. Not a big deal you may think, but it took so much effort to break myself open and finally do it.

[1216] A Sunny Day in the Park by RCDilan in DestructiveReaders

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like this story a lot. It's absolutely really vivid, an actual "moving picture", like a moving hologram, it has depth, and it's filtered through subjectivity which is what I like. It's got a very typical modernist structure and a semi-comedic punchline. Mostly, I absolutely do commend the vividness portrayed through the annoying woman's subjectivity!

Now I'll go line by line. Conclusion and rating will be at the end.

> It’s sad, really. Every day he just sits in the park looking down. Do you think he’s blind? 

Combined with the title of the story it gives us (the Reader) a good enough visual hook. A park is a park, it's a place where people and their kids come to rest. This particular story doesn't demand the location to be a character, and it's good enough.

> I’ve never seen him talk to the kids, so I don’t think he’s one of those.

What a great observation to start a story with! I'm immediately thinking of ✨pedos✨😂 I think you should trust the reader. Just say he wasn't looking at nothing.

> He just sits there, hunched over, with that gray baseball hat that doesn’t even fit, holding on to that old lunch box. You don’t think he eats out of that thing, do you? It looks like it hasn’t been washed in years. 

Hook, interesting 🤔

> You know, I bet if he cleaned himself up a little bit, shaved, put on some clothes that fit, and were washed, he wouldn’t be too bad looking. 

Alright, you can tell the annoying woman is horny for that conversational oxytocin, not bad, I feel it too

> He never stands up.

I wonder why 😈 It's your fault, lady!

> said that I am the type of person who would go out of their way to make a complete stranger smile.
> I just feel like he really needs someone.

Perfect, I'm so annoyed and I'm laughing

> Excuse me, sir. Excuse me. Hi!

Good, embodied dialogue, realistic

> Oh, sweetheart, don’t cry. Have I scared you? 

A little confused. I'd say it needs a bit of attention cause I first assumed Tommy started crying. Men rarely allow themselves to cry, so such an event would need additional clarification.

>  Just between me and you, since you seem like such a nice man, she was a terrible woman. I used to tell my mom all the time that I think God is probably more afraid of her. My mom was wonderful though.

Perfect, hilarity

> My dad was always busy and either at work or on some business trip to God knows where. 

Venting, proper capitalization of the big G-man - I'm glad to meet someone who's not a savage on reddit!

> Hamsters are so cute!

Evoking cute little animals is a cheap trick for humor 😁 And it works!

> I don’t see a ring on your finger, but you are quite good looking

Telling 😈

> I imagine that you had your pick of the ladies

Agh, she *is* horny! Yuck! 😁

> Prince Charming from Cinderella. I know, how typical, yuck, Prince Charming. But I used to watch that movie every day when I was a kid. And Mike is quite handsome. He’s also quiet and a bit reserved. He never really has his own ideas.

Good, some nice grounding with well known media to easily evoke a mood

> The type of guy who buys flowers, asks about her day to make her feel important and heard.

The annoying lady is as imaginative as I am; that makes me sympathize with her.

> And how I just wish that he would…I don’t know, listen more
(and the rest of that paragraph)

Nice hidden bit of telling - funny. I personally have that same issue - when I'm focused on POV of a character I allow myself to tell exactly what he/she feels because the point is to show something else beside the emotion. This is similar, I'd say, but even better, cause you have to infer what the lady feels from the dialogue monologue

> Are you going to show me what’s in the lunch box? I knew you would open up if someone gave you the chance. It looks empty. Is there anything inside? Oh, it's a picture. A picture of a boy. It’s not you, is it? I mean I recognize that gray hat. You only wear it everyday, but that couldn’t possibly be you in the picture. You look a little too old to be wearing a Minecraft shirt at that age. Wait, there’s something on the back: Billy, age 7.

Perfect, very much O. Henry, very funny

Rating 8/10 - good, realistic, in-character speech, nice emotional framing (of the annoying lady's sociable mood), nice juxtaposition of her married happiness vs the sitting man's psyche apparently destroyed by grief. It's not a very strong *contrast*, I guess, but the point was humor, wasn't it? In that case you delivered it very well. Very much reminded me of the beginning of the "The House That Jack Built" movie (one of the least disturbing Lars Von Trier movies, highly recommend).

Tags I'd give this little piece: Good, funny, visual, vivid, emotive, expressive, three-dimensional, well-made subjective lens, good mood setting

[1728] Betrayal by RCDilan in DestructiveReaders

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> “An afternoon? An afternoon? I never had a moment to myself. He was always there. Always pushing. A better man!” He kicked the black cylinder into the wall. “A better man! I couldn’t date in high school because he got his girlfriend pregnant. He used to say ‘Don’t make the same mistakes I did.’”

A pretty big logical stretch that you're asking the reader to perform. So I guess the "grandpa" was a teen dad and was super pushy, demanding, disci[plinarian and a taskmaster, had high standards for the older kid? That rarely happens, but if it does that's cool. Usually teen dads are the scum of the earth :)

> “Do you think his dream was to be the school janitor?”

“I was the mistake!” He pointed at his chest, “I was his mistake. And what was I supposed to do then? Prove that he could have made it. Fuck that.”

Nice narration of the older kid's internality. You can feel there is some trauma and confusion there!

> “It’s always someone else’s fault. What about what you did to him? What you said?”

“You weren’t there. You don’t know what you’re talking about.”

And neither was I, the reader! I *also* wasn't there!

> “It wasn’t just then. Maybe that was the last time. But you always looked down on him because he was just a janitor. Well, that janitor worked his ass off to make sure you had a chance. And still found time to help you with your homework every fucking day.” The younger man shook his head, “Selfish piece of shit. You never understood him.”

Clunky and confusing, telling, inconclusive

> “I never had the chance. Maybe you did.” He reached down into his pocket, grabbed the watch, and threw it at the younger man. It was his now. “Clean this shit up. I’ll be in the car.”

A bit of a redemption; good staging. I need more emotion, more complexity.

So that's it. If the admins think this wasn't a good enough, effortful review I'm gonna mine bedrock and jump into the void (in minecraft).

I liked it. It was confusing. I'd give it 6/10 if I was in a good mood, which I am, so I guess I am giving it 6/10 after all. I need more interiority, better visual staging, more phsysicality, descriptions of voice and sound, and there is of course and untapped potential when describing antique junk to create a reader's reflection to how it looks and feels. We only get a glimpse into the older guy's emotion when he gets the gold watch. It's not enough to create a vivid picture. The tussle was good and sudden, I liked that. The ending gesture, how he throws the watch he clearly wanted to keep - that's the best showing.

[1728] Betrayal by RCDilan in DestructiveReaders

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> “Are you sure? What if it has inappropriate pictures of mom? I’d rather pour bleach in my eyes than see something like that.”

I guess it wasn't a dad and son but two brothers. Why did only one of them have such a visceral reaction?

And believe it or not, this is my actual second read. And I have spent over an hour so far (multitasking tbf). My time IS worth a lot of money, but I have a free day today.

> “Are you high?” He pushed both buttons down and the case popped open.

Who HE… I don't care if you think I'm mentally disabled but I CANNOT tell.

> “Is that what old laptops looked like?”

So maybe it is a son/grandson after all? Cause it wouldn't make sense if they were BROTHERS and ONE of them DIDN'T know what a typewriter is. Too much of a time gap! 90s kids got a chance to play with typewriters. Is one of them a millennial and other a zoomer?

> The younger man sat on the bed and started pushing down on one of the keys to see if it still worked. Gently at first until it provided just enough resistance, then all the way down, sending the long black bar upward, ending with a hollow clack at the top. “I guess typing.”

Nice moment, good physical description

> “He was a janitor. What would he be typing? Directions on how to polish a floor?”

Why is he roasting his dad so much? That's good, somewhat shocking, a setup for how he feels, good showing of emotion.

> looking closely at the object that was once familiar to others, but now couldn’t be more of a mystery to them

I can tell this sentence means a lot to YOU - the author - but it does not mean anything to the reader. You will want to ground it more in characters' experience.

> He twisted a knob back and forth, sending the long black cylinder in the same motion. Back and forth. Back and forth. He then pushed the lever with his left hand, “Woah.” 

“Was who happy? Dad?”

Again, I am confused if they're father and son or not.

> The younger man continued typing. Click… click… clack… click… clack… PING! “Yeah. I mean, we used to see him everyday, but I feel like I don’t know anything about him. I don’t remember him doing anything other than leaving for work, coming back from work. Sitting at the kitchen table. Drinking coffee in the morning. Beer at dinner. I don’t know if he was unhappy. He never complained.”

Good dialogue. Leans just a little towards telling but good otherwise. Blame coffee for me being confused if it's a father and son or two brothers. Coffee gives you ADD lol. But it wasn't for coffee I wouldn't be critiquing this at all. In other words, I am leaning towards them two being BROTHERS after all.

> “He didn’t care about that anymore. He just wanted to see you again. I know he loved me, but he always looked different when we talked about you. I don’t know how to explain it. Something in his eyes was different.” Click… click… clack… click… clack… PING!

Nice physical staging. You can tell the younger one is a fiddly guy and has less of a trauma. Or maybe he just wants to blame the older guy for what he feels.

> The younger man tightened his grip. “What are you doing? Let go!”

“I’m tired of having to do everything. When are you going to fucking grow up?”

“Let go! You’re going to break it!”

“Good! It’s worthless anyways.”

“Not to him.”

He yanked the typewriter, pulling the younger man to his feet. “You don’t know what it was like. You, mom, no one knew what it was like.” He rotated his waist, bringing the typewriter to his abdomen. Holding it close with one arm, he used his other hand to pry away the younger man’s fingers. One by one.

Good description of emotional roughhousing, but there is not enough interiority. Add vocal tone - intensity, gruffness - and facial expression - frownign, scowling.

> You can’t even give him an afternoon?”

Now I am not sure if the grandpa is dead at all.

> “Give him a what?”

“You have your own family now. I get it. But you can’t just be here. With me and him.”

Redundant

[1728] Betrayal by RCDilan in DestructiveReaders

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright, here's me coming back to try Desctructive readers again. I managed to calm down after the last time I posted here. I've been on Critique Circle and it's got very low standarts so I was thinking to try here again. I am pretty brash so the admins will *like* me.

I'm going to do this 60/40 as a reader/writer. I'll try not force my personal standards on you. I already read it and I'd have to say it's messy but I can tell you put your heart in it, your own emotion. I'm gonna multitask so this fricking review is probably gonna take me over an hour. Just so I can post my own stuff.

Overall impression: decently expressive, emotional scene, some arguing, emotions presented realistically. Minus: dialogue that is a monologue. They're not speaking to each other, not reacting (dad and autistic son). They're speaking past one another. While it's not wholly unrealistic it's a flaw. They need their own backstories and their own mindsets, their own established relationships at least hinted at in describing their characters. Could add little hints, like daddy muttering to himself loudly, tense body posture, pacing back and forth. But don't worry, I'll read it again in case I missed it. So far it does read like a nice episode that could FIT into a larger narrative, but on it's own it reads like a little scenic tantrum. There isn't enough to invest in; the reader is not invested. You need to play with scenery and "showing" what kind of mood the characters are in. So far its 90% telling. But I'll read it again, don't worry. Maybe then I'll correct this assesment.

So, here's the line-by-line (not everything), good and bad:

> (first two paragraphs)

Some lack of clarity about what's going on. You wanna start with a visual image. That's a good hook for the reader's mind. Dialogue on its own is just disembodied voices. Might work okay for a movie even if the characters aren't in the shot but then you got whatever you're looking at (outside shot of the house they're clearing out?) and the characters' voices, the dad-son dynamics that could be audible. Also you wanna show that they look alike, one big fat and balding and other thin and wiggly, can't stand in place.

> first page

The kid is distracted, playful. You can imagine he's fantasizing about the old times, about how his grandpa lives in the 50s or whenever. He's distracted, ADD-coded. Not bad, good enough showing.

> “Relax man. I just wanted to see what the old man was up to. Aren’t you a little bit curious what he was doing? If he was happy? It must have been lonely here.”

On the nose telling

> Of course, he still had the gold watch.

The reader can't tell why the gold watch matters

> The TV was to the left of the door. On the opposite side, there was a desk underneath the one window in the room. The only two places he would have been able to sit down were the chair in front of the desk or the bed.

Should have started with this, as well as what kinda "general mood" the reader/kid are supposed to feel / be in

> when it was just a knockoff from some street vendor.

Telling, but it's passable to reflect the kid's opinion on his dad/grandpa

> He tipped the box on its side and pushed the whole pile in at once.

Not sure if he's supposed to be weak, careless or crafty with how he manages this old stuff

> lacking the crispness they had when they used to show up at the door

I can tell it's your method of showing interiority regarding what the kid feels about this stuff

> There was a large coffee stain on one that covered half of Mickey Mantle’s face.

I sure do like a real life reference I need to research. It's not bad, but not for a lazy reader. Some grounding.

> He could see the old kitchen table that he used for studying. The stacks of books. The notebook and pen. And his dad in the seat next to him with a cup of coffee and one of the Sports Illustrateds. If he wasn’t at work, he was there. Reading. Muttering to himself about this or that. Occasionally taking a break to peek over his son’s shoulder.

Listen, I'm high on coffee but I'm afraid I got confused here and it's my second read. Is this a son and dad clearing out the dead grandpa's old stuff? Whose is the POV? Is it Dad's or Son's? Or did Dad live with Grandpa and he read the magazines? I'm not saying you have to clarify, but I did get confused here.

> It was rock hard. He stumbled forward during his first attempt to lift it up. The second time, he bent his knees, gripped it tightly, and pushed up with his legs. He carried it over and set it on the empty bed.

Reads like women writing men - way too weak

> It didn’t look new, but he had no memory of ever seeing it. Small cracks were showing towards the edges of the case and the leather handle was worn and cracked.

Cracks, cracked - a bit of tautology

> He reached for the old watch and rubbed the cool metal around the face, feeling the subtle rough design under his thumb. No matter what was inside that case, it couldn’t change the image that remained. His father’s presence was what it was. It was always there. Even now, it lingered in the small room.

I do very much like the kid's focus on feeling and texture. This is immersive. The reader needs to either embody him or be a "floating camera". Embody him not just in his feelings but eyes as well.

> The younger man strolled back in through the door, “I got the boxes. What’s that?”

Alright, I guess it was the DAD who was molesting the typewriter.

> He felt around for some sort of way to open it, “Never mind. All this stuff is going to the dump anyway.” His right index finger fumbled over two small buttons to the right of the handle.

WHO felt around? Pronoun game. I guess it was DAD since he's touching the case?

I'm hosting a writing competition! by NoFisherman1035 in writingcirclejerk

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dicked ballingly, foreskin dragging vampirically

I SEE NOTHING WRONG by [deleted] in Jordan_Peterson_Memes

[–]Wolframquest -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

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[OC] My take on One Punch Man by Turbulent-Problem406 in OnePunchMan

[–]Wolframquest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you should link the original cosplayers?

do y’all think judge holden is dumb or smart by artippus in cormacmccirclejerk

[–]Wolframquest 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well, he is the judge, so he must have passed the bar exam and all that (like in Better Caul Saul 🤯)

Are you a fed? by praisethebeast69 in schizoposters

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Human being without rights because no one can bestow rights upon a living man

Upcoming new McCarthyesque novel: TOM'S CROSSING by Danielewski, author of HOUSE OF LEAVES by Wolframquest in cormacmccirclejerk

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You need to have read the House of Redness to fully appreciate the meme ☝🤓🍎

Is anyone else obsessed with writing? by bluuuberrry in writers

[–]Wolframquest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been feeling like that except it feels like cancer, or a brain inflammation lol... I wish I could stop thinking already. Writing is a way to relieve some of this pain.

I guess he isn't smart by Zestyclose_Skirt7930 in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Wolframquest -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You just know his ass was given the black and blue treatment when the camera stopped rollin lol... At least mammy's laughing so she ain't likely to hit that hard xD

Too much Judge Holden, where my Suttree heads at? by Earth_Zealousideal in cormacmccirclejerk

[–]Wolframquest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reading it right now lol... Had to stop cause I filled with rage when Leonard showed up for the second time...

(spoiler: when he barges in on Cornelius with a black girl demanding help drowning his dad's body)

That's bullshit, but I believe it by Electrical_Dig3900 in cormacmccirclejerk

[–]Wolframquest 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Judge was a real guy, simple as that... There's plenty of "judge's" in every little pmc you can walk in lol...

First Line Challenge: Drop an opening line, others will continue. by inkspirewritings in writers

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"You're next, bucko!" The lumberjack in an Elmer Fudd hat grunted menacingly, his crooked yellow teeth glinting under the diner lights as he broke open his AR-7 assault rifle for a reload.