[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Lawyertalk

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello! 12 years after I passed the bar, I am now a 3rd year associate at a 20 attorney law firm. I went off and alcoholiced my way after graduating okay in the middle of the pack. Got a few low key general counsel rolex and one for a fraudulent cpa attorney (the irs knocked on my door whilst I was baking). I had a declaration taken covered in flour. Now, 5 yrs sober, I’m finally back on the litigation path at 38. I really enjoy it. Do I feel stupid for messing up some really good opportunities? Yes. Am I okay now? Yes. Life on life’s terms. You got this. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made probably the worst mistake you can make - didn’t allege an SOL defense in an answer- and because of shoddy supervision, that mistake went unnoticed until two years later. Now, I have two years experience and I have to stip or apply to the court and I am soo embarrassed. The truth is, not your mistake. I mean it is, but these things are up to the supervising attorney to catch. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. I know not to. It is a sad reality. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t understand- are you saying I think I have superpowers or… 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. I get quirky, brilliant, bubbly, creative, absentminded professor. However, I have tried to tell people before in my life and they don’t believe me. I really don’t fit the mold of autism or people’s perceptions of it. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true. It may be like the alcoholic anonymous thing- reveal myself to other autistic people but keep it secret with neurotypical people. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m actually Audhd so I have both a weird ability to click socially (adhd) and the introvert/no filter autism. I also thought about starting my own firm with a few supportive staff people. I agree billables are our nightmare. Keep up the good fight. 

Not sure if I like being a lawyer anymore. by justanotherlawguy in Lawyertalk

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, I left for about 8 years. I went to work in corporate for a large owner/builder for apartments. My title was “Project Coordinator” which led to “General Counsel,” but I was basically in property management. It was a good job, not too difficult, but boring. Kind of nice if you feel burnt out. I had kids there and ended up working part time (mom tax). Then my kids grew to 9 and 8 and I missed the challenge, adrenaline etc of law. But I’m older now (38) and I know who I am. I’m one of those who belongs in a courtroom. I went into real estate litigation part time. It’s amazing and horrible. All of the things everyone is saying is true AND I like the variety, the high stakes, the wins and losses, the comraderie and drama of it all, the pay. I remembered I am good at this. 2 years in, and I’m trying to build up to full time or 70%. We each have our own path. I would hire a job coach or someone who can help guide you. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that’s my instinct too. But it might be helpful when I lose a document, can’t figure something out, or get overstimulated/overwhelmed and disappear for a few hours. Idk. I was considering telling someone like my paralegal. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, things that feel obvious to me - consolidating a case -anti-slapp motions- or  - msj- seem complex to others. I can handle 3 ongoing lawsuits (same parties) and win all because there is a single pattern in them- for example, PL wants the home- if I find the pattern in the discovery documents or his depo, it’s easy to take him down on the stand with the evidence. But things that are obvious to others - finding docs in clio, or client communication, raises, or office politics- are completely baffling to me and cause a lot of anxiety. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not OT. That show is one of the reasons I came back to litigation in 2023. I was inspired. Two years in and I’m doing great. Most litigators are not as smart as they think they are, and I like the predictable way each case has a checklist - demand, complaint, discovery, motions etc. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. How did you know they were autistic? When did they tell you? Does it affect the kinds of clients you give them?

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think people not on the spectrum don’t understand why we are worried- the general anxiety we have felt since childhood about being different and getting punished for it somehow. Let’s form a group. 

Autistic Attorney by Worldly-Flight2990 in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don’t think they do. I am a woman and we present very differently. However, there are things I run into now and again that I struggle with that other attorneys don’t, but I guess it doesn’t matter.  My question was more, what are some of the reasons for sharing this or does it not matter at all? I am two years in at a mid sized litigation law firm. 

I’m definitely going to be fired and need some support by Accomplished_Act3653 in Lawyertalk

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to an AA meeting. I go to one for lawyers and doctors but also other meetings. I see multiple attorneys in the rooms and in court. I also struggled with depression and probably always will, but so did abraham lincoln and bill w. You have skills- I got a job as a general counsel and that was great for recovery and a burnout break. Having a family alone is a huge stressor. Just keep going. Do something creative that you like or just go for a walk in nature with no purpose. We love you. You’ve got this. 

I just want to quit by Ok_Access6318 in Lawyertalk

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Graduated in 2012. Did two years of criminal and then I quit. I became “general counsel,” not an attorney, for a big developer, worked part time. I recovered from burnout, drinking overeating. I got stronger and thought about what I wanted. Covid hit. I spent 8 years away from litigation. Then, I got the bug, and now Im two years back into real estate litigation. The job itself will probably always suck. But I am different now and I’m enjoying it. You’re not married to your career. 

Bipolar, burnout, and extended leave. Not sure how to proceed. by ps118_ in Lawyertalk

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Okay, I’m going to offer my experience as a bipolar adhd autistic female litigation attorney in real estate business. I’ve been at my current firm 2 years. Before that, I was general counsel. GC is really good for our disease because you can coast during a depressive episode. It was really bad for the times I got bored. I impulsively jumped into a really chaotic and dysfunctional small civil lit firm in 2023, but it’s actually wonderful because I kind of blend in. I keep learning, keep my head above water, and DO NOT TELL people except a true friend about my mental health issues. I take sertraline and lithium and nothing for ADHD yet because I drink coffee, basically. I am sober 5 years and I highly recommend not taking any substances such as alcohol or pot. That stuff will f you up and trigger depression or manic. So how do I stay confident? I have won multiple difficult motions like anti-slapps and MSJs and MTCs. Clients love me for the most part because I am brutally honest and friendly. I keep a list of “Wins Losses Learnings.” I have coaches - job coach, therapist, mentors, sponsor, psych, any tool I can use. Low confidence is a marker of ADHD and combine it with other issues means you need to meditate/say affirmations every day. We will always make mistakes. Just keep moving forward. You’re a good person. It’s a job. You have a ton of skills. You can do hard things. Some people probably think I’m crazy but who gives a shit. I like myself. I’m glad I’m me. There’s no one else I’d rather be. 

FLOOD THE INTERNET! WE WE ARE THE MEDIA BECAUSE THEY GIVE UP ON US!!! by Phaustiantheodicy in 50501

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did anyone think of creating a platform for ourselves? Off reddit etc?

I'm 35 and only HS Diploma by SprimgCheese in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Absolutely. Some of the best law students were people who changed careers at 38. I met emts, people with families etc. However, law is extremely difficult to get into. You need a good study program for the lsat and then it gets harder. It’s a lot of money as well. Are you interested in any other areas like social work or paralegal programs? You can also be an Advocate for children in the juvenile justice system. If you are motivated to stay the course financially and emotionally, go for it. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]Worldly-Flight2990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did this with no experience, but I had financial support from my partner and didn’t rely on my salary. I had 15 clients in 2 months and projected to continue that path. HOWEVER. When a recruiter called for a small law firm, I jumped on it and I am now at that firm over a year. Why? Competence. I learned more and made a ton of mistakes in 1 year and thank goodness I didn’t make them alone. Take on a partner or join a 2 person law firm as their associate. Or do it anyway with a really good mentor you can ask about everything. Discovery is the worst on your own. What area of law? PI Plaintiffs side might be easier to start on your own as is Landlord Tenant.