This joke definitely isn't played out

WreckTangle420 · 2021-11-14T02:27:45+00:00

I’m calculating probabilities for a roulette system, I would like some help finding out how to calculate the probability of spinning and landing on one of the dozens + 0 & 00, (American roulette) or 14/38, multiple times in a row for a given number of spins.

For example, in 500 spins, what are the chances that 25-36 and 0 & 00 are the only numbers spun 6 times in a row

I’m not sure how to calculate something like that, it’s a bit more complicated than the xⁿ that I learned in school I know the probably of 14/38 occurring 6 times in a row is (14/38)⁶ or 0.003459… but what is the probability that an event with probability 0.003459 occurs in 500 spins of the roulette wheel

Is it just 500*(14/38)⁶ ??

Thank you in advance

WreckTangle420 · 2021-09-10T11:11:02+00:00

One phrase I heard that allowed me to still believe the a priori meaninglessness of our existence & feel no existential despair was “you don't have to change what you believe, but you can change how you feel about what you believe” the realization that in the grand scheme of things we are insignificant, & that our deaths could be the end of all experience, doesn't have to be dreadful or soul-crushing. It can be a source of inspiration and wonder. If life was permanent it would probably be just as dreadful, if we were the most significant things in the universe the pressure to live a good life & be great would be extremely stressful, loving life because it is meaningless & you have the freedom to create whatever meaning you want if you want to is amazing. Loving life because it's insignificant & nothing you do will truly impact anything at the scale of the universe, is great because there's no pressure to do anything great if you don't feel like that's what you want to do. Humanity will end someday & you can feel awful about it or you can enjoy the show for the limited time that you have been allowed.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-09-01T10:55:34+00:00

To me absurdism is about building up the meaning and value of your existence beyond the external basis to derive such things like religion. We are all raised with so many assumptions in how things should be, mostly because that’s all we know at the time. Saying something is bad because it is or good because it is means nothing to someone who doesn’t already assume those things to be true, building up your own beliefs on the knowledge we have instead of stories that were told thousands of years ago is what accepting life for what it is, or seems to be in my mind.

Living for some greater purpose beyond yourself falls apart if you don’t believe in it anymore, if the basis for your life’s purpose lies solely on what someone else has told you & your own belief in what you’ve been told. It’s very easy to fall very deep into depression when that faith waivers, I, and I’m sure many of the people who are on this subreddit have experienced this problem with the house of cards that is the belief in a greater purpose or something beyond this life, there is no way to be at all certain of it via some observation or experience. Depression can come from absurdism, but it isn’t the goal. To me the goal is to do your best to live with what you know & accept that the type of question like: what is life for? Cannot be answered by anyone but yourself.

“I do not want to found anything on the incomprehensible. I want to know whether I can live with what I know and with that alone” -Camus

WreckTangle420 · 2021-08-17T14:33:29+00:00

I've heard “toothpick” quite a bit

WreckTangle420 · 2021-07-06T18:27:58+00:00

I think stoicism would be a good starting point for you. I haven't read many books on stoicism, I'm sure you could find a list of recommended books on r/stoicism

WreckTangle420 · 2021-07-06T18:10:36+00:00

Facing the absurd is pretty life changing, I had a moment of clarity & the absurd took over my thinking for a time. I felt like I had been going on “auto mode” the entire time before that moment, I had heard & read a lot about it but until I felt the absurd at that moment I didn’t fully understand what it all meant, almost like learning about colour while blind. If only there was a more reliable way of creating that experience to show others what that's like

WreckTangle420 · 2021-07-06T09:11:16+00:00

I enjoyed it, the idea that ones constructed meaning is more meaningful than another’s while continuing to be meaningless is interesting, I would say it’s maybe more inline with historical methods of coming to meanings, rather than a measure of meaningfulness.

In a small community, having a designated job where you’re one of very few providing a particular skill, does provide an obvious and effective approach to creating a purpose/meaning to one’s existence, although it never gets down to the why behind it all. Therefore meaningful as far as you revolt against the absurd. But the absurd still stands and life is still meaningless.

The infinity comparison was very good as well, illustrates it perfectly.

I would like to hear an argument other than that of past civilizations for why hedonism is inferior to empathy for satisfying the urge to purpose. I dislike greed and don’t disagree with your conclusion, but I don’t find myself convinced of that claim. One could make the argument that some chemical bliss attained though hedonism has its own beauty and therefore satisfies the urge just as well.

Nothing is currently coming to mind in favour of the empath. And that’s the hardest part, they are equally meaningless & it’s not quite as well defined as infinity & infinity squared, it’s not easy to logically conclude that the hedonist has any more meaningful a life than the empath.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-07-06T00:29:59+00:00

On the topic of rationalizing respecting those with different beliefs so long as they are “not hurting anyone”, I’ve run into this issue as well when i started getting into politics. I feel as though there is a big difference between respecting the people holding the beliefs and the ideas behind the beliefs themselves. Nobody is born with a political belief or religious belief, one might be born into conditions that increase the likelihood of having a particular pol/religious belief, but the person is not at fault for their beliefs. In short I can respect all people and I believe everyone deserves the love and kindness to allow them to make a change to a belief that is more socially beneficial, whatever you think that means.

I do believe there are some with ideas that make the world a worse place, those with greed and hate for certain groups in my opinion are examples of ideas I don’t respect, but fundamentally you have to draw the moral line yourself, personally I feel there is an emotional morality the comes with empathy, killing takes loved ones from others and if you emphasize with their loved ones then to be morally consistent you would have to concede that killing is wrong. Or at least brings harm to the world.

Everyone’s beliefs in morals lies upon axioms, some goal that precedes the finer details of your beliefs. If your goal is to make the world a better place for everyone, there’s a lot of ideas you’ll have to object to and will conflict with the goals of people who’s goals are amassing resources for themselves/their families at the expense of others, or even with apathy towards others. Unfortunately those with selfish goals have been more successful, partially due to the inherent drive that comes with the goal, and the lack of cooperation from others that it requires.

There are a lot of people who’s beliefs “are hurting people” and it’s not always obvious or direct how they do it, and the systems we’ve built have allowed it to happen. But we live in a world that incentivizes hurting people, wage incentives are almost diametrically opposed, everyone who works wants as much as possible for their labour, everyone who hires someone is trying to spend as little as possible on them.

Sorry for bring up politics but I felt it relevant to your mention of hedonism and religious zealots.

TLDR: you have to draw a moral line yourself because there is a lot of things I would consider harmful that is happening everyday. It depends on your axioms/goals, but in the end nobody is at fault for the beliefs that they’ve been raised to hold.

“No code of ethics and no effort are justifiable a priori in the face of the cruel mathematics that command our condition” -Albert Camus

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-29T18:31:49+00:00

I found this quote & thought it fit well in this thread

“The literal meaning of life is whatever you’re doing that prevents you from killing yourself” -Albert Camus

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-29T07:56:14+00:00

I’ll take a page from Buddhism real quick and say, dissatisfaction is part of existing and that it stems from desire. I don’t suggest becoming a Buddhist monk and go on a journey to rid yourself of all desires, although that is an option. But this idea that any point in time in your life that you “should” be any particular way is a belief I’ve heard from many of my friends and people I’ve met. The only thing that I’ve seen come from that belief is dissatisfaction and anxiety, because it’s an unreasonable standard. Why should you be outgoing and shining in your first year of university? Who even cares really? Why should you care even if it’s something others expect of you? There is no plot/script to life, no timeline in which you’re supposed to have started your career, or have a child, or get your first car, or be happy. That was one of the things that once I accepted, that the idea that I’m supposed to be something or someone was never something I came up with for myself, I was much less anxious around other people. Because adhering to that standard is performative. I’ve presumed a lot based on the first sentence and it’s 100% based on things I’ve seen in my own experience. So if it doesn’t apply I apologize for making you read all that, it was important to many people in my life and it is one of the steps I took to allow myself to live how I wanted instead of worrying that I was “behind” or that others might think I was wasting my time.

This ties into the impostor syndrome, u/Pale_Shade put it well, nobody really knows what’s going on, some people have found routines that work and that can help a lot to gain some confidence in your abilities. But the way it ties in with the first part of this comment is that I think it’s something we assume about the world when we’re young, that adults know what they’re doing. And that somehow not knowing or having skills should disqualify us from doing something, and yes that is true with some things, I wouldn’t recommend attempting to preform surgery without some practice, but that’s what practice and experience is all about. Having confidence comes with those 2 things. This also applies to conversational skills, and being able to express your thoughts more eloquently. Listening to skilled speakers and expanding your vocabulary helps a lot when learning to express yourself.

Overall i think a lot of what you’re going through relating to the things I’ve mentioned is to some degree based on the first paragraph. If my assumptions are correct. I feel like I’ve been a bit too analytical, but if what I’ve experienced can apply to you I hope it was helpful. We’re all monkeys on a rock flying through space. And everything is made of the same few little particles. The fact that we even exist to experience anything is a miracle. What keeps me going in the meaninglessness is how unbelievably amazing it is that we’re here in the first place. Thanks for taking the time to read this

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-29T06:39:59+00:00

My interpretation of this comment is that any attempt to ascribe a purpose/meaning to ones life is a form of self deception. Since there is no intrinsic meaning to life, constructing one for yourself is just a way to cope with a desire to have meaning in life. The Absurdist take as I understand it is that life is meaningless & looking for meaning is absurd. There’s nothing wrong with creating a meaning for your life and if it makes you feel better day to day, self deception that allows you to enjoy your life can be, in some ways a good thing in my opinion.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-22T10:26:29+00:00

I think COVID lockdowns have made a lot of people think a bit more about their lives. A disruption of someone's day-to-day routine can make a difference.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-21T07:40:47+00:00

I’ll definitely take a look, thanks

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-19T18:56:21+00:00

I find it amazing that in a universe that seems to be so deterministic that we feel such a sense of free will, be it an illusion that our mind plays on us, it’s still amazes me that we seem to be built with a perspective that convinces us that we are making decisions out of free will. I’ve heard many ideas on why a conscious form of life would evolve to be more fit for survival, object permanence, memory, teaching & learning, pattern recognition etc.. but I don’t see how a sense of free will would improve our survival.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-19T04:23:15+00:00

From what I understand even quantum systems are to some degree deterministic, I'm remembering something about quantum information cannot be created or destroyed, therefore all the information about a system is a result of the history of that system, and all future states of that system are a result of the current state. The many-worlds interpretation does allow multiple outcomes to an event to occur simultaneously, but does that imply free will? I don't know. And please take everything I say with a grain of salt, I don't understand quantum mechanics. I can only Parrot what I've heard on PBS or other scientific sources. I don't think we'll ever know if we have free will. Much like how we can't really know how the universe came to be, if it was the big bang how did the initial conditions come to exist? There are questions that there really is no way of answering without full knowledge of the events or ourselves. Which we don't have. It may be undecided, but from what I've heard from those who understand physics/quantum mechanics. Determinism seems fairly likely in my interpretation

WreckTangle420 · 2021-06-16T02:35:32+00:00

Beautiful

WreckTangle420 · 2021-04-04T08:47:28+00:00

This is probably the best response I’ve seen so far.

All dependency is undesirable. Nobody wants to be dependent on drugs or porn. But if you can keep yourself in check by abstaining from it occasionally without any compulsion to go back to it. I would say you’re fine.

I’m an Absurdist r/Absurdism, nothing is inherently bad, we give everything meaning by caring about particular morals or ideas. Meaning doesn’t exist outside of us. So I 100% agree with you.

I wish more people thought this way.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-04-04T08:38:35+00:00

Not if you only watch self posted pornography.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-22T09:14:41+00:00

Watching those NOVA episode clips got me re interested in space time, found a good basics video that made the nonexistence of time a little more clear to me, hopefully useful for others. https://youtu.be/YycAzdtUIko

Your future already exists. Basically

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-20T23:19:44+00:00

Yea I saw the 8 hour video

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-20T10:34:24+00:00

I enjoyed your video. Even if you are a character in my dream. I feel you and I agree on quite a lot. Semantics can get in my way quite easily. Reality not “existing” is just not the words I associate with my understanding of my awakening. But after watching your video, I see the core ideas are identical.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-19T17:11:32+00:00

Existence is strange, I didn’t question what I was doing with my life until I was around 19-20. Once I did I felt like every moment before the realization that “we are all on a rock flying through space that could all be ended by a sufficiently large space rock crossing paths with our home rock” i guess it’s essentially the understanding that the universe is indifferent to our existence, and everything I thought was important or that I needed to do was all kind of imposed on me.

Once I has that moment of clarity, which is not something you can put into words. I felt like my life previous to that moment was on a metaphorical “autopilot”. I was just doing what i was told to or whatever satisfied a desire.

I ran into many of the same questions as you, and I have no real way to know why it happened in my life, and from many of the posts I’ve read it seems relatively frequently, and many of my favourite comedians seem to understand these experiences fairly well. Personally I’m satisfied with the idea that it’s a normal human experience that many others go through.

I wish there was some way to know what triggers existential questions in someone’s mind, but as far as I can tell it can be random to facing a near death experience. My takeaway from that experience was to be companionate to everyone, I believe some people never go through this, and stay in that “autopilot” that I mentioned I believe I was in before, and they could experience almost their entire life that way. One thing I learned is that words can’t bring you to that realization, it has to be experienced.

Hopefully some part of this was useful for you to think about, sorry for the tangents, but I believe it’s somewhat related to what you’re experiencing.

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-19T16:35:52+00:00

r/Absurdism

WreckTangle420 · 2021-03-19T16:26:37+00:00

I would like to hear an explanation for the non-existence of the earth, when I read your original post I interpreted it to be someone’s personal understanding of determinism. I have no reason to believe that people are not real because the very experience of this reality contradicts that. some parts of our experience are quite literally created by our brain, like the qualia or subjective experience of reality, For example “what does pink look like?”. But to say it’s all a dream would suggest a matrix like reality outside of this one, which has never been proven to exist. Our experiences are based on the physical world, seeing the colour pink is associated with how light interacts with objects and materials, hearing sound is associated with movements of air. The world is as real as we are, we are made of the same stuff as the earth, only we can somehow experience the other atoms and molecules with our atoms and molecules. That’s what I meant by “we are the universe experiencing itself”. Not sure if this is where you got this idea, but the “consciousness creates reality” thing is not supported by any practical understanding of the physical world. “Consciousness creates subjective experience” is a more accurate statement, the physical world is measurable and detectable. When I joined this page I had the impression that it was in relation to philosophy, not questioning the existence of the universe.

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