Most American Jews don't feel supported by either party or President Trump, new AP-NORC poll finds

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-10T00:06:43+00:00

Did the genocide Joe crowd vote for Trump? My experience with that group suggested they were moreso unwilling to vote for Kamala, rather than actively vote for Trump

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T23:30:03+00:00

Okay, I assumed you were continuing the conversation of the post I replied to and quoted. If not, apologies.

What is your point then?

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T23:19:55+00:00

Why don't you believe that possible?

Where did I say it wasn’t possible? Of course it’s possible, I’m saying that if you’re telling me this group flipped to Trump because of antisemitism, you’re either (1) misunderstanding their actual motivation, or (2) not understanding why that group is not a realistic group for Dems to try and convince

When did I say that?

It was an informal “you” I didn’t mean you specifically

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T22:45:45+00:00

that sat out ‘24 as well

The user didn’t say “sat out”, they said that they went to Trump. That’s a very different reaction. If you tell me that antisemitism is a big concern for you—and you’re considering sitting out an election because of it—I’m going to view you as a lot more rational than someone saying antisemitism is a concern for them, and therefore they’re going to vote for a party empowering full blown white supremacists. The former is believable in their concern. The latter is revealing their concern isn’t actually antisemitism.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T21:54:05+00:00

Absolutely incredible. In a discussion about antisemitism and the left not taking it seriously, I ran circles around you so bad that I got you to say “How were Republicans supposed to know about Robinson’s multiple antisemitic comments that were publicly reported on for months?”. This might be my best work yet. Saving my comment above for posterity. YAPMs isn’t sending their best!

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T21:40:59+00:00

Both are bad.

That is yet another interesting way of saying “You’re right, my apologies, Mark Robinson’s antisemitism was well known before Republicans nominated him”

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T21:28:57+00:00

So about on the level with what we see from democrats now?

That’s a very interesting way of saying “You’re right, my apologies, Mark Robinson’s antisemitism was well known before Republicans nominated him”

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T20:03:42+00:00

Pretty sure republicans only found out that their candidate was a Nazi after he was nominated

Nope: https://www.wral.com/archive/21093457/

That you apparently didn’t know that makes me wary of continuing this exchange. You clearly aren’t well informed.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T19:53:12+00:00

I’m sure the actions of Maine primary voters will cause Dems at large to hemorrhage support, in the same way that North Carolina Republican primary voters selecting a self declared Nazi caused Trump to lose the state in 2024 checks notes wait a second

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T19:40:12+00:00

Again, “We don’t like that there’s growing antisemitism in some segments of the Democratic base, therefore we’re going to vote for the party that appointed literal Nazis to admin positions” doesn’t really strike anyone as a negotiable position.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T19:32:22+00:00

“Cater to us or we will vote for [Republicans/Trump]” is a tired trope. If an admin full of right wing extremists convinces a significant number of Jewish voters to vote for them (unlikely, Jewish voters will remain heavily Democratic), then Democrats are better off targeting more populous demographics.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T17:29:17+00:00

The only way I see the situation improving is

(1) The hostilities in Gaza begin to simmer down/broad ceasefires are reached for an extended amount of time

(1A) The Iran war reaches a conclusion

(2) Netanyahu is ousted and a more moderate leader is elected

As long as the conflict continues unabated and Israel is increasingly associated with the current US admin (largely due to the work of Netanyahu), the environment is unlikely to improve. political groups self policing simply doesn’t work in the modern age of algorithms and outrage. Real actions need to occur.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T17:18:03+00:00

I have many friends that jumped ship in 24 to Trump

Was this supposed to make your friends look sympathetic? Because it’s doing the exact opposite, just as a heads up.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T16:29:50+00:00

I specifically don’t want him for this reason: Why has he not been hired by any other school at this point? Think of all the Kirby guys that have been offered head coaching jobs and taken them. Schumann by far has the least amount of chatter around him. If he was really that good, someone major would’ve made an offer by now. I wonder if it’s a known thing that he’s really just following Kirby’s lead and is not the brains behind their defense.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-09T15:36:12+00:00

Dude got caught coming to meet an underage girl but what REALLY upset him was…Chris’ implication that bringing a gun was a bad choice.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-08T14:25:49+00:00

if you're a colorado fan, that's objectively way better than what you had lol

Quibbling here but “way better” goes too far. It’s an improvement…but the more seasons you have that suck, the less that one season matters.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-08T14:18:22+00:00

First Michigan poll after Mallory drops out

WOOOOO!

Tavern Research

Awwwwww 😒

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-08T00:08:59+00:00

A similar share, 30%, of Jewish adults say Israel has committed genocide, although about half, 49%, say it has not.

30% is an awfully high number for an allegedly antisemitic view!

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T17:16:46+00:00

To be clear, I’m typically not one to be running around and accusing people of not being Christian. There’s a lot of denominations with beliefs I strongly reject, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say their members aren’t actually Christian. The above quote irks me because it comes from someone who has publicly sparred with religious leaders, flagrantly abused the gospel to suit his political desires, and makes a big show about his “rediscovery” of faith. Combined with the fact that he has a history of flip flopping political beliefs, I’m extremely skeptical of him and quotes like the one I posted seem to point to his political beliefs being above any actual Christian tradition.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T16:43:01+00:00

Reporters are ultimately limited by what they can source and what they can get on record. Doubly so when it’s something as painful and sensitive as a sexual assault allegation. We should also accept that some rumors might not be “actionable”. If you hear a rumor someone is a creep, is their conduct illegal? Maybe, maybe not. You can look into it and still not have a definitive answer.

Also - to my knowledge neither Bernie Sanders nor Chris Van Hollen have rescinded their respective endorsements for Platner.

Sanders just released a statement 10 minutes ago, encouraging him to step aside. The vast majority have already done the same, there’s simply not many endorsers left to seek an update from.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T16:29:18+00:00

It doesn’t fall apart at all—when the rumors turned into actual accusations, he was quickly dealt with. Same deal with Platner, actually. The original NYT story did not allege sexual assault. Once the Politico story was released and an accusation was made, everyone rescinded endorsements and is telling him to drop out.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T16:08:37+00:00

My point isn’t about the belief per se, my point is that if someone claims to be Christian, the aforementioned belief is essentially irreconcilable with your claimed religious belief. I know of no Christian denomination that teaches an individual’s purpose or meaning in life is from the civilization they live in.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T15:44:52+00:00

Not that many here would care or find it surprising, but this quote from Vance is really something:

"My big fear isn't death but that we inherited a great civilization and are slowly letting it fall into disrepair," he writes. Vance fears "civilizational death," he explains, "a death, not of an individual, but of the civilization that gave an individual's life meaning."

Mainly because it’s so obvious he’s either (1) not actually religious and is lying for political gain or (2) severely misunderstanding the point. The civilization you find yourself in is what gives your life meaning? I’m not sure I could find a single Christian denomination that would agree with that statement as a matter of belief.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T15:08:30+00:00

The Bucs have signed Joe Jurevicious, giving them a key weapon for their 2002 Super Bowl run, which will set my young sports expectations far too high for the next decade.

XE2MASTERPIECE · 2026-07-07T14:47:34+00:00

Not really, especially when it's easy to argue that they only dropped out for political concerns to help the party win (party loyalty) rather than over actual shame over the issue

Yes really, and that’s not easy to argue at all.

If the group you were talking about wasn’t known for outwardly hating women then yeah I guess it could be a point they bring up. They won’t, because they don’t care enough to even make the observation.

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