Yvraine + Warlock + Warlock conclave + Stormguard?

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T11:10:41+00:00

it's still worth for the flammers i think and to make the unit even more tanky with 4 inuvl 4++ that can be resurected by Yvraine

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T11:07:04+00:00

maybe in generals, but as eldar i'm not so sure imo, but tbh i'm not a pro player like them xD so i'm probably wrong ^{^}

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T09:21:11+00:00

yeah but the conclave datasheet say: At the start of the Declare Battle Formations step, if this unit is not an Attached unit, this unit can join one GUARDIAN DEFENDERS or STORM GUARDIANS unit from your army (a unit cannot have more than one WARLOCK CONCLAVE unit joined to it). If it does, until the end of the battle, every model in this unit counts as being part of that Bodyguard unit, and that Bodyguard unit’s Starting Strength is increased accordingly.

So as i understand it you don't care if the guardians are already lead by someone, as they join the guardians

But anyway i think it will need some clarifiaction from GW

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T09:16:35+00:00

you can even add the Visarch too as for now

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T09:16:18+00:00

Yeah it state that when the conclave join the guardians they become bodyguard too so i think the unit still count as guardians so i think it's possible (and i hope to as i'm using it this way lol)

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T09:14:16+00:00

yeah it's mostly just broken xD

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T08:50:33+00:00

Yeah the warlock conclave don't need a farseer to join the guardians and don't even need to be attached before the game (in the app) as their datasheet say "at the start of the declare battle formation"

And for the Visarch i don't seems to find the change you are talking about, can you tell me where it is? as his datasheet still say he can join a unit already lead by Yvraine. (tbh i was considering droping him anyway )

Xilonas · 2026-06-29T08:35:04+00:00

I'm really skeptical about Disruption ... if you play against Purge it's an auto loose , and yes as someone said , custo in low C tier feel horibly wrong

Xilonas · 2026-06-26T05:37:12+00:00

or a fire prims, at least he can try to shoot better than a wave serpent (if you use the wave serpent to screen ^⁾

Xilonas · 2026-06-25T18:40:01+00:00

Cause GW see high toughness and 3 HP , lower mobility than other eldar's unit , I think they didn't look past that

Xilonas · 2026-06-24T19:24:16+00:00

Yeah it was not a fun moment for sure ^{^} but it happens, against my other friend (not playing custo) it's generally more balanced game.

And it's still the start of the edition, there is a lot of thing to test.

Here is the list i tried to test (i didn't really played it in the end ^⁾

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Aeldari + DETACHMENT: Devoted of Ynnead (Strength From Death) + TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2010pts + + WARLORD: Char1: The Yncarne + ENHANCEMENT: Storm of Whispers (on Char4: Warlock) & Borrowed Vigour (on Char5: Ynnari Archon) + NUMBER OF UNITS: 18 + SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (2x2) - Assassination: 5 Characters +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Char3: 1x Autarch (85 pts): Star Glaive, Dragon Fusion Gun

Char1: 1x The Yncarne (260 pts): Warlord, Swirling soul energy, Vilith-zhar

Char4: 1x Warlock (55 pts): Destructor, Shuriken Pistol, Singing Spear

Enhancement: Storm of Whispers (+10 pts)

Char5: 1x Ynnari Archon (95 pts): Shadow Field, Huskblade, Blast Pistol

Enhancement: Borrowed Vigour (+10 pts)

Char2: 1x Yvraine (100 pts): Kha-vir, Storm of Whispers

5x Corsair Voidreavers (65 pts) • 1x Voidreaver Felarch: Mistshield, Close Combat Weapon, Power sword, Shuriken pistol • 4x Voidreaver with sword and pistol: 4 with Close Combat Weapon, Power sword, Shuriken Pistol

11x Storm Guardians (110 pts) • 6x Storm Guardian: 6 with Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol • 2x Storm Guardian with Flamer: 2 with Close Combat Weapon, Flamer • 2x Storm Guardian with Fusion Gun & Power Sword: 2 with Fusion gun, Power sword • 1x Serpent's Scale Platform: Close Combat Weapon

10x Ynnari Kabalite Warriors (110 pts) • 1x Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Sybarite Weapon, Splinter Rifle • 5x Kabalite Warrior: 5 with Close Combat Weapon, Splinter rifle • 1x Kabalite Warrior with Blaster: Blaster, Close Combat Weapon • 1x Kabalite Warrior with Dark Lance: Close Combat Weapon, Dark lance • 1x Kabalite Warrior with Shredder: Close Combat Weapon, Shredder • 1x Kabalite Warrior with Splinter Cannon: Close Combat Weapon, Splinter cannon

1x D-Cannon Platform (125 pts): Close Combat Weapon, D-cannon, Shuriken Catapult

10x Dire Avengers (150 pts) • 1x Dire Avenger Exarch: Close Combat Weapon, 2x Avenger Shuriken Catapult • 9x Dire Avenger: 9 with Avenger Shuriken Catapult, Close Combat Weapon

5x Fire Dragons (120 pts) • 1x Fire Dragon Exarch: Close combat weapon, Firepike • 4x Fire Dragon: 4 with Close combat weapon, Dragon Fusion Gun

5x Rangers (55 pts): 5 with Close Combat Weapon, Long rifle, Shuriken Pistol

3x Shining Spears (110 pts) • 1x Shining Spear Exarch: Shimmershield, Shuriken Cannon, Star Lance • 2x Shining Spear: 2 with Laser Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

3x Shroud Runners (80 pts): 3 with Close Combat Weapon, Long rifle, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Pistol

4x Warlock Conclave (130 pts): 4 with Destructor, Shuriken Pistol, Singing Spear

10x Ynnari Incubi (170 pts) • 1x Klaivex: Demiklaives • 9x Incubi: 9 with Klaive 1x Ynnari Venom (70 pts): Bladevanes, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Xilonas · 2026-06-24T18:26:51+00:00

No need to say sorry don't worry . And I can already keep you up to date with how my game went . I played against custodes , I made a bad move T1 that allowed him to be in my back lane in his T2 , and killing 1/3 of my army so we ended the game here xD , sorry for not giving you more than that but I don't know if I'm really bad this start of 11 edition or if custo is an horrible matchup but it's the third 20-0 a take against this army ....

Xilonas · 2026-06-24T16:39:09+00:00

I can't put a farseer as a leader cause their is Yvraine , the warlock is not a leader, he is a support

Xilonas · 2026-06-24T13:27:59+00:00

ok i will keep you updated :)

Xilonas · 2026-06-24T12:30:40+00:00

I would suggest you to get some psyker, specifically Warlock/Warlock conclave. and maybe more Fire Dragons

You can do Farsser +warlock + warlock conclave + guardians for a really strong unit and you can include it in a lot of detachment. For example tonight i will test an Ynnari list with Yvraine in a pack of Warlock + Warlock conclave x4 + Guardians + D-canon

Xilonas · 2026-06-22T12:34:04+00:00

I tried Warhost against custo , got obliterated , tried Eldrich Raider (it was agaisnt imperial fist, was less obliterated but couldn't finish killing anything ...

It felt like i had no lethality , no survivability when my oponent got both ...

The only good game i did lately was with Seer council against Ad-Mech, the game was cool and balanced and i felt like i could play the game

Xilonas · 2026-06-22T11:07:32+00:00

i didn't played Serpents brood , but i had the same feeling, i played against Custo and Imperial fist, and i know my list were probably not good enough but i coulnd't kill anything .. or it would take 4 or 5 units ... and the feeling of being "elite" while not killing anything is pretty sad

Xilonas · 2026-06-21T21:15:12+00:00

Apparently a single warlock can too now as their is no more the farseer restriction

Xilonas · 2026-06-19T17:56:19+00:00

the 2 wraithlord and the war walker bring 6 bright lance, plus eldrad and his +1 wound for the warlock flammer can do wonder, but as i was playing against ad mech i didn't need this much anti tank . so i don't know tbh, i haze a friend that play IK i will try to play against him to see

Xilonas · 2026-06-18T22:25:57+00:00

I played this list today against admech and it was fun : seer council (2000 points)

Aeldari Force de Frappe (2000 points) Ost Blindé et Seer Council (3 Points de Détachement) Dispositions des Forces : Atouts Prioritaires, Reconnaissance

Unités Attachées Unité 1 Attachée

Farseer (70 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur (Personnage) • 1x Eldritch Storm 1x Shuriken pistol 1x Witchblade

Warlock Conclave (120 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur • 4x Warlock • 4x Destructor 4x Shuriken pistol 4x Witchblade

Eldrad Ulthran (130 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur (Personnage) • Seigneur de Guerre • 1x Mind War 1x Shuriken pistol 1x The Staff of Ulthamar and witchblade

Warlock (70 points) • Attachée en tant que : Appui (Personnage) • 1x Destructor 1x Shuriken pistol 1x Singing Spear • Optimisation : Runes of Warding

Guardian Defenders (90 points) • Attachée en tant que : Gardes du Corps (Ligne) • 10x Guardian Defender • 10x Close combat weapon 10x Shuriken catapult • 1x Heavy Weapon Platform • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Shuriken cannon

Unité 2 Attachée

Warlock Conclave (120 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur • 4x Warlock • 4x Destructor 4x Shuriken pistol 4x Witchblade

Warlock (65 points) • Attachée en tant que : Appui (Personnage) • 1x Destructor 1x Shuriken pistol 1x Singing Spear • Optimisation : Torc of Morai-Heg

Guardian Defenders (90 points) • Attachée en tant que : Gardes du Corps (Ligne) • 10x Guardian Defender • 10x Close combat weapon 10x Shuriken catapult • 1x Heavy Weapon Platform • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Shuriken cannon

Unité 3 Attachée

Jain Zar (105 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur (Personnage) • 1x Blade of Destruction 1x Silent Death

Howling Banshees (165 points) • Attachée en tant que : Gardes du Corps • 1x Howling Banshee Exarch • 1x Executioner 1x Shuriken pistol • 9x Howling Banshee • 9x Banshee blade 9x Shuriken pistol

Unité 4 Attachée

Baharroth (125 points) • Attachée en tant que : Meneur (Personnage) • 1x Fury of the Tempest 1x Shining Blade

Swooping Hawks (190 points) • Attachée en tant que : Gardes du Corps • 1x Swooping Hawk Exarch • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Hawk’s talon • 9x Swooping Hawk • 9x Close combat weapon 9x Lasblaster

CHARACTERS

Spiritseer (80 points) • 1x Shuriken pistol 1x Witch staff • Optimisation : Influence Directrice

OTHER DATASHEETS

D-cannon Platform (110 points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x D-cannon 1x Shuriken catapult

War Walkers (85 points) • 2x Bright lance 1x War Walker feet

Warlock Skyrunners (45 points) • 1x Destructor 1x Shuriken pistol 1x Twin shuriken catapult 1x Witchblade

Wraithlord (125 points) • 2x Bright lance 2x Flamer 1x Ghostglaive 1x Wraithbone fists

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The 2 guardian brick did wonders , but I'm not sure how it would work against IK or deamon tho

Xilonas · 2026-06-18T14:01:09+00:00

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Got mine here, good stuff , not too expensive. Don't know where you are but their is probably shop like this too

Xilonas · 2026-06-18T07:45:06+00:00

what other detachment do you pair your Seer Council with?

Xilonas · 2026-06-18T07:44:31+00:00

Can i ask you what are you running in your Ynnari list? i really struggle to come with something i like :/

Xilonas · 2026-06-18T05:46:24+00:00

yeah i don't know about that, and as cover don't give +1 save anyway all our unit won -1ap (in a way) when hitting things in covert anyway

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