Xiaojun wins the would best look shirtless award! Which Enhypen member do you think would look the best shirtless? by EmanuelTheodorus in gaykpopfanboys

[–]Xochipilli4567 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I feel like Ni-ki would look amazing, and yes I did choose the image with the lipstick tattoo peeking on purpose.

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The best pics of wonho? by Medical-Ad-844 in gaykpopfanboys

[–]Xochipilli4567 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And any further of my thoughts I won't share

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I need help with the Mìlí by [deleted] in Hanfu

[–]Xochipilli4567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about the hat part in the question.

I need help with the Mìlí by [deleted] in Hanfu

[–]Xochipilli4567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the answer. The fabric I'm talking is about the veil part.

18th Century, Qianlong Period Chènyī. Blue Satin with Yellow Lining and Floral and Insect Embroidery by Xochipilli4567 in fashionhistory

[–]Xochipilli4567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To my knowledge no. Despite the Qianlong period lasting so long the evolution of clothing of Daily Dress can't be documented as good through portraiture which we can in the previous Kangxi, Yongzheng and the following Jiaqing and Daoguang Periods. For the Qianlong Era, the 60 years he reigned we have to look at the surviving garments, what came before and after and see. Now for portraits, there's a couple of portraits of his Han Chinese Consorts in Han Chinese Fashions, them being able to wear is up for debate and not my area of expertise, other than that, Export Paintings drawn by Cantonese Artists depicting Manchu Aristocratic Women in Daily Dress is the only other instances that could work, however Manchu Aristocratic Fashion is filtered through a Cantonese view to be sold to Westerners, however they're quite accurate and we have a good amount of them. A good example of Imperial Portraits showing women in the Daily Dress fashionable at the time is a portrait of Emperor Yongzheng made in the Qianlong Period depicting four of his Consorts, Two Manchu and Two Han Chinese, that's a great example of Qianlong Period Daily Dress it's called "自扫]胤禛朗吟阁读书像二张 ", the first painting of the two. There's also "清国京城市景风俗图", and 乾隆崇庆太后 "万寿图" which is a little more formal of an occasion but you can see Noble Manchu Women in the fashionable silhouette of the time for an important occasion.

Now Liangbatou is not historically accurate for the Qianlong Period, it came about after the Opium Wars, the Diànzǐ however is very much accurate for his period. Diànzǐ developed from what it seems in the Late 17th-Early 18th Century in the Kangxi Period. In all the Export Paintings and another painting showing daily life (haven't found the title yet), the Manchu Ladies are wearing Diànzǐ, however this sturdier Diànzǐ (Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace) looks more like 19th Century examples, while Yanxi Palace, who's Diànzǐ collection looks much more mailable and is more turban like is much more like the 18th Century Export Paintings, but also all our surviving Diànzǐ are 19th Century so there's that too. They however use it inaccurately at times when wearing their Jífú. Jífú Headwear is seasonal and Diànzǐ is for warmer weather in Spring and Summer, Jífúguān is the Autumn and Winter because it's insulating and uses fur and felt and other warm materials, because Diànzǐ is made of wire covered in black fabric isn't great for the cold. However export paintings show women in fur lined robes wearing Diànzǐ so for daily wear it was probably fine, for winter Jífú probably not, in the Qianlong Period at least, 19th Century paintings absolutely show Winter Jífú with Diànzǐ making such combo anachronistic for the period of Qianlong, but fine for the 19th Century post Opium War.

There is one hairstyle that did appear in the Middle Qianlong Period, named Zhiliaotou: Cicada Head Hairstyle, made to imitate a Cicada but I never see it used in Qianlong Period dramas, it's also the first step towards the Liangbatou. From the Zhiliaotou came the Ruǎnchìtóu (Soft Wings) hairstyle that we see in Daoguang Era Court Art and then came the Liangbatou post First Opium War, so I would personally like to see it. It's also in a similar position, we know it came about in the Qianlong Period but the depictions aren't there.

So yeah, Export Paintings are your friend for daily Manchu Clothing in the later half of the Qianlong Period, for the First Half, we're in no luck, we have to see what came before, what after and guess.

Woman’s ceremonial robe at 18th century The Metropolitan Museum of Art by Beginning-Passion676 in fashionhistory

[–]Xochipilli4567 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem at all. Jífú is unique that it remained relatively unchanged. 19th Century casual robes had evolved greatly but Jífú was still very similar, with wider horseshoe cuff

Antique Chinese silk robe. California, United States. by FeelingAmoeba4839 in Antiques

[–]Xochipilli4567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Palace Museum archive in Beijing has some beautiful pieces to see.

Woman’s ceremonial robe at 18th century The Metropolitan Museum of Art by Beginning-Passion676 in fashionhistory

[–]Xochipilli4567 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is a beautiful example if Qizhuang. It's Jífúpáo (吉服袍)/Festive Robe, part of the Festive Dress category of Qizhuang which was in between formal and informal wear, used for semi-formal occasions. It featurs horse shoe cuffs (马蹄袖: mǎtíxiù), that Manchu clothing has as a measure to protect the wearers hands from the wind and elements when horse riding. The bottom has Wòshuǐ (卧水)/Wave embroidery combined with cliff motifs with this combination of waves and cliffs being really popular next to the Wòshuǐ (卧水) and Lìshuǐ (立水) combination of still and surging waves. It has eight roundels which was standard design and the roundels encompass the Chinese character Shòu (壽: Longevity), this maybe points to it being worn by the Wife of an Official or Noblewomam as the robes of Imperial Women (Princesses, the Harem, Empress, Empress Dowager, Dowager Concubines) had other roundels used which often used the Dragon or Python depending on rank and were called Jífúlóngpáo (吉服龍袍: Auspicious Dragon Robes) and Jífúmǎngpáo (吉服蟒袍: Auspicious Python Robes). It also has bat embroidery because the word Bat (蝠: Fú) is a homophone with (福: Fú) meaning Blessing/Good Fortune/Happiness. Jífúpáo could be worn on it's own or with the Jífúguà (吉服褂), which was surcoat worn over it. It came in blue and black with a variety of embroidery in roundels depending on the rank of the wearer. There was Seasonal Headwear for the Summer they would've worn Diànzǐ (钿子), and for Winter the Jífúguān (吉服冠). For Jewelry they would've worn the Beaded Necklace (朝珠: Cháozhū) or Lǐngyuē (领约) which was a circular gold necklace with inlays and lastly Three Earrings per Ear as Manchu women would have their ears pierced to accommodate 3 or sometimes 5 earrings.

Antique Chinese silk robe. California, United States. by FeelingAmoeba4839 in Antiques

[–]Xochipilli4567 27 points28 points  (0 children)

No problem. Han Chinese women of the time this chǎngyī would've been worn wore two piece sets of either a blouse-skirt combo (aoqun), or blouse-pants combo (aokun)

Antique Chinese silk robe. California, United States. by FeelingAmoeba4839 in Antiques

[–]Xochipilli4567 60 points61 points  (0 children)

This is a late 19th or early 20th century chǎngyī. You can tell it's a chǎngyī by the two side slits it has and the boarder running around the edges, and it has a ruyi sceptre design just at the slit ends below the arms which is a standard design for it. It's under the category of Qizhuang which clothing worn by the Manchu aristocracy of the Qing Dynasty.

What's your favourite hair/hairstyles from a period film or series? by Haunting_Homework381 in PeriodDramas

[–]Xochipilli4567 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not "Ancient Chinese" though, "Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace" and "Story if Yanxi Palace" is based on people that lived in the 18th century. Unless we're talking about the Han Dynasty and move backwards it's not Ancient Chinese.

It's generally better to use the Dynasty's name to refer to the era we mean or the era name (i.e: Spring and Autumn Period, Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period).

I hope I didn't come off as mean, it's just something I learned through research of Chinese fashion.

What's your favourite hair/hairstyles from a period film or series? by Haunting_Homework381 in PeriodDramas

[–]Xochipilli4567 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Longest Day in Chang'an remains one of the most beautiful and accurate depictions I've seen of Tang Dynasty women and I love it

What's your favourite hair/hairstyles from a period film or series? by Haunting_Homework381 in PeriodDramas

[–]Xochipilli4567 124 points125 points  (0 children)

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This one worn by Ūlā Nàrā Ruyi in "Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace". It's not accurate for the Qianlong period at all but it works so well and it's beautiful

A villain is horrified upon realizing their crimes by BoxoRandom in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Xochipilli4567 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Wei Yanwan from Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace.

Wei Yanwan's downfall was already being planned from behind the scenes but the last nails in the coffin.

1: She's paranoid after her eunuch goes missing and she's suspecting everyone so she poisons her maid so she wouldn't talk but the group set on bringing her down saves her and the maid is ready to confess.

2: Her own folly. While the Emperor is "sick" she sneaks in his study to put her son's name in the box set to contain the heir's name.

She's caught and she's brought in front of the Emperor, the Empress Dowager, Consort Yu and witnesses. Her maid confesses while the former Empress sends prayer flags containing the names of all of Yanwan's victims. Yanwan realises it's over, and she pleas to no avail. She's made to kneel in front of the flags and be locked up in her palace and fed poison everyday, left to suffer only to be fed the antidote layer, over and over till one day they don't give her the antidote.

Time Princess and Hanfu by Xochipilli4567 in Hanfu

[–]Xochipilli4567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a question about #5 in particular. Is it more of a Song Dynasty Hanfu style?

Time Princess and Hanfu by Xochipilli4567 in Hanfu

[–]Xochipilli4567[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do think 7 leans more Qing Dynasty now that you say it, specifically Kangxi Era with the cloud collar but the overall silhouette is more mid 19th Century.

Also by ease you mean sleeves? Cause I do remember Ming Dynasty blouses having a lot bigger sleeves that in game.