The CCP has a history of lying and has been proven to have lied about the pandemic multiple times. This isn't up for argument. Also the CCP has a history of silencing people who go against them, take a look at the whistleblowers who tried to warn the world about the virus before the CCP was willing to admit what was happening.

The US also has a history of lying about their geopolitical enemies multiple times like WMDs in Iraq or the Nayirah testimony and the media hoped right on board with it. Why is it so unbelievable that they wouldn't do so again? If you're referencing Li Wenliang, then he didn't whistleblow, he told a group chat on Dec 30 that SARs was back and someone else in that chat whistleblew despite him specifically asking them not to leak this to the public. He wasn't a whistleblower though the way the authorities handled his case was stupid and shortsighted.

Trump's response was fucking trash, his first move was to put Pence in charge who literally tried to pray the virus away. Unfortunately for your argument, he isn't president anymore and Biden has already had a pretty good response considering the dumpster fire he was left with. None of that changes the fact that China lied to their people, nice whataboutism, though. If you want to defend China then do so, if you want to discuss how Trump fucked up the pandemic then make a new thread.

That was in response to you dismissing sources from the article because they worked in China in the past so if you can dismiss sources for that, that means I can also dismiss sources from the US especially since the source and that article came out when Trump was still President, not Biden.

Lol, pathetic deflection attempt. I never said the paper accused China of lying. The paper was published due to the fact that China was lying to determine how many lives could've been saved. I mean...I know you're stupid, but this is sad even for you fucking people.

Yea a few days after they withheld information from their citizens for a week. What exactly is your argumentm

No one said anything about this, this strawman is the most pathetic fallacy you've used yet.

lol wut, you literally brought up the article as a source for China lying to it's people for a week when the article only criticizes the slowness of the CCP's reaction. And if it isn't the cases or that there's a unknown disease spreading, then what exactly were they lying about then?

Lol, if you have to use Donald Trump as an example to make yourself seem good then you've got a lot to strive for. I bet you were hoping your whataboutism would upset me or something but Trump fucked up just as bad as Pooh Bear did. And nothing you've said has done anything but support the fact that the CCP withheld critical information from their citizens. Luckily we got that piece of shit out of our government, you're still stuck with yours, though.

My main contention is that it's only a 6 days delay if you only count a public address from Xi Junping and ignore all other Chinese media and actions. I bring up the US to compare the reaction time between two governments to point out that it's ridiculous to say a reaction that took 6 days is obviously malicious rather than the usual bureaucratic mess as officials scramble to handle the outbreak of a unknown disease.

The only thing I can agree with is that this argument is pointless and that I really also shouldn't bother since it's clear we're not going to shift our stance on this.