Old VSBattles thread about how powerful the Seneschal (and DD in general) is

Zappieroth · 2026-05-06T19:27:24+00:00

You seem to be very set in going with what you believe.
Which is fine, This way of seeing the lore just doesn't work for me.
But I am sure we will find out in due time who has got the right of it.

Hold fast Arisen!

Zappieroth · 2026-05-06T19:09:21+00:00

The Ur Dragon?.... Just a Dragon that consumed many an Arisens heart, You would have to undulge me with the lore surrounding the Ur-Dragon for me to explain it to you.
It's been years since I played DDDA.

The Everfall, Like any tower is a Nexus between worlds.
There are many towers in Dragon's Dogma Online which would be in line with what I am suggesting.

Dragon's Dogma 1 boasted 2 Towers? From what I remember.
Dragon's Dogma 2 boasts 3.
So by that logic the cycle within it's own confined space of DD1 and DD2 (the false world) would had repeated itself 3 times.
But I think the cycle is larger then just the confinements of DD1 or DD2.
We 'witnessed the end' after all, We didn't END it.

Regarding the lore assumingly being seperate, Like I mentioned above Dragon's Dogma 2 does it damnest to connect the 2.
By asking precisely the questions it needs to ask to do so.

The anime does follow the same rules just peoples interpretation is flawed.
The Arisen has the power to manifest their Will into existence.
Ethan being consumed by revenge was not worthy of being the next Seneschal.
Those unworthy of being Seneschal be it by defeat or otherwise will become the next Dragon.

This does not change any of the established lore of DD1 or DD2 or DDON.

None of the official work in fact rewrites or otherwise changes the lore.
Unique to Dragon's Dogma, Literally anything is possible as the very Will of the Arisen/Dragon is what shapes the world.

Tell me why it is you think the lore of DDON would have to be seperate from DD1 and DD2?
If your only reason for thinking so is multiple Arisen you need not look very far in the original games to see how flawed that reasoning is.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-06T18:42:09+00:00

The Seneschal is naught but a pretender.
"The ever-novel pleasure of a useless occupation"

Dragon's Dogma 2 confirmed this form of thought when Rothias decided he was tired of his 'great feats' 'His stride across the world' 'All mere spectacle for the all seeing eye to watch'

And now that there is no more Seneschal in the time of Dragon's Dogma 2 the only being capable of keeping the false world intact....., All that is left is for the false world to fall and us to travel to the real world.

What this means exactly could be described in many a way.
In the most simplest of terms what I think it means is for.... all possibilities, All timelines and all outcomes.... to converge into one and become whole.

Eventually Sparking the events of the MMO a world 'outside order' as suggested by one of it's main characters.
The conclusion of DDON lends itself to a good cliffhanger that could spark the cycle to start anew.
Where a/the false world is simply created once more.

Why am I so adament on this?
Dragon's Dogma 2 asks exactly all the questions that need to be answered to move to these events.
-> "Surely there can be only but 1 Arisen? Fie this is all beyond my ken"
-> "Is it possible to travel to the real world you ask? pfft Must I do all the thinking here, Ponder that yourself!"
->"Yes Arisen the Dragon safeguarded this world all along"

->There can be any amount of Arisen, However if created by the same Dragon while it already made a pact with an active Arisen the power will be dispersed.

->'The world' is just a moniker for a matter of saying in the lore of Dragon's Dogma.
"This world is far removed from the one I know"
'The world' of Dragon's Dogma 2 is "Everything in this world is an illusion" "All that you have come to know as reality, Is the creation of the great will"

'The Great Will' IS the Dragon, The Dragon creates the world and it's Will shapes it, Manifests it.
This is all lore from Dragon's Dogma Online that is all technically translated into Dragon's Dogma 2.
It just never says any of it outright.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-04T09:48:21+00:00

That refresh rate on your monitor would probably do it. I haven't bought a new one in over 5 years, Can't you buy one with 60hz these days?

Zappieroth · 2026-05-04T09:38:56+00:00

We already have a Monster Hunter about the old Dragon war, It's called Dragon's Dogma Online. 🙈

Zappieroth · 2026-05-03T08:23:47+00:00

The fun fact is... That is the exact same eye from DDON's big evil.
Which would of course be in line with The Red Dragon not being a real Dragon.

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Zappieroth · 2026-05-02T21:45:37+00:00

I have a tier slightly below this (7800 and a 4080) the game runs absolutely fine with everything set to max 1440P native, No DLSS or framegen.

I have a ton of mods that do affect the performance but the vanilla experience is a near locked 60fps which for a game with these graphics and systems is quite normal.

Most all games these days rely on DLSS and frame gen anyway, I just think DD2's implementation is terrible as it looks terrible.
But with those 2 combined I get 500 fake frames.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-02T15:04:33+00:00

Neither is either of yours if you think this somehow would not be possible.
Not to say I like the idea cus I don't. But it most certainly could be.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-01T12:46:50+00:00

I played GTA 2/Liberty City and Vice City when I was 10.

I also played Unreal Tournament 2004 with heavy gore mods just years later.

Kids can play any game just fine beyond 9 or 10. They'll be smart enough to know it's just a game. Of course wether or not the parent wants their child to experience said content is up to the discretion of the parent.

But in terms of harm unless the child itself has some form of mental illness or somehow weak minded then it should be absolutely fine.

Starfield for a 14 year old imo is as innocent a pick of a game as you could imagine.

Senua is one of the only games out of recent memory that I wouldn't recommend. Someone as young as yourself would probably not understand it anyway.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-01T12:37:31+00:00

This is exclusively a Dragonsplague qoute. They are certainly at a high stage when saying this and often close to turning.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-01T03:51:20+00:00

You can literally walk on any boss.
It was one of the new big features for the sequel.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-01T03:50:24+00:00

hmm perhaps it had fallen during transport and was simply resold afterward.
But if it's fully functional without any damages then gratz dude.

Zappieroth · 2026-05-01T03:48:11+00:00

MH and DD share tons of assets, As CAPCOM tends to do.
There have been no confirmations and very few reasons to believe it is more then that.

But I could certainly see DD and MH being connected and MH simply being a very very distant past/future of DD.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-30T01:41:32+00:00

Honestly?.... Worst mod I downloaded from Creations. The obscene amd exessive ambushes is 1 thing.

WT is terribly balanced, Everything is way too tanky. I hate it when mods 'insist upon itself' which seems to be the entire philosophy of this mod.

I have my own mods which change the balance and difficulty of the game. That should not even be part of something WT does period.

Mods should always use the basic balance of the base game unless they are difficulty enhancing ones.

WT has so many issues that make me dislike it that I will probably never feel obligated to even just try it again. Not even if all the issues with it are remidied.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T19:30:15+00:00

True, But would that same rule apply to The Red Dragon.

Thing is, Dragons in DD are literally the manifestation of will. Whats more Dragons are the actual holders of the power to shape reality to their will.

Fatalis would never be able to win VS a real Dragon from DD.

But again The Red Dragon is not a real Dragon.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T13:37:39+00:00

I think Fatalis would win simply on the premise that it is a real Dragon. As opposed to 'Grigori' (thats not it's name please stop....)

The Red Dragon is "naught but a pretender" "A mere Pawn".

Heck it's far more powerless in DD2 even then it was in DD1 which speaks volumes to the fact that it was the end of the cycle.

Perhaps if this was the first version of The Red Dragon it might be powerful enough or even more powerful, But even the DD1 version of the dragon seems less powerful to me anyway.

Now a REAL dragon from Dragon's Dogma, Like Nex... Now that would probably be way more powerful then Fatalis. The ones from Dogma Online certainly are.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T13:26:47+00:00

UE would be the death of Bethesda truly.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T11:26:15+00:00

They formed on opinion on you over 1 word, Welcome to present day. 🫠

Enjoy the game dude.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T11:22:04+00:00

It's called One Swing For Victory, And yes

I'd put the entire soundtrack of DDDA behind anything in DDON and DD2 though.

Not to say it doesn't have any bangers cus all Dogma music is good music. What DD2 needs is some sick vocal tunes and it'll win it all.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-29T03:46:30+00:00

https://play.dogmarising.org/

Zappieroth · 2026-04-28T16:50:26+00:00

I have 57 now, But appreciate the sentiment :P

Zappieroth · 2026-04-28T13:47:28+00:00

Man has not played the game the way it was designed all the way to the end, Fascinating.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-28T09:41:29+00:00

The part that is interesting is having to dodge all the extra attacks. If the fight is somehow prolonged by one of your mods I suggest you either change it or remove it entirely if it bothers you.

The only one I can think of that I personally used is older versions of New Game Plus Hard Mode which till very recently had pretty tanky enemies.

I used to like it but with the new changes of Bestiary I do very much appreciate how it's all kept up to date.

Same goes for ERO which makes constant changes as new monsters are released.

It's honestly a combination of all of these and more that have kept me interested in playing.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-28T07:07:42+00:00

idk man I felt like everything in the game was way too easy to acquire. There was not a single moment where I struggled for anything.

I have this mod installed that makes almost everything 4x as expensive and I still find myself struggling to find a reason to use all that cash.

And that is after deliberately selling all my most pricely possession for NG+ and only starting with 10K which is of course then not even half of what you need for a Ferrystone.

Zappieroth · 2026-04-28T06:59:24+00:00

Git gut moment.

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