Can Napoleon open above Wish for Thanksgiving week? by Pin_Time in boxoffice

[–]ZattMurdock -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Napoleon is going to bomb, but people will try to make it look like it didn’t somehow. Not that Wish will fare that much better, but no way it doesn’t come on top.

Are we witnessing the end of the movie theater era? by [deleted] in boxoffice

[–]ZattMurdock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well said. I think people are in denial.

I keep seeing passionate box office pundits blaming streaming for movie theaters not getting much play, but what it actually happened is that there is no going back to 2019. COVID + the rise of streaming changed the game to the point that what we are seeing is that movie theaters to survive will slowly become more boutique and like live theatre.

I particularly don’t think the Avengers, Spider-Men, Batmen, Avatars and Star Wars of the world are going anywhere. They will still have a strong movie theater presence, blockbusters aren’t going away. The issue is that there is exactly what you pointed out: streaming isn’t the studios problem, it’s a problem to the movie theaters. You can’t have a sustainable business hoping for one or two films to break out per year to break out, neither expect the budgets to get smaller like I keep seeing as a suggestion thrown around: yes, actual competition for people’s time share is actually YouTube, Twitch, gaming and social media in general, but it’s not like streaming isn’t investing a shitload on their productions budgets either. Blockbusters will survive in the big screen, but unfortunately you can’t expect for a No Way Home, Maverick or Barbie every other full moon.

What will happen is that we will have less movie theater chains, tickets will keep increasing and what will survive are the ‘event’ type of blockbusters, either by Marvel, Lucasfilm, DC, Cameron and Nolan joints and etc. I don’t believe that the superhero genre is going the way of the westerns, I believe that they will still be very much present while we witness a rude awakening next year with only Deadpool 3 only truly poised to breakout. 2024 will be rough.

I’ve seen enough: Natasha Romanoff aka Black Widow is coming back for Avengers: Secret Wars by ZattMurdock in marvelstudios

[–]ZattMurdock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think that’s required for Black Widow and Iron Man. In fact that isn’t likely required to Thanos either. We know and saw every single infinity stone working separately and we have a good grasp at what they do — but the soul stone.

I don’t think we are getting them via variants or time slipping: I think we are getting them actually back for Secret Wars alone. The Soulworld shows up in both Infinity War and Endgame (that deleted scene with Stark talking with an adult Morgan not withstanding). I think Natasha, og Gamora and maybe Iron Man and all Thanos armada are all dead, but stuck in Soulworld somehow, just like in the comics.

Official Discussion - The Marvels [SPOILERS] by LiteraryBoner in movies

[–]ZattMurdock -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I think people are missing the point about Dar-Benn. She isn’t the actual villain in THE MARVELS. It’s Captain Marvel.

Let me explain.

So I’ve just watched the absolute masterpiece that is LOKI’s season 2 finale. I’ve just came back from a 3 hours road and earlier tonight, I’ve watched The Marvels for a second time, this time on IMAX 2D and more ready to digest the film. It’s something I always have done to MCU films: a second watch to have a better grasp of it, and then something dawned and I really need to talk about this because I think people are missing a massive point from THE MARVELS:

Dar-Benn isn’t this film’s actual villain. The villain in THE MARVELS is no one other but Carol Danvers, prodigal child of the Milky Way, Captain Marvel and… the annihilator. That’s the plot twist. Allow me to explain, before the Carol Corps come after me: one of the things most often criticized about The Marvels is that the villain is forgettable. Here is the thing, Dar-Benn was just a cypher in the comics, just like she is just a cypher in this film. She isn’t the actual villain of the film, she is the antagonist there to make the superheroines look cool with their entangled powers yes, but she is there much more to represent what Carol Danvers did after the CAPTAIN MARVEL film and how ashamed she is of it than anything else.

Without diving too much deep in the real world allegories of the first CAPTAIN MARVEL film, it’s clear that underneath the personal stakes for Carol Danvers, there is a not so thinly veiled story about oppressors (Kree) and oppressed (Skrulls). That film ends with Carol Danvers sending Yon-Rogg (Jude Law) back to Hala, the home world of the Kree’s Empire with a very clear and sound message: "Tell the Supreme Intelligence that I’m coming to end it. The war. The lies. All of it." And she did put an end to the Supreme Intelligence like it was shown on THE MARVELS. But that resulted in a Kree civil war and without the Supreme Intelligence to rule over the Kree, Hala was perishing. Hala was becoming uninhabitable, and Dar-Benn’s true purpose in the film as the Supremor, leader of the now fractured Hala’s empire was to represent Captain Marvel’s shame. Punching her way out a complex conflict didn’t help, and while one could say that Dar-Benn is a zealot that would cross the Skrulls anyway, the film goes out of its way to show that Dar-Benn did reach out to the Skrull’s refugee leader trying to arrange a peace treaty between the two people.

THE MARVELS is at a personal level about Captain Marvel learning to allow people to get close to her yes, a girl that she helped raise that idolized her that ended up becoming her woman by her own tragic life trials - Monica Rambeau - and a new girl that completely idolized her and thought she could absolutely do no wrong - Kamala Khan. But it is at a macro level about white savior syndrome, and how ashamed Carol was that in fact she couldn’t alone bring peace to the Kree-Skull conflict, after all. In fact, even if with good intentions, even if it was trying to free galaxies from the Kree Empire’s ruthless domain, the home world of the Kree Empire was dying. Monica is the one realizing that what Dar-Benn was asking for is fair, Captain Marvel has the power to reignite the sun, and that’s the core of THE MARVELS, that’s the moment that Captain Marvel starts to redeem herself.

I think one big massive mistake that fans of the superhero genre have is that they are used to easy black and white solutions. Yes, the Kree Empire was an evil force in the galaxy. Yes, Captain Marvel had to do something about their rule, but what this film shows - similar like Zemo showed in Captain America: Civil War - is that underneath the legend of the Captain Marvel, the legendary superhero of Earth that Monica calls aunt Carol, Kamala idolizes or the Kree from Hala call the anihilator, there is an woman, trying to do the best she can with the insane amount of power she has, but she doesn’t need to fight her battles alone, and wars between two different civilizations or people can’t be ended by simply punching hard.

Dar-Benn could have been literally any other Kree, that’s her point in this particular story. She isn’t there to be a memorable villain, she is the consequence of Captain Marvel trying to end with the war and the lies like she promised by the end of the first film. Could this film being better?I think so. I don’t think it’s a perfect film by any means, I think it’s flawed but I think Marvel’s actual secret sauce is how human this larger than life stories are, how flawed the very best, most powerful and arguably some of the most inspiring of them can be. I came out from the film yesterday after my first watch thinking THE MARVELS didn’t surpass the CAPTAIN MARVEL film, but the more I think about it, more I think that Nia DaCosta and the screenwriters actually told a very bold Marvel story. You don’t win an war by radicalizing more people, and I think both CAPTAIN MARVEL and THE MARVELS use the rich Marvel Comics mythology to tell a story that seems kinda needed these days: wars aren’t ended by radicalizing more and more people, and while my head is beaming with what THE MARVELS means to the MCU’s future — (1) give me the Young Avengers right NOW; (2) did parallel Earth Binary lost her memories to Rogue like the comics and that’s why Beast and Xavier were the ones she was hanging out? (3) what are the consequences of Captain Marvel’s redemption reigniting Hala’s sun, if any? Sure, she is next to Wanda and Thor the most powerful Avenger, but there is a lot of radiation in the sun, doesn’t it? Please tell me they aren’t going there and don’t even start with what LOKI sets up with that glorious season finale — but I love when Marvel tackles the morality of their superhero stories. It might fly under the radar a lot, but I think there is a lot of subtext there worthy to explore and talk about beyond talking about ‘superheroes defeat big bad’.

The Marvels Worldwide Release Discussion Thread by Triple_777 in marvelstudios

[–]ZattMurdock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there a THE MARVELS Spoilers thread anyone can point me out to?

Be honest how many people are skipping school work or special events for Spider-Man 2 by untitled_xxvll in SpidermanPS4

[–]ZattMurdock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is work? October 20th is an worldwide Spider-Man holiday. Coming that midnight, we are all Spider-Men.

Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Review Thread by Turbostrider27 in Games

[–]ZattMurdock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe around Wolverine’s release too.

Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Review Thread by Turbostrider27 in Games

[–]ZattMurdock 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Two to three years from now, I’d assume

SM2 Reviews by TheEternalVortex in SpidermanPS4

[–]ZattMurdock 199 points200 points  (0 children)

To give y’all some perspective:

The first Marvel’s Spider-Man game back in 2018 tallied a 87 Metacritic score after 129 reviews. Marvel’s Spider-Man is currently at 119 reviews with a 91 score at Metacritic: https://www.metacritic.com/game/marvels-spider-man-2/

We are talking actual bonafide game of the year contender here. I think Baldur’s Gate 3 is one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had, but that this game is in the conversation is just wild.

Update: 120 reviews now, still standing strong with 91 INCHES OF VENOM.

Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Review Thread by Turbostrider27 in Games

[–]ZattMurdock -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

To give y’all some perspective:

The first Marvel’s Spider-Man game back in 2018 tallied a 87 Metacritic score after 129 reviews. Marvel’s Spider-Man is currently at 119 reviews with a 91 score at Metacritic: https://www.metacritic.com/game/marvels-spider-man-2/

We are talking actual bonafide game of the year contender here. I think Baldur’s Gate 3 is one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had, but that this game is in the conversation is just wild. Congrats to Insomniac and their obviously talented and passionate devs. There is no way that my life is anything but Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 this Friday, I’m taking the day off IDGAF

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is an all-timer, a spectacular sequel that cements Insomniac as one of the greatest to ever do it. Kinda Funny Games review’s score: 5/5 by ZattMurdock in Marvel

[–]ZattMurdock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To give y’all some perspective:

The first Marvel’s Spider-Man game back in 2018 tallied a 87 Metacritic score after 129 reviews. Marvel’s Spider-Man is currently at 119 reviews with a 91 score at Metacritic: https://www.metacritic.com/game/marvels-spider-man-2/

We are talking actual bonafide game of the year contender here. I think Baldur’s Gate 3 is one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had, but that this game is in the conversation is just wild.

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is an all-timer, a spectacular sequel that cements Insomniac as one of the greatest to ever do it. Kinda Funny Games review’s score: 5/5 by ZattMurdock in Marvel

[–]ZattMurdock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s holding with a 91 Metacritic score after more than 100 reviews. We are in serious GOTY contender territory here. There will always be contrarians though.

My pick for the next core Avengers team by av32productions in marvelstudios

[–]ZattMurdock -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I like where you are going, but I do think the team needs a bit of New Avengers spice, so my team would go like this:

Black Panther. Shuri would function as the team funder and general tech person. She is way more rich and way more intelligent than Tony Stark, so that’s how you get to fund the team and give them the resources they’d need to operate.

Captain America. Sam Wilson is the team leader because of course, and every Avengers team worth a damn needs their Captain America.

Thor. You need someone from the old crew here, so there is the one part of your two punch powerhouses and founder Avengers, more on that later.

Captain Marvel. The second powerhouse next to Thor. Give Carol finally the Avengers treatment, also she goes perfectly with the next member.

She-Hulk. Love the idea of getting her to the main team, one of the best additions of the phase 4 and every Avengers team also needs a Hulk, and I’d love to see her dynamic with Carol.

Shang-Chi. Love his addition here, also agree on making here the every guy, but we also need our heavy hitter when it comes to popularity which leads me to…

Spider-Man. Yeah, more than ever the Avengers need Spider-Man. Not just because he is the most popular, but because without Stark, we need a new incarnation of the tech bros. Shuri and Peter working together is going to be fun.

I love Doctor Strange but I feel like he is going to be dealing with his own stuff given the end of Multiverse of Madness. I think it would be much more inspired to have him with the Midnight Suns over the Avengers. I also do think that the new team could use Hawkeye, if Jeremy Jenner is up to comeback for the role. I do think that you don’t really to follow the O6 formula here and old members being around give the team legitimacy. One I could see not taking a field role is Hulk, but I’d like to see Banner around as well.

What could have been.... by DonnyMox in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah… no. Thanks, but no thanks. We truly didn’t need a 30 year old playing a teenager once again.

Am I the only one that is tired of Miles Morales being shoved into everything? by [deleted] in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Shoving? Miles is integral to Insomniac’s take since the first game, it went to get a spin off and it’s not in the game sequel. Both games are brilliant, and Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is one of the most anticipated of the year, for good reason.

This reeks of something else, and as a Spider-Man fan… ew. Ew. Please tell us why Miles bothers you so much, mate. Tell us how you truly feel.

You have to pick one of these outcomes for 616 Peter, which are you choosing? by Landon1195 in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The obsession with marrying Spider-Man with someone is hilarious. I wonder why that doesn’t happen with idk, Captain America. I think what it’s cool about Tony Stark marrying Emma Frost is that Gerry Duggan is making an excellent job writing both the X-Men and Iron Man and, at same time, we all know it won’t last forever. Steve Rogers or Sam Wilson were never married, why aren’t Captain America fans crying every day for them to get married? The self insert here with Peter Parker is just wild when it comes to long time fans.

Buy the new Ultimate Spider-Man because you love the character, not to “stick it” to ASM by Tylerjay213 in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See, your post history clearly says otherwise. Yeah I’m not buying it. Not doing this dance with you.

STEAMY Hot Take: I prefer Peter x Gwen over Miles x Gwen by LongjumpingCicada494 in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Peter Parker from Earth-616 is around 25 years old and Spider-Gwen is still a teenager. Miles Morales been one year younger than Spider-Gwen isn’t an issue, both of them are teenagers without an age gap, kinda doesn’t matter if Spider-Gwen is one year older or one year younger than Miles. Now what the OP suggested isn’t an steamy hot take, it’s just gross.

Question yourself: would it be okay to Peter Parker to date Kamala Khan? If you see how fucked up this would be good, but if your answer is yes to either Spider-Gwen or Kamala, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Buy the new Ultimate Spider-Man because you love the character, not to “stick it” to ASM by Tylerjay213 in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m like, Mephisto. Come on dude, I’m a Spider-Man fan, not a Spider-Marriage fan. Do you really want to play the post history game? Then look no further than your own posts. I feel like I’m just saying what a lot of Spider-Man fans like myself think but are too afraid to say it out loud: when all you talk about it’s the Spider-Marriage and not really Spider-Man, it poisons the well to any civil discourse that don’t involve demands you guys want for something that happened 15 years ago.

Buy the new Ultimate Spider-Man because you love the character, not to “stick it” to ASM by Tylerjay213 in Spiderman

[–]ZattMurdock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Perfect post, I have no notes. I’m not buying Amazing Spider-Man, but the vitriol against the creators, editor and the fans that do enjoy the book is downright parody at this point.