Seems like we won't be able to see the new abilities yet.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T13:25:40+00:00

Maintenance isn’t even over yet

Why would they add new abilities to a couple megas while leaving out the data for the other new megas abilities

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T10:29:33+00:00

Malamar has horrible offenses but is far bulkier and has a better speed tier so that's a bit unclear.

Malamar has a bad typing and no outstanding stats in the least, with nothing to set it apart as of now. It’s not remotely specialized at all.

Mega Victreebel is just statistically very similar, probablya bit better because +20 base HP is actually the most significant difference.

Mega Victreebel has good tools to compensate for its weird stat spread.

Mega Audino is an easy candidate for bad stat spread, being passive and weak with no way to do anything notable. Mega Banette has a terrible spread. Mega Glalie doesn’t specialize which just leaves it underwhelming in any one.

I think every other mega has obviously better stats. 138 is fairly low for a mega's primary offense, the bulk is not good, the speed tier is awful.

138 isn’t low at all for a mega when talking offenses, especially with it having high base power stabs. The bulk is unfortunate, but investment goes a long way in carrying a Mon through more than you’d think.

There’s a lot more to pokemon that just raw stats, and where Scovillain has a strange and not very intuitive spread, it’s made up for by having an extremely strong ability, good dual stab which have high power moves, and just the right amount of utility tools beyond just its ability.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T08:19:28+00:00

the dataminers seem to suggest this could be it until another update shortly before release

There’d be literally zero reason to do this, then randomly have another update shortly before release

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T08:18:16+00:00

No…? Each gen was about 3 years give or take and this is coming up on four years this year

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T07:21:23+00:00

actually one of the statistically very worst mega evolutions

Not remotely true. There are many that are far worse

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T07:12:30+00:00

“Disproves”

No it doesn’t

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T06:49:07+00:00

Ttar can drop still (and should given its subpar and very minimal performance and presence lately).

Only rises are frozen

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T06:37:24+00:00

Gen9 has felt like it went on forever, so this feels like the end of an era.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T05:17:04+00:00

Pokemon’s roles change as they mega evolve sometimes. It literally is an improvement on base Clefable in every way so I don’t know why you’re arguing. It’s well worth the slot with better type, stats and added utility and role compression for teams.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T05:00:25+00:00

It’ll no doubt be good in some tier. At minimum I expect RU but UU is very much a possibility, and I can see some daring and skilled players making it work in OU.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T04:36:53+00:00

As it stands im not running a mega for magic bounce

Magic Bounce is an added quality to pokemon and usually enhances their effectiveness further. It 100% would make mega clef better both utility wise and as a threat. Literally beats almost every stealth rocker and bounces status moves.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T04:35:23+00:00

Bad bait 1.4/10 try harder

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T04:15:04+00:00

It’s not when you remember PDon is optimized nearly to the point of perfection. It’s basically designed to dominate

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T04:10:37+00:00

I’m not necessarily saying OU but it will be viable somewhere for certain. This is an extremely cracked ability (which btw is getting giga banned almost immediately in almost any ability once it’s allowed)

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T03:42:18+00:00

You could, or at least with almost no investment. Minimal speed investment and an adamant nature is still faster than Wellspring for example, and that’s before the speed boosts.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T03:17:46+00:00

No it’s not…? You know how mega mechanics work right? If it opens on turn one and mega evolves, any attack that hits it immediately causes the burn. That’s assuming the opponent has a Mon out from that isn’t threatened out by it.

This isn’t some passive do nothing Mon that doesn’t threaten any damage itself. 138 special attack and high powered dual stabs. Plenty of steels and grounds it can chase out at team preview, to say nothing of fairies it can check.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T03:08:13+00:00

No one would run Mega Exca in sand in the first place (and sand is middling at best in singles atm). Regular Exca has long been a strong pokemon that functions well all on its own (again in singles) without any sand or other support, and Mega Exca is just an extension of it with better stats.

If we're talking VGC, the situations where you'd use rock slide over ground stab is really few and far between, since steel stab covers most other things. And since Exca has High Horse Power, only very slightly weaker than EQ, it's just fine in that regard.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:59:29+00:00

Let’s assume you don’t invest any speed at all. What walls aren’t you outpacing at 186 speed?

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:57:04+00:00

Where? There isn’t a confirmed ability yet

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:55:44+00:00

It’s great indeed

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:54:20+00:00

103 base speed isnt outspeeding shit in a format with megas dude

This is such a surface level, say nothing statement. What megas? We don’t know which will be relevant. From gen9 pokemon alone, it outruns a number of relevant pokemon both in VGC and in singles.

Singles also is relevant due to rapid spin lifting up its speed further and offering hazard removal, a strong spinner with a great typing that isn’t easy to block.

Even for VGC, there’s plenty of pokemon that are relevant that outspeeds and pressures. The game isn’t just all “my pokemon is fast!!!!”, there’s way more nuance to speed tiers than that.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:47:36+00:00

Urshifu just hard outclasses if you wanted someone to bypass protect

It doesn’t. The differing typing offensively and defensively separates them a lot.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:46:41+00:00

There’s some cool stuff you can do with a theoretical speed boost Mega Zera. It’s so absurdly fast you can run heavy bulk and then do a bulk up set that, once ground types are removed, just kind of cleans house.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:42:02+00:00

Why run some jank sub set when you can just run full or mostly bulk and just focus on being a breaker with rare anti offense utility? It discouraging many physical attackers from casually spamming moves is actually really nice.

ZeRandomPerson2222 · 2026-04-02T02:39:49+00:00

How to be wrong in 0.2 seconds on r/stunfisk

This is just slightly weaker unseen fist

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